ZOOM! (Possible season 2 spoilers)

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  1. Kirmit Big Green Machine.

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    Now it's been announced Professor Zoom is going to be next seasons big bad what are your thoughts? How are they going to make him different from Reverse Flash? Costume wise he looks pretty much exactly like RF in the comics, do you think they'll mix it up a bit for the show?
     
  2. BeaverJuk Registered

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    Here is my theory on Zoom...
    He is an alternate world version of David singh from the timeline when he was injuried by weather wizard.

    total theory but his story before the time change makes it closer to hunter zolomon and they did mention about alternate worlds being in effect.
     
  3. godisawesome Registered

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    My hope:

    Zoom is a time anomaly from the future via the black hole, more specifically, Wally West's time as the Flash. He is Hunter Zoloman, and his power is control over his own passage forward in time. Whereas Reverse Flash was all about lightly manipulating the timeline for his own selfishness, Zoom wants to "make the Flash" better, in the most horrifying way possible. Part of this is that he wants both Barry and eventually Wally to be willing to change time again and again to save the world. This gives him an exact tie into the series theme of whether or not Barry should have changed his mother's fate.

    My more believable prediction:

    He's a time displaced Eddie, with the powers of Zoloman but a different identity and slightly different motive. Having been sucked into the vortex at the end of season one, Eddie has been transformed into a "Speed Force ghost", or the time displacement thing again. He can't interact directly with his friends, and he experience the passage of time so slowly its driven him a little crazy. He also wants to make the Flash better, but here it's in a far more personal way: he can't be with Iris, so he wants Barry to be worthy of her. So look out Patty.

    The one thing I don't want him to be is just Wells with a new name.
     
  4. mocomic Philistian by choice

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    I know it's unreliable
    But IMDB is showing this

    Teddy Sears who plays Jay Garrick, is also listed as Zoom

    What the hell???
     
  5. Eni Registered

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    A possibilty is that Zoom is a version from Barry that comes from an alternative earth/future, like they wrote it in the comics not too long ago.

    Maybe a long lost twin instead, though? Like Cobalt Blue?
     
  6. universeman Registered

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    I'm hoping its
    just Future Barry no twin I just love the idea of the thing that Barry hates the most said by Eobard in the teaser is none other then himself, the danger Jay warns Barry about is himself, I'm really hoping its just Future Barry. :yay: Also your right about Firestorm but you see I have this problem with FS being on The Flash he's way more powerful than The Speedsters to me The Speedsters are like Jedi, :yay: The Speed Force is like The Force, so to me when I see FS being more powerful then them it feels like what if something else was more powerful than the Jedi/The Force in SW. :csad: I don't mind FS being on LOT but The Flash? sorry but no to me the only thing that should be the most powerful thing in the series should be The Speedsters/Speed Force not Firestorm. :yay:
     
  7. Eni Registered

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    Well, as long as they make a good story out of it, I really have no problem if Zoom is a future Barry. There is a lot of potential in this idea.

    I'm definitely interested to learn what caused this Flash to snap then and turn bonkers, as Barry has been through a lot in his life, people he loved being killed in front of him, being forced apart from his father, bullying, etc. and he always was able to overcome that. So what happened that could twist him like this?

    I agree with you there. I don't think that FS really fits on the Flash and I doubt that he will stay a regular, more like someone Barry will crossover with. The fight between the RF and the Flash, FS and GA was fun to watch but I think they pretty much ruined the dangerous image of Eobard by how easily he was defeated. The Flash, due to his powers, is the most powerful out of every hero currently introduced to the CW, even FS, but I guess you can't really write interesting stories with someone who has no troubles defeating anybody.

    I guess Barry will get stronger with the seasons and maybe later, when he has grown more into his powers, they can pair him up with FS. And I really like your comparison to the Force because it is really fitting :yay: - the Speed Force is in a way like The Force from SW and depending on what interpretation of the comics you go, it is a source for different powers, time, space and even life, and the only ones who can handle them are the Speedsters. So, yeah, FS shouldn't really be able to keep up with them. :cwink:
     
  8. Rorschach2012 Hi Freeze, I’m Batman

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    I hope that they don't drag out Zooms true identity all season long like they did with wells . Wasn't a fan of havig to read all these theories, and was so glad when it was revealed that Wells was Eobard Thawne

    Just make Zoom be Hunter Zolomon or don't even do Zoom at all !

    Also now that Wally is confirmed I hope that Zoom is primarily a Wally villain
     
  9. universeman Registered

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    Well in the comics it was
    Wally's death Barry was too late to save Wally from the car crash he blamed himself for what happened to Wally/Iris she ended up in a wheel chair, :csad: something I noticed in the comics Pre New 52/New 52 Barry is like a Father to Wally in the New 52 Barry wants to give Wally a second chance at life help him along the way, :yay: but when Wally dies Barry loses it where he travels back to make sure Wally doesn't die and along the way kill off his villains :csad: really his main focus is Wally. Something else at the end of the comic arc the city hates The Flash for what Future Flash did, I think it would be interesting since the S2 starts out with the city loving The Flash what if by the end of it they hate him maybe even with Barry in prison, Grant has hinted that how S2 could end with Barry behind the glass. Also to me Barry Allen is the Luke Skywalker of this show. :yay:
    I could be wrong but those streaks do look similar :yay:
     
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  10. The Shape In the shadows

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    Yeah, I could see Zoom being Future Barry or Eddie. Both could work, and I trust the show to do it right. I'm really excited to see what he looks like.
     
  11. Hazexander Registered

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    Yea can't wait to see and know who there gonna make zoom be especially cuz they said he will be terrifying and more menacing than eobard was.
     
  12. universeman Registered

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    Well in a new trailer
    it seems like they changed Barry's streaks to blue. :cwink: :woot:EDIT also it seems his eyes lights up blue, and leaves blue trails of lighting. :yay:
     
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    Isn't Zoom yellow in the comics?
     
  14. universeman Registered

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    Yes but this Zoom looks more like
    the new 52 Future Flash also with Jay being The Flash in earth 2, I got this feeling that Barry from earth 2 is Zoom, I mean there's this theory that Jay/Wally/Jessie is from earth 2 if that is true then what if Barry was The Flash but then turned to the dark side and became Zoom cue Darth Vader music. :yay: I remember reading somewhere that Zoom is more powerful than Jay, Wally, and Eobard. What if the reason why Jay wants to train Barry is because Jay knows the only person who can defeat Zoom is Barry because Barry is Zoom. :yay:
     
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    It was just confirmed by Andrew Kreisberg in a new interview that we'll first meet Zoom on "Earth-2", but I don't think that means the character is going to be Barry, Eddie, or somebody familiar.

    BTW, here's how Kreisberg just described Zoom:
    “We wanted another speedster as a villain, but we wanted to do something slightly different. Reverse Flash felt like a warrior, and what we wanted this time was something more akin to a monster. When you finally see Zoom, he looks like a demon, and it’s really scary. It’s more horrific. You should feel like when one of H.R. Giger’s aliens comes in the room. The mask is really amazing… Like with Wells last year, he has a very specific agenda and a very specific and very clean reason for doing what he’s doing. When we open the season, he’s a villain of Earth-Two, and now he has access to Earth-One. Yet again, our team has created their own nemeses for the season. Watching how Zoom enacts his plan is the plot of the first nine episodes."

    http://screenrant.com/flash-season-2-trailer-preview-new-character-spoilers/
     
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    Some of this description sounds like the Rival, Garrick's old foe who became an actual speed-force possessing ghost.
     
  17. Gu3ree Registered

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    Could someone please tell me more about Zoom? As I'm confused? I remembered looking up the Reverse Flash online before, but he also took the name of Professor Zoom? Anyways, I'm confused. From what I've searched online, this Zoom looks just like Reverse-Flash...
     
  18. KillerMcQueen Mortal-ish

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    Reverse-Flash did also go by the name Professor Zoom, but Zoom is an entirely different character. Zoom (in the comics, the show appears to be doing something entirely different and just using the name) is a former CCPD profiler named Hunter Zolomon, who gets the ability to control the speed at which he moves forward in time in an accident that occurs during an attempt to fix his disabled legs. He was a friend of Wally West's and his battles with Wally (at first) are an insane attempt by him to make Wally a better hero. The show seems to only be using the name Zoom, and not the actual character.
     
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    There are many possibilities for Zoom's true identitie :

    The producers say that this Zoom is from the comic, so it can be :

    1) Hunter Zolomon, the Zoom from the comic, and nemesis of Wally West (who will appear this season)

    another Speedster :

    2) The Rival (because of Jay Garrick)

    3) Daniel West

    4) Eddie is now a reverse Flash from his resurrection in / by the black hole (simple problem, if it explain why we will meet Zoom on earth 2 since Eddie was absorbed by the black hole, it was never in the comic book)

    Zoom produce a blue streak, like the New 52 Barry, so he may be either :

    5) the Future Barry (and we will learn the reason as to why Eobard hates him so much)

    6) a parallel universe Barry (hasn't the producers said that we will meet him on earth 2 ?)

    7) Zoom is not human. the producers said that we will never know if Zoom is alive or not, because the costume seems his skin or something like that. Zoom is not human, but a puppet of someone... It has blue energy... blue energy all around him... What if this Zoom is not a speedster in the first sense, but a puppet of blue energy... Blue flame ! Wasn't Cobalt Blue supposed to be able to create blue object out of his blue flame ? What if Zoom is just a reverse Flash costume animated by Cobalt Blue / Eddie, resurrected by the black hole ?

    To me, each of them is possible. Have you another possible theory ? Because I'm sure that one of the above is the true one.
     
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    I love reading the fan theories :csad:.
    The whole Reverse Flash mystery was my favorite part of Season 1. Of course they could (and should) develop Zoom's story in a different way, but still, I love speculating.
     
  21. DigificWriter Registered

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    There was actually no 'mystery' as far as the Reverse Flash's identity was concerned for more than half the season; instead, there was just a bunch of fans living in denial and refusing to believe information that was freely given/revealed by both producers/writers and actors.
     
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    I'm not a fan of the new 52 at all so I'd rather they stick with the old Hunter Zolomon storyline. It shouldn't be Eddie because that wouldn't make any sense.
     
  23. Xaviesta Registered

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    Isnt teddy sears zoom?
     
  24. ThePreface Registered

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    I like the Earth-2 Barry is Zoom theory. Maybe Earth-2 Iris died and this was the straw that broke the camel's back for Barry. So Zoom throws all his ethics out the window and decides to play time dictator in an effort to bring her back. But he keeps screwing things up and justifying it as a need to save Iris to the detriment of the multiverse.
     
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    He's Jay Garrick (the Flash of Earth-2).
     

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