2014 Global Ebola Outbreak

Remember when the United States didn't have Ebola and then decided to just bring infected people into the country so we could have it too.

Those infected people were American citizens who've already risked their own lives to go over and actually do something to help the people in West Africa. What were we suppose to do? Let them stay over there and die? The point is moot anyway since both of those people are now cured and this person in Dallas came back on their own accord without any symptoms.
 
Remember when the United States didn't have Ebola and then decided to just bring infected people into the country so we could have it too.

Yes, that's why they brought those selfless aid workers home. So the US would have ebola.

Think before you post, man.
 
This person is quarantined .
This isn't the movie Outbreak.
It is under control .
 
You guys aren't really all that in tune with sarcasm I take it.

Those infected people were American citizens who've already risked their own lives to go over and actually do something to help the people in West Africa. What were we suppose to do? Let them stay over there and die? The point is moot anyway since both of those people are now cured and this person in Dallas came back on their own accord without any symptoms.

Right.

Yes, that's why they brought those selfless aid workers home. So the US would have ebola.

Think before you post, man.

I'll probably just continue to have fun and not really think all that hard before posting on an internet forum, but appreciate it.
 
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We should already be restricting flights to and from the affected regions. We should have doing that for a while now.
 
We should already be restricting flights to and from the affected regions. We should have doing that for a while now.
To be fair, you would not fly internationally if you were feeling ill enough to be infectious. It's one thing to have a migraine or be sniffly and fly. It's quite another to have uncontrollable diarrhea and vomiting and fly.

But I'd say the real danger would not be necessarily spreading it to the US (although it's so easy to make everything about us :cwink: ) but to another country where they don't have the resources to quarantine and support them. Ebola is just a horrible disease for anyone to have, period.
 
My hypochondria loves this news. :dry:

There are bacterias in the US just as horrible as Ebola and they've been here for a long time. How's your hypochondria now? :p

Seriously tho there are a number of truly nasty bacterias already present in this country that like Ebola can do some truly horrifying things to the human body. Things thatd make you inclined to eat a bullet. But short of some truly bad luck, as long as you practice good hygiene and live a healthy life style youre likely to be just fine.

And depression, worry, exhaustion, and anxiety weaken the immune system so if youre worrying about this stuff youre actually making it harder for your body to fight viruses and bacteria. Point is, worrying is useless.
 
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There are bacterias in the US just as horrible as Ebola and they've been here for a long time. How's your hypochondria now? :p

Seriously tho there are a number of truly nasty bacterias already present in this country that like Ebola can do some truly horrifying things to the human body. Things thatd make you inclined to eat a bullet. But short of some truly bad luck, as long as you practice good hygiene and live a healthy life style youre likely to be just fine.

And depression, worry, exhaustion, and anxiety weaken the immune system so if youre worrying about this stuff youre actually making it harder for your body to fight viruses and bacteria. Point is, worrying is useless.
Ebola's a virus but I get your point. :funny: Necrotizing fasciitis ("flesh-eating bacteria") is the truly scary stuff, because it actually can form from very common bacteria. It could be living on your skin right now, but because it got under your skin a certain way, all of a sudden you're in danger of losing your limbs to infection, and doctors are cutting off chunks of your flesh because it's traveling too quickly for them to do anything else.

Luckily, most cases of that arise in people with compromised immune systems or poor circulation due to smoking. So it should be pretty rare for the regular person. But STILL.

My husband missed weeks of college (and had to drop a major) because he got blood poisoning after shredding his hand on concrete skateboarding and it got infected. He had to be hospitalized. Even breaking his wrist skateboarding was less disruptive to his life, relatively.

I wouldn't describe myself as an overly clean person, but I am effin' militant about washing after getting a cut that breaks the skin. You just never know, and it isn't like soap and water ever hurt anybody.
 
Ebola's a virus but I get your point. :funny: Necrotizing fasciitis ("flesh-eating bacteria") is the truly scary stuff, because it actually can form from very common bacteria. It could be living on your skin right now, but because it got under your skin a certain way, all of a sudden you're in danger of losing your limbs to infection, and doctors are cutting off chunks of your flesh because it's traveling too quickly for them to do anything else.

Luckily, most cases of that arise in people with compromised immune systems or poor circulation due to smoking. So it should be pretty rare for the regular person. But STILL.

My husband missed weeks of college (and had to drop a major) because he got blood poisoning after shredding his hand on concrete skateboarding and it got infected. He had to be hospitalized. Even breaking his wrist skateboarding was less disruptive to his life, relatively.

I wouldn't describe myself as an overly clean person, but I am effin' militant about washing after getting a cut that breaks the skin. You just never know, and it isn't like soap and water ever hurt anybody.

I've also had a bad infection, but mine was from a severe work place injury and they were able to cut away the infected tissue before it reached the bone or well into my blood. It looked horrid tho. It was all green and black. The orthopedic wouldn't even take the time to numb my arm. He took one look at it, grabbed a scalpel, and just started cutting tissue off. That was some scary ****. I'd been in a cast which is how the wound was able to get so infected without me or anyone else noticing. If it hadn't been for me noticing the smell of the dying tissue I doubt I would have gotten it taken care of in time to save my arm. Good chance I'd have been in a hospital like your husband.

Ever since then if I get a cut or puncture wound at work I grab the spray bottle of isopropyl alcohol and spray the **** out of the wound and wash it with hot water and soap and then bandage it. My fellow workers prolly think I'm a wimp, but I'd rather be a wimp with my health than try to act like a tough guy and get a nasty infection. Especially that flesh-eating ****. I've read some nasty news stories about that stuff. And in my area, people (kids mostly who swim in fresh waters) have been getting sick and dying due to a parasite that lives in fresh water eating away at their brain. The parasite can be swallowed and get in your eyes and your fine. But if it goes up your nose you're well and truly ****ed.

You just never know what might get ya, and thinking about it too much will drive anyone bonkers.
 
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I've also had a bad infection, but mine was from a severe work place injury and they were able to cut away the infected tissue before it reached the bone or well into my blood. It looked horrid tho. It was all green and black. The orthopedic wouldn't even take the time to numb my arm. He took one look at it, grabbed a scalpel, and just started cutting tissue off. That was some scary ****. I'd been in a cast which is how the wound was able to get so infected without me or anyone else noticing. If it hadn't been for me noticing the smell of the dying tissue I doubt I would have gotten it taken care of in time to save my arm. Good chance I'd have been in a hospital like your husband.

Ever since then if I get a cut or puncture wound at work I grab the spray bottle of isopropyl alcohol and spray the **** out of the wound and wash it with hot water and soap and then bandage it. My fellow workers prolly think I'm a wimp, but I'd rather be a wimp with my health than try to act like a tough guy and get a nasty infection. Especially that flesh-eating ****. I've read some nasty news stories about that stuff. And in my area, people (kids mostly who swim in fresh waters) have been getting sick and dying due to a parasite that lives in fresh water eating away at their brain. The parasite can be swallowed and get in your eyes and your fine. But if it goes up your nose you're well and truly ****ed.

You just never know what might get ya, and thinking about it too much will drive anyone bonkers.
LOL, like your immune system can be worked at the gym. :oldrazz:

If the infection happened under the cast, it should have been washed and sterilized before the put the cast on. There are so many medical errors that happen, it's truly sad what's preventable.

It's not a parasite, it's an amoeba. And yes, it eats your brain and gets in there via the nose. That's why you shouldn't dive into lakes and rivers and hot springs. (Wearing a nose clip doesn't hurt either - better to look like a dork than be dead!) Make sure your pools are chlorinated too, and don't use tap water if you rinse your sinuses.
 
LOL, like your immune system can be worked at the gym. :oldrazz:

If the infection happened under the cast, it should have been washed and sterilized before the put the cast on. There are so many medical errors that happen, it's truly sad what's preventable.

It's not a parasite, it's an amoeba. And yes, it eats your brain and gets in there via the nose. That's why you shouldn't dive into lakes and rivers and hot springs. (Wearing a nose clip doesn't hurt either - better to look like a dork than be dead!) Make sure your pools are chlorinated too, and don't use tap water if you rinse your sinuses.

Yeah needless to say my orthopedic doctor was lacking in knowledge when it came to flesh wounds. He was all about the bone and completely ignored my wound. I had burnt rubber melted to the wound and the emergency room and he just left it and said my body would push it out. No cleaning no nothing. They wrapped and splinted my arm at the emergency room and the next day the ortho set the bone and slapped a cast on it. It was my first time dealing with a serious injury and I made the mistake of unquestioningly trusting my doctors. I learned real quick that having a PHD does not preclude someone from being a moron.
 
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It's not a parasite, it's an amoeba.
It is (technically) a parasitic relationship when the following conditions are met:

1) One organism lives in or on another

and

2) The former organism benefits at the expense of the host (latter) organism.

(Although, the definition provided by the CDC seems to extend this definition to include commensal relationships.)
 
It is (technically) a parasitic relationship when the following conditions are met:

1) One organism lives in or on another

and

2) The former organism benefits at the expense of the host (latter) organism.

(Although, the definition provided by the CDC seems to extend this definition to include commensal relationships.)
Oh yeah, true. I just thought of a parasite as something that NEEDS its specific host to live, and the amoeba doesn't need to eat human brains to live. It's just there and there's something to eat and it happens to be brains. :oldrazz:
 
Better to be a little paranoid than under-prepared. This could become a serious threat.

Also, the spread of a virus isn't comparable to Fukashima, and I don't know why you think it is. You're complacent.
I'm not too complacent but I don't freak out at every percieved threat, no matter how small. The comparison is accurate though. Neither is a serious or imminent threat to the country but the reaction will be far and away beyond necessary to prepare for any potential threat there is.

One person has ebola and contracted it solely from his visit to an infected country. The disease spreads through bodily fluids, not through the air, not through surface contact. You'd have to be in direct contact with his bodily fluids to get exposed.

Fukishima is similar in that the radioactive dust cloud people feared was not only a vague threat to begin with but one on the other side of the Pacific Ocean and would dissipate into nothing long before it reached the U.S. coast but none of this prevented people from buying and taking(!) iodine pills because they were trying to prevent radiation sickness.

There was little to no threat of radiation sickness in the country and there is only at this time a minor threat of Ebola spreading in the U.S. and mainly only to those who had direct contact with the man himself while he was infectious.

It is the result of the percieved threat, not the threat itself that I'm comparing. In neither case is there a real threat of illness. Unless you go to Africa where the infection is rampant of course.

Edit: Also Anita did a pretty good summation already, so I just spent a bunch of time for nothing. :p
 
I was half expecting some youtube video of friends/family of this guy getting swarmed by CDC and other military groups descending on them and taking them into some sort of unmarked vehicle.
 
Oh yeah, true. I just thought of a parasite as something that NEEDS its specific host to live, and the amoeba doesn't need to eat human brains to live. It's just there and there's something to eat and it happens to be brains. :oldrazz:
It's a zombie amoeba. This is how the zombie infection spreads. You've cracked the mystery of zombies. :woot:
 
Texas Ebola patient had contact with children while contagious

Health officials have so far identified between 12 and 18 people that the U.S. Ebola patient may have come in contact with while contagious, an official said at a press conference Wednesday.

Five students at four different schools have come into contact with the Ebola patient, Dallas Superintendent Mike Miles added, but none has exhibited symptoms. The children are being monitored at home, and the schools remain open, Miles said.

Concern about the possible spread of the killer virus comes less than a day after the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention announced that, for the first time, a person with Ebola was diagnosed on American soil.

How that case was handled has sparked many serious questions.

The patient, a man, walked into an emergency room at Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital in Dallas on September 26. A nurse asked him for his travel history while he was in the emergency room, and the patient said he had traveled to Africa, said Dr. Mark Lester, executive vice president of Texas Health Resources.

But that information was not "fully communicated" to the medical team, Lester said.

The man, who had just flown from Liberia to the United States, underwent basic blood tests, but not an Ebola screening, and was sent home with antibiotics, said Dr. Edward Goodman with Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital.
Two days later, on September 28, the man returned to the facility, where it was determined that he probably had Ebola. He was then isolated. He tested positive for the virus Tuesday, health officials said.

The CDC, which has helped lead the international response to Ebola, advises that all medical facilities should ask patients with symptoms consistent with Ebola for their travel history.

It's possible that others were infected because of the lapse. People who have Ebola are contagious -- but only through contact with infected bodily fluids -- when they display active symptoms of the virus, such as a high fever, severe headache, diarrhea and vomiting, among others. It's not like a cold or the flu, which can be spread before symptoms show up, and it doesn't spread through the air.

That the man had recently arrived in the United States from Liberia should have been a huge red flag, if he was asked about his travels.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/01/health/ebola-us/index.html?hpt=hp_t1
 
All the security against terrorists and no one thought to look for security against contagious diseases which kill more people than terrorists ever did.

I'm disappointed there was no red flag issued at all over the fact the man came from a country with an Ebola outbreak. Not particularly surprised though since as far as I know we aren't afraid of the terrorists sneaking in from there. :whatever:

Really, is it that hard to say "you came from this country with an Ebola outbreak, we'll have to quarantine you?"

I still think the threat of an epidemic is small but the fact he had contact with so many people is still unsettling.
 
As long as he wasnt spitting, defecating, pissing, or bleeding on people then no one he came in contact with should be infected. But ya never know. It was a massive mistake on the hospitals part for sure.
 
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Whoh boy, so according to the NYT (long article, lots of details) Mr. Duncan a Liberian national knew he had potentially come in direct contact with ebola, he had graciously helped a family (he was renting and living with) with their dying daughter (19), move her in his car to and from a hospital, and helped carry her back on Sept. 15.
She and others(her brother) in the family and a neighbor have sense died.
Knowing he'd been in contact he traveled on a plane to Texas where he has family Sept. 19...etc...
He checked himself in Sept 26, but the hospital missed it because ....
[he] told officials at Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital last Friday that he had just arrived from West Africa but was not admitted that day because that information was not passed along at the hospital, officials acknowledged Wednesday.
Did he not mention exposure? Did they not here it?
The man, Thomas E. Duncan, was sent home under the mistaken belief that he had only a mild fever, a hospital administrator said; the information that he had traveled from Liberia, one of the nations at the heart of the Ebola epidemic, was overlooked.

Yep, so diagnosed with a mild fever he went about his life as he got sicker.

Officials said Wednesday that they believed Mr. Duncan came into contact with 12 to 18 people when he was experiencing active symptoms and when the disease was contagious
 
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What a mess. They now have 80 people under watch who may have caught this virus and another reported case in Hawaii.

I know people keep saying not to worry but this is nightmare fuel for some.
 

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