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80's R rated Action Movie Shootout: QF1 - Die Hard vs Lethal Weapon

Which was the better Movie?


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Here's the first quarter final of the 80's R rated shootout! :D Discuss the movies and make your vote! The poll will be open three days!




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Easy pick for me - Die Hard

I was familiar with Mel Gibson and his work prior to Lethal Weapon, I thought I'd got a grip on him with Mad Max, silent, expressive eyes, a look that could pierce armour and then LH came out, loud, big hair, extrovert but dark, this was Max but having not taken his medication for a week.

LH allowed the 80's films that had gone before to settle and then add the jokes that actually were jokes not merely a seg-way play on any particular violence that presided that said event. My god, there was even a plot. Gibson & Glover work wonders together, no doubt, but for me, I couldn't then and I certainly couldn't now (if I tried) get into these films as if I loved them, not like I can the winner of this QF for me, Die Hard.

Die Hard was the Spaghetti Western of the action era, the lone man, against a tower block full of yuppies at Christmas, no wonder he went on the rampage !

I find both Gibson and Willis hard to like, as people, as actors, both relentlessly smug and un-self aware, it's like a cloud of ******** has drifted over them and stayed with them, but Willis' character here needs that, to see him through, the wise-cracking gumshoe with no hope, no money, and no chance fire-cracking his way through the many to get to a villain so whip-smart, he comes with health insurance.

Die Hard gives the viewer everything you'd want in an action flick and more, action (plenty), jokes (lots) and a plot driven by the actions of the characters rather than being pulled along by circumstances of bombastic tenacity (see Arnie films).

It's not heralded by many as the 80's action flick for nothing, the setting, the odds and the script add a huge amount, but principally it works due to Rickman and Willis, and the tete a tate towards that ending.

Only one winner for me in these two pairings, bad luck Riggs, but I am too old for this s**t.
 
Die Hard.

Rickman's too good as Gruber. Willis is too hungry, energetic, and versatile in this film. The see-saw effect between intense action, the occasional moments of levity, and genuine dramatic tension is too good.

And the script is still arguably one of the smartest and most cunning for an action film in decades.

Lethal Weapon is very, very good. But Die Hard is magnificent.
 
Just dawned on me, and I'm fault as much anyone, Beverley Hills Cop missed out on the Quarter's, major omission !
 
Lethal Weapon for me. No one does crazy cop like Mel Gibson and Danny Glover was the appropriate counterpoint to let things swing as they may.

I definitely think you guys have raised some great points for why Die Hard should be considered over this one though.
 
Lethal Weapon was very good and was sort of the beginning of the "buddy cop" genre but its not quite Die Hard is it, its often copied, rarely equaled.

I'd say both were massively influential on the action genre, creating sub genres within the genre, but Die Hard's influence has span further and it remains one of the most perfectly executed concepts in movie history IMO.

Just dawned on me, and I'm fault as much anyone, Beverley Hills Cop missed out on the Quarter's, major omission !

I was curious to see if either Beverly Hills Cop movie got nominated, as I wonder if people see them as action films or comedy thrillers.
 
Die Hard by a country mile. Die Hard practically invented its own sub-genre of action movies, whereas Lethal Weapon was entertaining but really did nothing substantially new in the buddy action movie trope.
 
This is so effin' hard. Those are probably my two favorite action movies EVER. It's like picking one of my children.

EDIT: I'll go with "Die Hard," though, just based on John McTiernan's technical innovations and his style which has yet to be matched by a mainstream director. No one else shoots movies like he has done. It is, after all, the best action movie of all times.
 
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These are two of my all time favourite movies and as a kid Riggs was just behind Han, Indy and Bond as my favourite hero, but as I got older I began to appreciate McClane even more and the fact is Die Hard was a genre buster, just the most influential action picture of all time and I can't look past it's timeless, perfectly executed quality.
 
I was going to vote Lethal Weapon. I won't argue with anyone saying Die Hard is better but I've got more attachment to LW. I loved those old school buddy cop films.
 
This is a Sophie's Choice deal... I honestly couldn't make a choice between the two.
 
I'd have voted for Die Hard if I'd seen the thread, but Lethal Weapon is equally as great doesn't deserve to be blown out so significantly.
 

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