A Comic series based in the BB/TDK realism...

[Ammo]

I would love to see this.

Bats is really the only superhero I have much interest in because of the fact that he's human, relies on detective skill and pure ability and technology to pull off his feats.

Translation: I hate the fantasy villains like Clayface, but love the realistic villains.

I would love to see this gritty realism adapted into a comic series. I personally hate the idea of Batman being part of the DCU...it just doesn't make sense for a human to run around with "fantasy" superheroes and expect to hold up.

But of course, I'm not much of a comics reader, I just got into the Batman/Detective/All-Star thing a few months ago.

I think a BB/TDK-type take on Batman would bring more non-fanboys into comics, which is exactly what the comics industry needs, more mass appeal.

 

[joke]

I read the comic adaptation of the movie and a whole series based in that realm would be one of the most dry series I've ever read.

 

[BubbaGump]

The closest thing you'll get is Gotham Central.

 

[Joker]

There is no "realism" in Batman Begins or TDK. It's a movie where a secret, ancient group of ninjas, who keep society in check, steal a microwave emmiter to vaporize all the water in the pipes, but does nothing to humans, and are stopped by a grown man dressed as a bat. There is no "realism."

 

[ironman29758]

read Batman Nine Lives. you might like it.

 

[AgentGraves!]

There is no "realism" in Batman Begins or TDK. It's a movie where a secret, ancient group of ninjas, who keep society in check, steal a microwave emmiter to vaporize all the water in the pipes, but does nothing to humans, and are stopped by a grown man dressed as a bat. There is no "realism."

I Believe the correct term you are looking for is 'hightened reality' it's the same one that Nolan used and I agree, I'd like to see a book that is apart from the cannon, apart of the continuity that falls in the realm of 'Hightend Reality" I think it would be cool.

 

[CrimsonMist]

well, there's always Year One...

 

[Nepenthes]

You'll find this in isolated story arcs or minis rather than an actual series. As Bubba said Gotham Central is pretty good for what you're talking about. Also try Batman Gothic or Venom, Year One, Dark Knight Returns, Matt Wagners Mad Monk or Monster Men

 

[snipe]

But of course, I'm not much of a comics reader, I just got into the Batman/Detective/All-Star thing a few months ago.

I think a BB/TDK-type take on Batman would bring more non-fanboys into comics, which is exactly what the comics industry needs, more mass appeal.

Only been reading a few months and already an expert on what the industry needs, huh? Wow, you're a quick learner.
No offense to the original poster, but I love it when people talk about "realism" in superhero comics. Batman, powers or not, does things no man could ever dream of doing - be it in comics, film, tv, animation, or anything else.
If he was realistic, he'd've been killed his first night out.

 

[Nepenthes]

I think he has a point, too many comics are simply inpenetrable by uniniated readers and if the movies are able to be a portal to comics you may as well maximise the potential for people to cross over. Alot of people are simply put of by all the costumes and codenames and powers and outright superhero set-ups. If the content was closer to the style we see in TV or in film then you could deliver action and mystery and outrageous characters without seeming to "comicbooky", and i use that word for all it's negative and juvenile connotations in the mainstream. Hugely succesful films and TV shows deal with fantasy based content but they do it in a way that doesn't seem so mothers basement. And I don't think there''s anything wrong with producing comics to appeal to a wider market. As long there are still series' for us geeks to enjoy as well.


It will be interesting to see how accessable the TDK tie-in books are. If people walk into a comic shop for the first time in their life and say 'I just saw the batman movie" to the guy behind the counter, you want to be able to point to Joker: Dark knight and Two Face Year One and know they'll be a good stepping stones from TDK to The Killing Joke, DKR, Year One, Long Halloween, what have you.

 

[Finlandman]

I used to hate villains like Mr. Freeze and Clayface, but after reading The Long Halloween, I've started to appreciate these "Freaks". You should read THL too. First the story is very "realistic" with Bats trying to put end to the Roman, but when you read on, you can see that Gotham becomes weirder and weirder.

 

[Motown Marvel]

i agree there was little realism in BB. all it does is make the fantastic appear almost real....verisimilitude, i believe is the proper term. and most quality batman stories already follow this path. the movie didnt do anything that the comics havent been doing better for decades.

 

[Nepenthes]

I think people by and large get what the realism in BB was about. If they dont they must have some serious problems. 'Realism' is just the shorthand we have to use when describing the difference between Nolans movies and what occurs in other superhero movies or previous Batman (versimilitude is just too hard to spell ). There is obviously a difference but we don't need another 50 page thread full of people shouting at the walls about it. man that thread sucked.

 

[Joker]

I think people by and large get what the realism in BB was about. If they dont they must have some serious problems. 'Realism' is just the shorthand we have to use when describing the difference between Nolans movies and what occurs in other superhero movies or previous Batman (versimilitude is just too hard to spell ). There is obviously a difference but we don't need another 50 page thread full of people shouting at the walls about it. man that thread sucked.

I dont think people get it at all. That's why you have people saying that the Joker couldnt have been bleached, as it's not "realistic" and wouldn't fit. I hate to use terms like Nolanites, but people like that are definetly Nolan apologists at best, defending everything he changes, no matter how stupid the change. I love Begins, and DK looks great, but there are definite flaws and bad decisions being made.

 

[gqxsensazn]

If given the chance, Nolan should write a story for Batman to be published as a comic. He's got a pretty good understanding of the character is like and how he wants to portray him. It would be interesting to see how well it translate on a different medium. As for the artist, I would want Lee Bermejo on it. His style seems to resemble Nolan's vision the best in terms of heightened reality.

 

[The_Joker7895]

I'd say your best bet is to go with Batman: The Long Halloween, Batman: Dark Victory, Batman: Year One, and The Killing Joke.

 

[Ammo]

I think he has a point, too many comics are simply inpenetrable by uniniated readers and if the movies are able to be a portal to comics you may as well maximise the potential for people to cross over. Alot of people are simply put of by all the costumes and codenames and powers and outright superhero set-ups. If the content was closer to the style we see in TV or in film then you could deliver action and mystery and outrageous characters without seeming to "comicbooky", and i use that word for all it's negative and juvenile connotations in the mainstream. Hugely succesful films and TV shows deal with fantasy based content but they do it in a way that doesn't seem so mothers basement. And I don't think there''s anything wrong with producing comics to appeal to a wider market. As long there are still series' for us geeks to enjoy as well.


It will be interesting to see how accessable the TDK tie-in books are. If people walk into a comic shop for the first time in their life and say 'I just saw the batman movie" to the guy behind the counter, you want to be able to point to Joker: Dark knight and Two Face Year One and know they'll be a good stepping stones from TDK to The Killing Joke, DKR, Year One, Long Halloween, what have you.

You hit the nail right on the head.

I have to admit I feel intimidated when I walk into a comic shop because I don't classify myself as a "fanboy." NOT superior, but intimidated. It's a different crowd than I'm used to and I don't know the terminology. Heroes like Superman, The Flash, Justice League, etc don't interest me because they're not "believable." Batman...even with all his unrealisticness as well, is still "believable" to me...especially under the Nolan mythos.

I think something along the lines of the Nolan mythos would be huge among mainstream America to get them back into the medium of comics.

I'm no comics expert, but I do know that the industry needs to expand outside of comic shops and comic conventions, and make it more accessible to non-hardcore readers. (Do you have any idea how long it took me to figure out what the hell Final Crisis was and what continuity changes mean? I'm STILL not quite sure)

 

[Joker]

I don't think comics CAN really get out of the comic store. Most places (other than book stores) refuse to carry comics without the Comic Code approval stamp...and no one uses that anymore.

 

[Venom 1988]

Putting the whole realism/grounded in realism debate aside, I think a comic based in the Nolanverse would be cool, at least mini-series if anything.

 

[snipe]

Putting the whole realism/grounded in realism debate aside, I think a comic based in the Nolanverse would be cool, at least mini-series if anything.

The problem with that is when it's time to do the next movie (whether Nolan's doing it or not), the comics get pooped on because they want to do something else with the characters on screen.

 

[Venom 1988]

The problem with that is when it's time to do the next movie (whether Nolan's doing it or not), the comics get pooped on because they want to do something else with the characters on screen.

Not unless whoever is writing the story is collaborating with the Nolan and co. to see what they can and cant use. Hell just have David Goyer write it

 

[Comics N' Toons]

year one was realism, and if u ask me, nolan did only a mediocre job @ a batman story....

they are still better than schumacher, but i saw BB as more of a crime drama & less a comicbook movie

half the time i thought it was an HBO program or something

 

[Nepenthes]

I don't think comics CAN really get out of the comic store. Most places (other than book stores) refuse to carry comics without the Comic Code approval stamp...and no one uses that anymore.

the comics code matters jack, as you say it's obsolete. I think it must be that comics just don't move enough to justify taking rack space from other magazines. In news agencies and corner stores they're always crammed in a little box somewhere you have to bend over to flip through. They're not visible. and of course that means no kid's ever gonna start picking them up if they can't see them. When I was a kid I was introduced to comics through though one of those rotating stands, in an airport bookshop of all places. You can't miss those things, all those covers and it's almost irresistible not to give them a spin; next thing you know you're pestering your dad to buy you something simply because you love what's on the front. For me it was Spider VS Venom on a holofoil background, and it was instant. It took a single comic for me to fall in. But that will never happen when you stick them all in a little box at the end of an aisle, next to all those little kids mags filled with Hillary Duff and Naruto. I really don't understand why those rotating stands have dissapeared, it's so simple. I assume that the way distribution is set up that the Big Two and Diamond don't want comics going to other outlets, that's seems the only reasonable explanation. because it shouldn't be hard.

 

[Zig-Zag Man]

Would be right up my alley ...

 

[BubbaGump]

The problem with that is when it's time to do the next movie (whether Nolan's doing it or not), the comics get pooped on because they want to do something else with the characters on screen.

A mini-series based on the Nolanverse would indeed be cool. They could be stories that take place in the world of Nolan and Goyer's Batman but wouldn't mess up their continuity. Just little one-shots of Batman fighting crime and solving murders--all within the realistic atmosphere and environment of Nolanverse Gotham.