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Discussion in 'Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice' started by jokesonm3, Dec 2, 2015.
My holy trinity of modern CBMs is TDK, Spiderman 2, and Iron Man.
Mine is: BB, TWS, Ironman... Though no one asked. I think Fox and Sony and WB are credited with making people take CBMs seriously and Marvel is credited with making them extremely profitabile.
No, it took 40 cakes.
...and that's terrible.
People....when a spambot makes a spampost.....DO NOT HELP THEM OUT BY QUOTING IT.....WE WANT THEM TO NOT COME HERE, WE DO NOT WANT TO ENCOURAGE THEM.
I'm really blown away by the trailer view count. Not even close to the teaser and comic con trailer at this point. And personally, I don't find myself wanting to go back to watch it again and again like I did with the other ones.
Yeah, but this is the 3rd trailer, so it's natural that it won't have as many views as the first two. Plus, youtube's counter was broken the week the trailer dropped.
There was a problem with YT's view counter for a while.
I probably undervalue BB because of TDK, but it's damn good too. TWS is up there for me too at that notch below with X2.
Even though I don't love all of their movies, what Marvel Studio's done is simply amazing.
The beginning of the trailer looks like a commercial for aftershave or something.
Crazy people: "There he is! Oh my gosh! Have my babies, Mr Wayne! Breeewwws!!!"
Cavill Kent: "Who's THAT?"
Jimmy Beardson: "THAT. Is Brews Vain."
*Affleck steps out of his car with smug look on his face*
"Afterburn. Stings like hell, but it makes women ovulate faster than speeding bullets"
And Lex Luthor again. "Yoohoo, boooys. MMMHH!!!" Strange. Still, I give it a 7/10.
Late answer, but there are e.g. the absolutly random and weird ones.
Troll? That's racist. Can't tell the difference between trolls and ogres
I believe some fans were expecting something a little more deeper than the usual Batman and Supes confrontation. Sure anyone who wants to can figure out the gist or general outline of the film, but I think fans were expecting more than the cliché Batman and Supes get together.
Considering the DCU is selling itself and being more realistic and grittier, some fans are expecting something 'higher" from the DCU. I suspect this film is going to divide a lot of fans.
What do you mean by the "cliché Batman and Superman get together?" And how does them resolving their conflict negatively impact the DCEU in any way?
I think most fans are just wondering why we aren't getting the Clancy Brown Lex Luthor so many love and think would be awesome on screen.
First Doom and now Lex. Is there something about these two characters that won't translate well to the big screen? You would think it would be a no brainer to bring these great villains to the screen. But it seems like they truly are staying away from the popular portrayals of Doom and Lex.
I didn't say it would negatively impact the DECU.
The cliché Bats and Supes encounter is the one where Supes confronts Bats because he's a known vigilante, etc., etc., Bats uses kryptonite, etc.
Bigger enemy shows up, etc., "lets be friends and fight together."
Yes I know a large part of it is canon and all and that's fine. I just think some were expecting more or something deeper. Evenso, you don't have to give away the plot of the film in the trailers. You don't need to be a rocket scientist to figure out the plot after seeing the trailer.
Ultimately, I this film is basically targeted alot more toward the GA and than the fanboys , and the concept, trailer, and marketing of the film, sorta reflects that. CACW and XMA are both films which play more to fan sensibilities and are built on continuity and a shared universe which fanboys like.
BvS is very much more a crowd pleasing, general audience, event film. So yeah, I suspect this film is gonna divide alot of the fans because its a film that's being made more for the general audience than for fans who had issues with MOS or feel that WB is taking the wrong approach towards the DCCU.
Another strange thing from the trailer:
Batman: "it's time you learned what it means to be a man!" Or something. If he says that during their first fight, it's kind of stupid. "Hey, guy I just met...be a real man for a change."
And what if they include the famous line from TDKR: "I want you to remember the one man who beat you"? It wouldn't make any sense.
"Considering the DCU is selling itself and being more realistic and grittier, some fans are expecting something 'higher" from the DCU."
It sounded like you were saying that going the "cliché" route would undermine/contradict the DCU's chosen approach, which is (ostensibly) a bad thing.
As opposed to what? Realistically speaking, how else was it going to play out?
How do you know that the conflict, as written, is shallow?
I agree with you in principle, but frankly, we all knew how the movie was going to end. It was never a secret. I mean, the subtitle of the film is Dawn of Justice.
"man" as in "human". Also he says that in the more robotic sounding voice of the mech batsuit, so we can assume that it will be during their main fight where he has some kryptonite ready for Supes.
Are you serious or just joking? How could you not understand what BM means by that line?
As Lex says, "god versus man..."
I'm serious, it sounds like they've known each other for a long time. Is that line from TDKR? Can't remember.
Yes, you can see it here. As they're duking it out: "-- It's way past time you learned -- what it means -- to be a man."
The context for that line in TDKR is Bruce disdaining Clark as a Dudley Do-Right lapdog of the government. I think in this film it will mean that as well.* But at another level, since Batman's suit is infused with Kryptonite, and Superman is weakened as such, it has the meaning also that Superman is rendered less of a 'god' and made 'mortal' for the fight.
*Snyder has said that Batman will resent Superman for trying to impose limits on him. I think the scene of Superman ripping the doors off the Batmobile takes place BEFORE the party scene. That scene will be Superman having a "friendly chat" with Batman telling him to stop his vigilantism (my theory as to why). And the party is the first time they meet in their alter-egos.