2001: A Space Odyssey

[DA_Champion]

 

[Dr.]

The movie has, in my view, gotten this godly image of perfection and superiority to other movies and when I hear that it always reminds me of people who will look at (particularly controversial or unconventional) art and pretend like they get the vision of the artist. Usually they have no clue what the artist is trying to express but those viewers would rather act like they knew what it means than admit their to ignorance.

...That so many people who say it's there likely don't understand it or parrot what someone who does get it is saying.

...That doesn't mean the movie is bad or no one understands it (good and bad being subjective). Some of the responses here show there are people who either know what they are saying or are good enough at relaying other people's opinions on it that did.

I'm still not a fan of the movie but I'm not knocking those who genuinely enjoy it for what it is.

I understand everything about this film, from the literal on screen to the subtext. That doesn't mean I have to like it though.

Absolutely; you’re entirely free not to like it. On the other hand, those who do like 2001 may be expressing legitimate admiration - and not simply jumping on a bandwagon. When I first saw the film as a youngster, in no way did I fully understand it. I just knew that I had experienced an emotional connection. So I saw it again. And again. Then, I sought out the short story and novel; then I read books, articles and essays of scholarly analysis to see if my ideas and impressions were the same (or different) than those of others. The fact is, 2001 is such a highly esteemed cinematic achievement that volumes have been written on it. Consequently, the insights that new viewers discover tend to be rediscoveries. But this doesn’t disqualify the effort. (Conrad’s Heart of Darkness and Beethoven’s 9th Symphony aren’t diminished just because they have been so thoroughly studied.) Btw, there’s no shame in having one’s opinions informed by critics, scholars or other artists. If you finish a degree in literature, music, art history or cinema, you should be better informed about these subjects compared to when you started. And it’s entirely legitimate to share this knowledge. Threads like this would be a poorer place if they were solely restricted to casual, amateur analysis.

 

[spider-neil]

Hated the movie at first but I appreciate the movie with every new watch.
The only bit I liked on first viewing was the 'talkie' bit in the 2nd act but now I'm even starting to enjoy bits of act 1 and act 3.

 

[Evil Twin]

It's much easier to understand the appeal of 2001 if you've ever seen it on a big screen, especially in 70 mm. As a sound and light show, it's tough to beat.

I do get that it doesn't work for all people though. You really aren't given anyone to invest in. On first watch, it's unclear what the movie is trying to convey, although I think noting that it's about evolution becomes obvious upon examination. Heck, Kubrick puts several birthdays in the film itself, to go along with the birth of man and the birth of the starchild.

And, certainly, it is in no hurry to get anywhere. I think that's ok with the word "odyssey" in the title, it should be a long difficult journey to get somewhere, but if you don't enjoy the journey/spectacle part, I can't argue with that.

 

[DA_Champion]

There's a scene in Mad Men episode 7x05 that references the Hal-9000 scene, where he lip-reads the two guys scheming. It was pretty awesome !

 

[CountOrlok]

Love 2001. Best science fiction film, ever.

Plus Jack Nicholson just plays Jack Nicholson #214.

You do know that the guy had to do so many takes for so many scenes in this movie.. and gave a different performance each time. Kubrick literally chiseled that performance out of him.

 

[Lord]

It's not a film for everybody, but i would call it an "experience film", would realy like to see it on the big screen one day.

Since we're talking about Kubrick films, has anyone else watched Barry Lyndon? As a science Fiction film, many have tried to emulate 2001 and its image, but i don't think there has any film since that looks quite like Barry Lyndon

 

[Snow Queen]

It's not a film for everybody, but i would call it an "experience film", would realy like to see it on the big screen one day.

Since we're talking about Kubrick films, has anyone else watched Barry Lyndon? As a science Fiction film, many have tried to emulate 2001 and its image, but i don't think there has any film since that looks quite like Barry Lyndon

I saw it a year ago when I bought the blu-ray collection of Spartacus through Eyes Wide Shut. I thought it was beautifully shot but I wasn't really invested in anything in it, it's probably my least favourite of the films of his I've seen (all but Fear & Desire) at the moment but it's still good. I've been thinking of trying it again recently though, I feel like I may like it more on a second viewing.

 

[:eek:]

Bump

 

[Motown Marvel]

Barry Lydon has so many unparalleled brilliant achievements...but the story is not one of them ha. It was boring as hell. But seriously, the whole movie was lit by candlelight....that's insane. And it's beautiful. The authenticity is unreal.

 

[Asteroid-Man]

Finally watched this film and in 70mm at that! I enjoyed it - obviously there have been other movies since then that have been both technically nicer and deeper/more critical in meaning but nevertheless it was still a good film (ESPECIALLY with the context of its initial release date).

The exploration of the evolution of mankind and intelligence, from primordial ape crafting tools and making way for the dawn of man, to our exploration of nearby moons, our hubris with the pursuit of artificial intelligence, a jump to interplanetary travel and then transcending spacetime for a journey through hyperspace culminating in a fast forwarded view of life - essentially giving us the journey of individual life within a tesseract... it was a very reflective film. The ending was interesting - to me it was merely an on-the-nose juxtaposition of the birthplace of man. Nature vs our growth from our point of origin.

Neat stuff.

 

[Black Narcissus]

Folks don't have to like this or enjoy it, but please try to respect the history. This film changed cinema and continues to inspire many directors today. Not many films today will have the pleasure of changing cinema forever.

 

[CGHulk]

It's not a film for everybody, but i would call it an "experience film", would realy like to see it on the big screen one day.

Since we're talking about Kubrick films, has anyone else watched Barry Lyndon? As a science Fiction film, many have tried to emulate 2001 and its image, but i don't think there has any film since that looks quite like Barry Lyndon

I love Barry Lyndon!

 

[gwynplaine]

Barry Lyndon is awesome, probably my favorite Kubrick film with The Shining.

 

[gwynplaine]

Barry Lydon has so many unparalleled brilliant achievements...but the story is not one of them ha. It was boring as hell. But seriously, the whole movie was lit by candlelight....that's insane. And it's beautiful. The authenticity is unreal.

_ I don't agree, but to each its own.
_ Only a few scenes. Which doesn't take away anything from the technical and artistic brilliance. Unfortunately, I don't think there will ever be another film like Barry Lyndon. (Also the closest thing we have to Kubrick's Napoleon.)

 

[Dr.]

50th anniversary. And a new, 70mm print.

http://deadline.com/2018/03/christopher-nolan-cannes-stanley-kubrick-space-odyssey-2001-1202354670/

 

[Guts]

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[Guts]

I already see a few comments here and there talking about how they don't like the change in color. But I like it. I hope this edition gets a blu ray release.

 

[Reel-Man]

Coincidentally i caught this on TV last night. So captivating yet still as confusing as ever.

 

[dark_b]

do you think they changed the colors only for the 50th Anniversary Trailer or that the new 4k will look like this? it looks very yellow .
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[Guts]

I saw a comment on reddit that said the change in color is because of the photochemical recreation of the original negatives.

 

[OutOfBoose]

I like new colors. Great flesh tones, beautiful and fuller looking saturation. BUT, black levels are horrible on 50th anniversary. Pretty much like majority of Nolan movies on UHD.

 

[Guts]

The new 70mm print is coming to a theater in my city.
https://redfordtheatre.com/events/2001-a-space-odyssey/
Can't wait.

 

[Breogan]

Just watched the 2001: A Space Odyssey 70mm print restoration in theaters IMAX this weekend.
WOW!
It's probably been over 15 years since I saw it or gave it much mind, and maybe 20 years before that for the first time.
Movie absolutely holds up, and as I've gotten older there is even more there I appreciate, including the pace, and focus.
Still makes allot of the praised sci-fi that followed it, pale in comparison.
Beautiful, powerful movie.

 

[Dr.]

On this date in 1992 (January 12), Hal 9000 "became operational." :nerdy: