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Do any of you have any theories/head canons for how the story continued post-Rises?
Do any of you have any theories/head canons for how the story continued post-Rises?
Just saw this post and can say I was in it!
I’m the center guy wearing glasses at the 1:17 mark.
The explosions going off around me was unreal. Also those things hurt! A piece of it got onto my hand and gave me a minor scar for a couple of days lol. They’re hot.
One awesome thing was seeing the details. There were literally writing pads with the logo for the Gotham Stock Exchange. Audiences never saw that, but we did. It was amazing seeing how intricate all of those minor details were.
There was another minor scene I was selected for where me and another guy were walking up the stairs. That scene wasn’t used. Nolan directed us in it which was beyond surreal. Just establishing shot type stock footage.
At the time I had no idea who Glen Powell was. I actually thought he was either a new actor or an extra that was promoted to be an actor in it for that scene since he didn’t have many lines (and that’s sometimes known to happen).
The first time seeing it in Imax I didn’t see myself at all. Second time I realized my face was one of the largest things on the screen since I was almost exact center lol.
If there’s any questions about the set or Nolan I can perhaps try to answer to the best of my ability.
Wow!!! This is so cool!!! How long did it take to film that scene? Did you take one of those notepads? Hahahaha
I'll watch TDK this friday, and Rises next week. Can't miss these re-releases!I’m seeing rises again next week. Is anybody else seeing any of the trilogy being re released ?
Okay, I am so glad for this post (and the others quoted below) because I've wanted to say it for so long - but was afraid of the backlash from The Batman fans and maybe some Mods for bringing the topic up. And keep in mind - I'm a fan of The Batman! I'm 100% embracing the new. I just got my Robert Pattinson Batman Hot Toys figure last week and I couldn't be happier to pose him alongside Bale, Keaton, and West.I think the new crticisms from younglings on the internet towards these films is, to put it bluntly, due to jealousy. There seems to be a section of the fandom that hates how beloved the trilogy still is so they try to find ways to discredit them and it's mainly coming from the Reeves Batman stans.
Absolutely. This is where my frustration comes in - the rewriting of history. It's totally fine to not like a classic film or film series. It's totally cool to critique it and claim it's not as good as the legacy suggests. But I see Batman fans (most of whom prop up the new film) try to act like the films were received lukewarm at best, and that The Dark Knight was only well reviewed because of Heath Ledger. It's disingenuous, deceitful, and untrue.The problem is these people willfully ignore or try to rewrite the reception to Nolans trilogy, and it's incredibly frustrating as someone who was there to experience the zeitgeist of that trilogy.
Truth.I wasn't gonna say anything about Reeves stans today, but....yeah, even before TB came out, there's been a "Loki wants to outdo Thor" vibe coming from some of them.
I'd be way more interested in a comic series that bridges the gap between Knight and Rises. I think that gap is ripe with amazing story potential.You know it's only a matter of time before we get a comic book continuation of the Nolanverse, like the new Batman 89 series. Will be very cool.
I don't think it's insecurity, no one pretends The Batman was the kind of hit the trilogy was and tbh those movies aren't ever going to be. No Batman movie in the future will be either. It's an unreasonable expectation for fans of the movie to have and frankly not a terribly reasonable criticism of the movie either. A lot of what makes the nascent Batman Saga great is what will keep it from ever being a four quadrant billion dollar success - I wouldn't want Reeves to make it faster paced or make Bruce a more accessible/likealbe character, it'd be a lesser project for it.Okay, I am so glad for this post (and the others quoted below) because I've wanted to say it for so long - but was afraid of the backlash from The Batman fans and maybe some Mods for bringing the topic up. And keep in mind - I'm a fan of The Batman! I'm 100% embracing the new. I just got my Robert Pattinson Batman Hot Toys figure last week and I couldn't be happier to pose him alongside Bale, Keaton, and West.
But I've also noticed this incessant need from those that prefer The Batman to really tear down other forms of Batman - especially The Dark Knight Trilogy. I've mentioned - with a lot of ire thrown my way - that the amount of crap Reeves-Batman fans throw at Nolan/Bale and the series just comes off as deep insecurity about the new film.
The amount of defending I've had to do of this series against Reeves' Batman fans is really a bummer. They work overtime trying to discredit them - and often make that their main source of engagement with other fans.
They seem to feel that the new Batman film exists only in the shadow of the Dark Knight Trilogy - that that series being acclaimed still and hold in high regard means that people won't love the new series as much. And that's just not true. It's its own thing and it's great for that reason.
Personally, I think they expected The Batman (2022) to light the world on fire - and to be real, it didn't. It did well - but as a Batman fan, I hated admitting that like within 3 or 4 weeks of the release, it felt like nobody outside of Batman fans were talking about it. It came and went so fast without nearly as much fanfare as I'd hoped. I think that the Reeves Batman 'stans' saw that too - and really feel insecure about the film for that reason and maybe they know it lacked the appeal of the Trilogy.
But I do feel because this older series is so beloved still and was so revolutionary for the genre - they feel like any praise for that series is a point of praise not spent on The Batman. Which triggers their frustration - so they spend a lot of time taking the Trilogy down several pegs, try to rewrite the history of them, paint them as mediocre, etc. Hoping that maybe they'll dethrone it.
Absolutely. This is where my frustration comes in - the rewriting of history. It's totally fine to not like a classic film or film series. It's totally cool to critique it and claim it's not as good as the legacy suggests. But I see Batman fans (most of whom prop up the new film) try to act like the films were received lukewarm at best, and that The Dark Knight was only well reviewed because of Heath Ledger. It's disingenuous, deceitful, and untrue.
I'm not a Star Wars fan - but I've seen it with Star Wars where many are claiming and arguing that there was never any backlash or hate for the Prequels. That's just...patently not true. But they do so to prop up the Prequels as a means to slam the newer films. There's always an angle.
Truth.
I truly do not get that attitude because you're totally correct, here - that has been the energy/vibe I've gotten from them. And I think they'd never admit it - but they might feel that The Batman maybe wasn't as good as this series or received as great by fans/general audiences.
Otherwise, why the insecurity? The film should speak for itself, right?
I really hope it lessens over time because in the end, I really want to enjoy the new Batman series alongside other fans and take part in the joy - but I don't want to do that if it means I have to do so at the expense of prior Batman films.
I was active, but I think a key difference here is that those that were on the Burton side of that debate back then were pretty against anything new being able to top Burton's films - and were not in favor of the films even being made, at all.It's two things, IMO: the first is shiny new toy syndrome. If I remember correctly from your posts (forgive me if I'm wrong) you were at least somewhat active in the fandom during the Nolan era where the drama and dick measuring between Nolan and Burton fans was perpetual. It was particularly intense right after Begins came out and in the build up to TDK. It was a defining part of the discourse. The excitement and potential of the new thing makes the flaws in what came before suddenly feel painfully apparent. Batman ain't the only franchise this happens with.
Then you're seeing what you want to see, because I'm seeing the same thing from both. Nothing ever changes that much with fanboys. That "Insecurity" is something the Batfandom shares no matter which version you stan...which is hilarious considering Batman is easily arguably the most successful superhero on film. But there are always fans who get defensive about praise for an iteration that's not their preferred one.I was active, but I think a key difference here is that those that were on the Burton side of that debate back then were pretty against anything new being able to top Burton's films - and were not in favor of the films even being made, at all.
Whereas I don't recall ever seeing Nolan fans being upset that something new was in the pipeline. They were openly wanting to embrace it, too. That's a pretty huge difference.
I still think it's insecurity because you don't go out of your way to tear down the past, rewrite history and slam what came before if you're feeling confident with what you got now. I've been that fan with something else - so I'd know!
The Batman being an unambiguous success which seems to have only grown in critical estimation since its release being insufficient for people because it wasn't a pop culture phenomenon is very telling about the fandom , I see a decent number of people wanting the whole series scrapped for an imaginary scenario where The Brave & The Bold recaptures the Nolan era zeitgeist.Then you're seeing what you want to see, because I'm seeing the same thing from both. Nothing ever changes that much with fanboys. "Insecurity" is something the Batfandom shares no matter which version you stan...which is hilarious considering Batman is easily arguably the most successful superhero on film. But there are always fans who get defensive about praise for an iteration that's not their preferred one.
For real. Just ask Supes fans*.The Batman being an unambiguous success which seems to have only grown in critical estimation since its release being insufficient for people because it wasn't a pop culture phenomenon is very telling about the fandom , I see a decent number of people wanting the whole series scrapped for an imaginary scenario where The Brave & The Bold recaptures the Nolan era zeitgeist.
Or, another example, when reviews dropped for The Batman I popped into the thread the mood was so morbid that until I went and actually read them I genuinely thought the movie was being panned. Batman fans are ****ing spoiled.
Dang, man. This is so, so relatable - and it's a bit cathartic to read someone else say it!Part of me thinks it's the feeling of entering my 30's, and the other part of me feels like the rise of rage bait and franchise weaponizing after the Star Wars sequels has played a factor in me personally. Being so invested in a franchise is difficult for me now, especially with how my experience was engaging with people on those movies. It'd bad enough that's sort of warped my enjoyment of Star Wars.