Zack Snyder Directing Justice League - Part 1

[SuperAl]

Well, Charlie's Angels were fun summer movies and with young Cavil, ScarJo, Downey, Shia... I think FlyBy would have been a fun movie similar to Birthright. Also OC's Schwartz was rewriting the script to give it more romance and humour. Miller's JL - honestly I didn't fall in love with Cavill, Eisenberg and Gadot's role was too small to actually rate her. If we had Cotrona, Baruchel and Gale instead it would make no difference in my eyes. And I don't think it was rushed to beat The Avengers - they wanted to start filming in 2008, four years before TA premiere.

wasn't flyby JJ Abram's script. Where he had Lex as a kryptonian and there was a kyptonian heaven and Jor-el brings superman back to life. screw that. Sounds like transformers 2. Also McG was afraid of flying which means most of movie wouldve been shot in a few locations or soundstages.

I cant get over how bad Baruchel wouldve been as a villain, how is that guy any better than Jesse Eisenberg. He literally plays a pothead or a nerd in ever movie. At least Jesse showed how cruel he can be in The social network and has a lot of credibility in the indie scene. I can't think of a single thing Cotrona has done and the only thing i recall Gale doing was showing up in mad max.

 

[Nemeres]

JJ Abrams' first draft of Flyby was a diamond in the rough. Won't get tired of pimping it, ever. It's one of my go-to things whenever I need a Superman fix, and so gloriously juicy at parts. Not that McG or Ratner would've made good by it, but people are gleefully unable to let go of the three, four bad moments it had as a first draft. None of those were as damaging as the butt zit that was the tornado moment in Man of Steel, and after what's been done with Lex and anonymous-dead-person Jimmy in the Snyder films, stuff like a CIA agent Lex and gay Jimmy should feel like a feather scrape in retrospect. Other stuff is bad, but removable.

JL Mortal was less of a gem, but as raw ideas and a blueprint with zero build-up movies before it -- it had enough. Beyond questionable casting or the fact that it would've had to coexist with the TDKT; on its own terms, it had enough to work as a standalone film, and as sth that would've drawn good amounts of fan investment.

The DCEU can still bounce back ten times over, but as it is now, both of the above had a better chance of creating a better scenario than what both Snyder films left in their wake.

 

[bapi]

wasn't flyby JJ Abram's script. Where he had Lex as a kryptonian and there was a kyptonian heaven and Jor-el brings superman back to life. screw that. Sounds like transformers 2. Also McG was afraid of flying which means most of movie wouldve been shot in a few locations or soundstages.

I cant get over how bad Baruchel wouldve been as a villain, how is that guy any better than Jesse Eisenberg. He literally plays a pothead or a nerd in ever movie. At least Jesse showed how cruel he can be in The social network and has a lot of credibility in the indie scene. I can't think of a single thing Cotrona has done and the only thing i recall Gale doing was showing up in mad max.

Lex wasn't kryptonian but yeah there was that 'heaven scene' which had very similar dialogues to those between Jack and his father in Lost finale.

Well, Eisenberg's previous performances are pointless when his Lex is just a caricature.

 

[FeedOnATreeFrog]

One thing I really loved about MOS was the direction on Krypton. Not just the VFX, but the overall direction.

So I really want to see Snyder take a crack at Atlantis, Themysicra, Apokalips, Oa, etc.

 

[ManWithNoName18]

According to new Jeremy Irons interview he seems to confirm the variety rumor about the JL script being simpler than the BVS script. Hopefully Snyder doesn't go all philosophical and try to be like Nolan this time around.

I think the next one will be simpler. The script is certainly a lot smaller, it’s more linear

 

[OutOfBoose]

According to new Jeremy Irons interview he seems to confirm the variety rumor about the JL script being simpler than the BVS script. Hopefully Snyder doesn't go all philosophical and try to be like Nolan this time around.

I think the next one will be simpler. The script is certainly a lot smaller, it’s more linear

If we look at Avengers, it had relatively simple plot too. Complexity came from character interaction and simultaneous action sequences. 7 Samurai plot is also quite straight-forward. Let's hope they turn it into something good.

 

[FunkMiller]

According to new Jeremy Irons interview he seems to confirm the variety rumor about the JL script being simpler than the BVS script. Hopefully Snyder doesn't go all philosophical and try to be like Nolan this time around.

I think the next one will be simpler. The script is certainly a lot smaller, it’s more linear

This would be excellent. Snyder just doesn't have the storytelling chops to do complex, so a simple script would suit his visual style best.

 

[matt47]

If we look at Avengers, it had relatively simple plot too. Complexity came from character interaction and simultaneous action sequences. 7 Samurai plot is also quite straight-forward. Let's hope they turn it into something good.

Which is no doubt the way to go with these ensemble movies. The character interactions should come first before White Portuguese and bullets.

 

[Loki882]

Yeah there's too many characters, and way too much going on, in these big team up films to go with a really "deep" and intricate plot. It'll collapse under it's own weight. And a plot being "simple" or "straightforward" doesn't automatically make it "bad."

People didn't love The Avengers, or Star Wars because of their super-deep and intricate plots (because they didn't have them). People love those films because of the characters that are fun/interesting and how said characters play off of each other.

That, plus cool action, some humor, a bit of character development, etc are the true appeals of these kinds of films.

 

[Lobo]

Is this movie filming yet?

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Yes the movie is filming.

 

[Lobo]

Thank you ISS

 

[ManWithNoName18]

As you may have seen the BVS ultimate cut trailer released. I think the Ultimate cut will fix certain things like more Clark, more explanation for Batman's ruthlessness, more Superman talking to people. And the Ultimate cut may even prove to be a superior version than the theatrical. However when it comes to it, it's that theatrical cut everyone watches and makes the bulk of money. I really hope Snyder doesn't need 3+ hours to tell a proper JL story. And prioritizes what to keep and what to cut.

 

[Mad Love]

It's kinda wild that Snyder is the worst director in the DCEU.

Patty Jenkins, Ben Affleck, James Wan, Rick Famuyiwa... legit

 

[Jaxon]

If we look at Avengers, it had relatively simple plot too. Complexity came from character interaction and simultaneous action sequences. 7 Samurai plot is also quite straight-forward. Let's hope they turn it into something good.

Oh come on brother, there was no complexity in Avengers. It was a linear story without any merging sub plots or character development at all. No characters went through anything, it was as simple a story as could be told. It's a movie that's almost unwatchable now because of its simplicity. Nothing is revealed or understood any more on multiple viewings.

I hope Snyder plays JL exactly like MoS by intertwining scebes that support the main storyline because it enhances the story and makes for discovery on multiple views.

 

[FunkMiller]

Oh come on brother, there was no complexity in Avengers. It was a linear story without any merging sub plots or character development at all. No characters went through anything, it was as simple a story as could be told. It's a movie that's almost unwatchable now because of its simplicity. Nothing is revealed or understood any more on multiple viewings.

I hope Snyder plays JL exactly like MoS by intertwining scebes that support the main storyline because it enhances the story and makes for discovery on multiple views.

Dude. Nobody other than you and a small minority wants to watch a Zack Snyder film multiple times.

 

[OutOfBoose]

Oh come on brother, there was no complexity in Avengers. It was a linear story without any merging sub plots or character development at all. No characters went through anything, it was as simple a story as could be told. It's a movie that's almost unwatchable now because of its simplicity. Nothing is revealed or understood any more on multiple viewings.

I was talking about narrative complexity. There was rich dynamic between characters, editing was flawless and all that compensated primitive plot. And it's a good thing they went with a simple plot, they had plenty of space for character interaction. I'm not a fan of Avengers, it's not my kind of film, but sometimes less is more.

I hope Snyder plays JL exactly like MoS by intertwining scebes that support the main storyline because it enhances the story and makes for discovery on multiple views.

I don't want any specific solution, but I just hope to see something we didn't see in previous films.

Dude. Nobody other than you and a small minority wants to watch a Zack Snyder film multiple times.

Don't downplay people's interest in the film. If nobody cares about the film, except for small minority, UE trailer wouldn't get so many views. Not to mention all those torrented copies. You dislike it - fine. But you project your own opinion on everyone else.

 

[Consona]

After seeing BvS UE I'm sooo freaking glad Snyder is still in charge!!!

 

[Verick808]

Seems to be a much more popular opinion than it was a few days ago. I plan to watch it later today. Even if it only raises it's grade by one point I'll be glad. I want to be able to say it was good instead of okay.

 

[OutOfBoose]

After seeing BvS UE I'm sooo freaking glad Snyder is still in charge!!!

I was glad he was in charge even before UE, but UE reinforced my beliefs, that Snyder is a capable filmmaker.

 

[BMCAABY]

wasn't flyby JJ Abram's script. Where he had Lex as a kryptonian and there was a kyptonian heaven and Jor-el brings superman back to life. screw that. Sounds like transformers 2. Also McG was afraid of flying which means most of movie wouldve been shot in a few locations or soundstages.

I cant get over how bad Baruchel wouldve been as a villain, how is that guy any better than Jesse Eisenberg. He literally plays a pothead or a nerd in ever movie. At least Jesse showed how cruel he can be in The social network and has a lot of credibility in the indie scene. I can't think of a single thing Cotrona has done and the only thing i recall Gale doing was showing up in mad max.

I bet JJ Abram's film would've been received and fared critically much better and ridiculously high as compared to Snyders.. Critics judge the movie. Abrams knows how to make a good movie, whereas Snyder doesn't…
If any other established director had done BvS or MOS with the same ideas, concepts, casting and etc it would've been received much higher. Because they would've made a solid film.. Snyder is inexperienced at that, he is much better than Bale because he actually cares about the characters and franchise , he doesn't just want to make big bucks….

 

[BMCAABY]

I was glad he was in charge even before UE, but UE reinforced my beliefs, that Snyder is a capable filmmaker.

I wonder why they didn't simultaneously release both the directors version and the theatrical pg13 one together.. I mean people would've had the ability to choose which one they wanted to go see. The one that can be watched with children or the one for adults.. It would've been better to see the UE in theatres.

 

[Consona]

I was glad he was in charge even before UE, but UE reinforced my beliefs, that Snyder is a capable filmmaker.

Yea, exactly. I was his supporter before UE but now I'm sooo excited, because UE was so fantastic.

 

[Da-Scribe]

I wonder why they didn't simultaneously release both the directors version and the theatrical pg13 one together.. I mean people would've had the ability to choose which one they wanted to go see. The one that can be watched with children or the one for adults.. It would've been better to see the UE in theatres.

I don't think any studio ever does that. It still means they'll have less showings.

 

[ManWithNoName18]

I'll be really interested to hear JL's runtime. Plan on seeing the UC sometime this week. Been seeing that the UC is being better received than TC. Even if the UC is better either WB needs to commit to letting Snyder drop a 3 hour movie or Snyder needs to commit to giving WB a movie that will have a pre agreed upon run time for JL.