15 db characters vs 15 marvel/dc characters

[buutenks]

The strongest 15 dbz characters vs Pre-crisis Superman.



Edit:I don't use much of the anime,only some feats that don't contradict the manga.
Bt you guys could use them if you want

First fight:Their manga version.

Second fight:anime version.....against their anime version you could add Superman 1,000,000 and Superman prime.

 

[buutenks]

damn! I hope you guys know what you're talking about here.

Top 15 DBU characters? Super Buu/Gohan, who could rip holes through reality and bring the other reals down along with the real time Universe, or Kid Buu who could vape galaxies? Or Base Vegetto to who that Super Buu was a child's play? Or Omega Shenron who could hand Vegetto and Super Buu their ass's just by wishing they were dead? Or Ssj4 Goggeta? Or the DB's fused kid Goku - The one with the Shenron?

I don't see anyone below the power of The Specre/The Living Tribunal take them down.
(btw, these are all anime versions)

Wrong,the GT characters have weak feats,so don't use them.

 

[Jplaya2023]

Goku wins

exactly i dont even know why nikkas argue this

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

The Dbz characters are pretty much immune to omnipotent effects.
In Dbz it seems by their laws that once you reach a certain amount of power most things don't work on you.
The only way any of these beings you stated can beat the Z-fighters Omegavegito stated is if they went back in time and killed them while they were babies, but I doubt they'd do that since most of them are too concieted to think they'd have to go to those measues. Maybe Thanos might panic and do it, but I doubt the other beings would.

Tell that to people like Galactus, who is still subject to higher beings laws.


It isn't some physical energy that gives the cosmic beings their power. It's usually something FAR more powerful. And it's usually conceptual.

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

The strongest 15 dbz characters vs Pre-crisis Superman.



Edit:I don't use much of the anime,only some feats that don't contradict the manga.
Bt you guys could use them if you want

First fight:Their manga version.

Second fight:anime version.....against their anime version you could add Superman 1,000,000 and Superman prime.

Utilizing SMP and SMOM is somewhat of an overkill on the same team to pretty much ANY opposing team.

 

[OMEGAVEGETTO]

Utilizing SMP and SMOM is somewhat of an overkill on the same team to pretty much ANY opposing team.

no way superman prime and pre cisis could take on all 15 buy themselves..precrisis would die first but no way will ssj4 gogeta and omega shenron lose

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

People who play checkers with planets when they're bored, could annihilate the entire several thousand roster of the Green Lantern Corps. individually, and never show one scratch or bruise for it. Yeah, they're total pushovers incapable of much.

 

[Jplaya2023]

People who play checkers with planets when they're bored, could annihilate the entire several thousand roster of the Green Lantern Corps. individually, and never show one scratch or bruise for it. Yeah, they're total pushovers incapable of much.

has absolutely nothing to do with fighting just gay stupid random power stuff like someone being able to sneeze planets out of orbit or whatever.

 

[Sloth7d]

All I know is It took a universal spirit bomb to kill Omega Shenron.
The power of the entire universe! And it barely killed him!
SS4 Gogeta makes him look like nothing without trying. So in the end the entire power of the universe probably couldn't kill SS4 Gogeta. In conclusion SS4Gogeta would pwn everyone on any list before anyone even thought to defend themselves.

 

[MSGohan]

It isn't some physical energy that gives the cosmic beings their power. It's usually something FAR more powerful. And it's usually conceptual.

1. Define "Physical energy".
2. Those things are probably never even mentioned in the comics why come up with something like that? If that is what concluded, then give reasons.
3. Besides, don't compare DBZ characters to abstract beings (if they even are abstract as you asume). Superman isn't an abstract being so that's a different story. I hope I don't need to express this further in details.

 

[Leto Atrides]

has absolutely nothing to do with fighting just gay stupid random power stuff like someone being able to sneeze planets out of orbit or whatever.

You always say things like this. For the love of God they're not in a goddamn skills contest. People on both sides have cosmic powers (of varying prominence). Why would they bother with physically fighting?

 

[Jplaya2023]

You always say things like this. For the love of God they're not in a goddamn skills contest. People on both sides have cosmic powers (of varying prominence). Why would they bother with physically fighting?

Because this thread is about them "fighting" not thinking eachother out of existence of shytting out galaxies or something as ******ed as that.

We want fights no dum sheeeit.

 

[Warhammer]

Fighting skills dont matter. It's a versus thread.
They are against each other. It doesn't matter how it is finished as long as it gets finished.

 

[red-five]

Fighting skills dont matter. It's a versus thread.
They are against each other. It doesn't matter how it is finished as long as it gets finished.

what good is strength gonna do
if you cant throw a decent punch
or combo at your enemy

 

[Leto Atrides]

1. They can. Where did the idea come from that they don't have fighting skill?

2. Many of them (ex. Thanos) are much larger than Z-Fighters. They can just crush them, it it came to that.

Barring the fact that they are skilled warriors, and if they want to they could just will themselves martial arts ability if they wanted to, skill alone does not win a fight.

 

[Harlekin]

Thanos with the HotU imagines a world without Dragonball characters. Done and won.

 

[Warhammer]

what good is strength gonna do
if you cant throw a decent punch
or combo at your enemy

It's not like Superman or any other superhero can't throw a punch or don't know how to.

Some DBZ fans just bring fighting skills into this because you want another excuse to why a DBZ character should win.

 

[Jplaya2023]

1. They can. Where did the idea come from that they don't have fighting skill?

2. Many of them (ex. Thanos) are much larger than Z-Fighters. They can just crush them, it it came to that.

Barring the fact that they are skilled warriors, and if they want to they could just will themselves martial arts ability if they wanted to, skill alone does not win a fight.

you cant crush something u cant catch so that idea is out.

 

[Jplaya2023]

Thanos with the HotU imagines a world without Dragonball characters. Done and won.

this is just stupid, he's not even using his "own" power he's using the HotU to do stupid sheeit.

 

[Jplaya2023]

It's not like Superman or any other superhero can't throw a punch or don't know how to.

Some DBZ fans just bring fighting skills into this because you want another excuse to why a DBZ character should win.

they cant throw effective punches or combo's or chain moves to defeat dbz characters in a fight.

 

[Harlekin]

this is just stupid, he's not even using his "own" power he's using the HotU to do stupid sheeit.

Okay, than the Living Tribunal does the exact same thing. Done and won.

 

[SSJ4_Mikael]

All I know is It took a universal spirit bomb to kill Omega Shenron.
The power of the entire universe! And it barely killed him!
SS4 Gogeta makes him look like nothing without trying. So in the end the entire power of the universe probably couldn't kill SS4 Gogeta. In conclusion SS4Gogeta would pwn everyone on any list before anyone even thought to defend themselves.

The DB Universe = 4 Galaxies.
And yes even Post-retcon Beyonder (present version) was a entire universe.
He beat no one in the list i wrote.

 

[SSJ4_Mikael]

this is just stupid, he's not even using his "own" power he's using the HotU to do stupid sheeit.

Pre-retcon Beyonder was stronger than God himself, he was nothing but an other insect for the Beyonder. TOAA´s law was not even noticed by Pre-retcon Beyonder. He desroyed the multi-verses a serval of times just for fun. And just with a finger.

 

[Leto Atrides]

you cant crush something u cant catch so that idea is out.

They can just make themselves faster, or make the Z Fighters slower.

 

[Warhammer]

Jplaya's just mad because no one is rooting for DBZ.
And who cares if Superman isn't a top martial artist with the greatest fighting skills the world has ever seen?
In the terms of Superheroes and DBZ, Raw power > fighting skills.

- If a linebacker went up against the skinny nerd who happened to know Kung-Fu?
Obviously knowing Kung-Fu would make the nerd a better fighter than the linebacker, so would the nerd win in a fight?

- Obviously Goku was a better fighter than Super Buu or Omega Shenron, so why didn't he beat them if better fighting skills can make you the winner?