Far From Home Zendaya IS MJ

Well I see the discussions about Zendaya/MJ haven't changed since Homecoming was released. Lol!

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Thank goodness this trailer puts to rest the "Marvel is backtracking on Michelle/MJ" nonsense.

Word. :cool:
 
I get that Zendaya's MJ is a very different character, but she would have been a great fit for the big personality comic book MJ, moreso than Miss Dunst. So why name her MJ, or make any of the other odd choices? Beats me. I blame Sony, even thought I have zero evidence to support this accusation. Anyhoo, the crew grew on me in the last movie and I'm fully accepting of this alterna-version.
Yeah, that’s the silly thing. Zendaya could be a great fit for MJ. I really want to see that happen but even if it does, what we’ve got so far from the character will still have been a waste of time.
 
As someone who only relatively recently finished high school, Tony's Flash is far more accurate to the bullies I knew in real life than the old "beat you up for your lunch money" cliche.
I know a lot has changed in the decade since I graduated high school. I grew up in a hick town where the bullies were either corn fed cowboys, wealthy, or some combination of the two. I guess I’m just having a hard time figuring out how someone who isn’t physically stronger or more socially influential can be a bully. To connect this back to Spider-Man Homecoming, Flash isn’t physically intimidating and he hangs out with all the same people Peter does. They just seem too close in the social hierarchy to consider Flash a real threat to Peter. Also sorry to derail the Zendaya/MJ thread talking about Flash/Peter.
 
On the topic of Zendaya as MJ, I remember having a meltdown when I realized she was a Disney Channel kid and not at all a red head. Once I saw the movie I really didn’t mind Zendaya, but they needed to just have her be Mary Jane instead of the whole she’s MJ but maybe/maybe not Mary Jane nonsense we’ve been dealing with.
 
Always bizarre to me when everyone was patting this movie on the back for having such a "diverse supporting cast" when the main lead is still a white male Peter Parker instead of say Miles Morales...like Into the Spider-Verse.
 
Always bizarre to me when everyone was patting this movie on the back for having such a "diverse supporting cast" when the main lead is still a white male Peter Parker instead of say Miles Morales...like Into the Spider-Verse.

Demanding a character who’s always been white be arbitrarily changed to Hispanic or black as cheap pandering to meet a diversity quota is just as silly as calling a movie with an ethnically diverse cast set in an ethnically diverse neighborhood “SJW”.

Two sides of the same greasy coin.
 
I'm guessing Miles Morales isn't a chip Marvel/Disney want to cash in until they've earned as many billions as possible from Peter Parker's Spider-Man. Then you'll get the deluge of Spiders including Gwen, Anya, Miguel O'Hara...
 
Spider-Gwen really gets to me. How can she be a Chief of Police's daughter and still be dumb enough to put her civilian name in her "hero name" for lack of a better term? Now Marvel is making a concerted effort to rename her Ghost-Spider. Just WTF?
 
Spider-Gwen really gets to me. How can she be a Chief of Police's daughter and still be dumb enough to put her civilian name in her "hero name" for lack of a better term? Now Marvel is making a concerted effort to rename her Ghost-Spider. Just WTF?
Spider-Gwen is the title of her series, not her superhero name. Her superhero name is Spider-Woman. lol
 
Spider-Gwen is the title of her series, not her superhero name. Her superhero name is Spider-Woman. lol
Lol. That makes way more sense. I obviously only vaguely know the character from the cover of the books and randomly seeing her in commercials for the various animated series'. Her costume is awesome though.
 
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I still think they should just retcon Mary Jane Watson as being her middle and last name respectively. I know that wont happen, but its not like Jones being her last name was ever specified in Homecoming itself.
 
I wonder if the reason why we're getting such a radical deviation from the comic MJ is because of Sony. Maybe they aren't allowing Marvel Studios to use the classic characters as they appeared in the source material.
 
I’ll never understand the decision to switch characters. Was it that hard to make MJ zendaya, make flash Harry and make flash an actual huge jock type? I just can’t get behind the supporting cast. It’s just so much potential wasted on ganke Ned, puny flash, Michelle Jones, Gwen Betty and whoever else they decide to mash up
 
^ Yeah, it is bothering me Betty Brant is looking way too much like Gwen Stacy. You'd think Marvel Studios would be like, "Uh... guys...." but nope....

Anyone think we'll get the Osborns or J. Jonah Jameson in the third film?
 
It looks like they're building towards Osborn in the MCU.
 
One thing I'll say about the TMNT reboot movies, when they announced Eric Sachs was going to be the villain and he might've been a whitewashed version of Oroku Saki, at least the production team went back and filmed in scenes with Oroku Saki to appease angered fans. When it comes to this "MJ", they're just running with it and having fun pissing off us fans with it.

I wouldn't be surprised they reveal "her real parents" and it turns out her real name is Mary Jane Watson because that's how much of a Durrr thing it's been with this character. A character that doesn't look a thing like the character, acts nothing like the real MJ but is walking around calling herself as such.

Again, crossing my fingers she's a Mysterio illusion or a Skrull or they pull a Gwen Stacy and Michelle "MJ" dies. Either one of these could have multiple effects on Peter.
 
Zendaya is talented but I agree what the filmmakers have chosen to do with Flash and Michelle/MJ is just dumb. We will never hear the name Mary Jane. Flash could get his ass kicked by pre-powers Peter. In no way shape or form does he pose any sort of threat. This is one thing the Raimi films did a vastly superior job of
 
It is what it is, I've accepted her as a different version/iteration of "MJ". And I am really looking forward to her and Peter's relationship, and overall dynamic.
 

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