Age of Ultron Avengers: Age of Ultron Fan Review Thread (Spoilers)

[seahammer]

Did anyone else cringe at the Ultron line about children? On top of it not being funny or making sense, isnt he supposed to be a all knowing robot, how did he forget what they are called. Captain America's line to a ultron drone "you didn't finish" as it is falling took me out of it as well.

It didn't ruin the movie for me or anything, and I usually don't complain about things like "too much humor", but you happen to have picked out my two least favorite lines in the whole movie! So yes, I did cringe. They are the only two lines that I really had a problem with.

Everything else was fine by me/met my expectations for the level of humor in this.

 

[ElMariachi]

I thought the movie was great. Thought it was a tighter package than the original and offered bit more in terms of drama and character building. A perfect sequel for a multi-picture franchise that will transition from cheerful comic book fun to darker places. Kind of like a pre-Empire Strikes Back that we know is coming with Civil War and Infinity War Part 1.

How anyone that is a fan of comic books can complain about this is beyond me. It's straight up fun, features some off the hook action sequences, is laugh out loud funny, and unique. We got a James Spader voiced robot having a meaningful sunset conversation with the Vision. We got Thor doing shots with Pearl Harbor veterans. We have Iron Man throwing the Hulk through an entire building. I really can't believe that we are watching this and it is coherent. Bravo Marvel for making every movie entertaining. Even IM2 and Thor 2 were at least amusing and funny.

 

[Dr. Remy Lebeau]

I agree with those that thought this was actually better than the first. My full thoughts can be found here:

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[Tony Stark]

Apparently there are some who are a bit outraged because they took it as her feeling like a monster because she was sterilized. Which I can all but guarantee was not Whedon's intent AT ALL.

Yeah absolutely that was not his intent. I guess to someone coming in cold to that movie, it could be confusing, but if the scene in the flashback where she is forced to shoot a man sitting infront of her wasn't enough, the previous films where she talks about the "red in her ledger", it's pretty clear the "monster" is the cold blooded killer side of her past.

 

[Dark Raven]

Who were all the extra personnel at the new Avengers facility? They seemed like SHIELD crew or something similar.

I would've liked Cap to have actually said Avengers Assemble instead of cutting him short before that last word.

 

[Silver Surfer]

I think they are saving that line for when the Avengers re-assemble after the Civil War schism to fight Thanos in P2.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Who were all the extra personnel at the new Avengers facility? They seemed like SHIELD crew or something similar.

I would've liked Cap to have actually said Avengers Assemble instead of cutting him short before that last word.

Upon watching the movie it more than once, I agree. The first time, it was hilarious. 2nd time, I wanted the line finished. Should have just let him say it.

 

[hafizbat]

Did anyone else cringe at the Ultron line about children? On top of it not being funny or making sense, isnt he supposed to be a all knowing robot, how did he forget what they are called. Captain America's line to a ultron drone "you didn't finish" as it is falling took me out of it as well.

Were there any others I missed?

I liked both of those.

 

[itstrue718]

That is my take as well. Is there a debate on this? I thought it was kind of spelled out pretty clearly.

It is very clear. People are so ridiculously sensitive about everything, that they over-react to everything. The line was to emphasize that killing would be easier, even if that meant killing a child. Regardless of the mission, sentimentality would never be an issue. People are stupid.

 

[MahvelBaby!]

I thought the line cutting off was great, because my theater finished it for him and cheered.

 

[Nathan]

I thought the line cutting off was great, because my theater finished it for him and cheered.

Man, wish I had been there. Sounds awesome.

 

[Val_Zod]

This film gave me a headache, and huge grin on my face at the same time. It was frantically all over the place, but the action, and character interactions were endearing, and almost nostalgic. Ultron, and the twins however, disappointed me. Ultron's motivations just didn't feel too big, despite them being, and he went down like a wimp. QS was woefully underdeveloped, which was unfortunate, as I found him charming.

People weren't lying about Hawkeye getting his due. He represented the film's emotionsl core, and now I went from not giving a hoot, to actually hoping Renner gets a solo film of his own.

Overall, this was a geek friendly film for sure. Lots of interesting references, and comicbooky moments sprinkled in. It was a great theater experience, but I wonder how I'll feel about the film, when it comes out on Blu-Ray.

So far for me, 8.5/10

 

[MahvelBaby!]

I used to post a lot more on these forums, and there's a reason for that. When I read stuff like 'it seems like this time Joss Whedon made the movie he wanted to, but shouldn't have' and 'Black Widow's sterilization being stupid and seemingly out of something like Days of our Lives' I lose interest in discussing what I think we're discussing here: movies.

And I don't want to generalize. There are lots of interesting users who are smart in talking movies, but for the most part it seems like much of the opinions here are mostly based on a kind of checklist of things from the comics people want to see. And I don't feel like I'm a part of that. I like superheroes. I grew up with them. I love movies. I love comic books. I like storytelling. In general. And Joss Whedon making the movie he wanted to, instead of a 'movie which brings the Marvel Universe forward' (who cares: the big picture is fun, but I don't watch these movies for the big picture, as if they were just the latest episode of a TV series, I watch them to see - hopefully - great flicks!). And damn if I didn't enjoy this one. And I didn't even love the first Avengers movie, which to me felt more like a fanboy-dream come true, and a 'season finale', rather than a great stand-alone flick.

So I'm surprised how this is getting less love than the previous one. Joss Whedon, who I didn't regard as my God, did a bang up job on this one. Avengers: Age of Ultron is fun, smart, moody, and stretches the characters and storyline in unexpected and exciting directions.

Why SHOULDN'T there be a kind of romantic subplot between Bruce Banner and Natasha? What's so stupid about her being sterilized. It's nice to see the makers bring humanity (REAL humanity) into the movies, and flesh them out, which I think is much more important than spending endless time on making fanboys squeam with yet another comic book reference. And there were plenty of them!

Bravo, Whedon, for making the movie you wanted to!

You are awesome. ..

 

[darkslayer101]

I used to post a lot more on these forums, and there's a reason for that. When I read stuff like 'it seems like this time Joss Whedon made the movie he wanted to, but shouldn't have' and 'Black Widow's sterilization being stupid and seemingly out of something like Days of our Lives' I lose interest in discussing what I think we're discussing here: movies.

And I don't want to generalize. There are lots of interesting users who are smart in talking movies, but for the most part it seems like much of the opinions here are mostly based on a kind of checklist of things from the comics people want to see. And I don't feel like I'm a part of that. I like superheroes. I grew up with them. I love movies. I love comic books. I like storytelling. In general. And Joss Whedon making the movie he wanted to, instead of a 'movie which brings the Marvel Universe forward' (who cares: the big picture is fun, but I don't watch these movies for the big picture, as if they were just the latest episode of a TV series, I watch them to see - hopefully - great flicks!). And damn if I didn't enjoy this one. And I didn't even love the first Avengers movie, which to me felt more like a fanboy-dream come true, and a 'season finale', rather than a great stand-alone flick.

So I'm surprised how this is getting less love than the previous one. Joss Whedon, who I didn't regard as my God, did a bang up job on this one. Avengers: Age of Ultron is fun, smart, moody, and stretches the characters and storyline in unexpected and exciting directions.

Why SHOULDN'T there be a kind of romantic subplot between Bruce Banner and Natasha? What's so stupid about her being sterilized. It's nice to see the makers bring humanity (REAL humanity) into the movies, and flesh them out, which I think is much more important than spending endless time on making fanboys squeam with yet another comic book reference. And there were plenty of them!

Bravo, Whedon, for making the movie you wanted to!

 

[Atharun]

One thing I noticed was the choreography of Cap's fighting was much more acrobatic than his previous iterations. I loved the fight choreography in Winter Soldier. Here he felt a bit "John Woo-ish". Not exactly a bad thing just seemed very jump and flippy.

As for everyone saying Natasha ans the sterilization thing. It was clearly explained, she said they sterilized them so they had nothing that can be viewed as more important than their assignments. It was pretty clearly not her being sterile, but rather her past as a killer was what made her view herself as a monster and her and Banner was one of the better parts of the movie IMO.

 

[TalismanRing]

"I adore you!"

Really, in what movie that Natasha has been in would she ever say that to any man? I don't buy Nat in love, not like this. A more subtle flirtation with Bruce, Natasha teasing him, but holding back and still maintaing some mystery about her feelings... That would've played so much better for me.

It felt very 90's BUFFY from those two. I liked it as two teens from high school, but here? Nah.

I thought the flirtation overall was a heavy handed in the movie, pushing too hard to make it a great doomed love already when we hadn't even seen the tentative baby steps into it.

But I had no problem with the "I adore you" line because she said that when normally she wouldn't because she was just about to betray him and knew that would hurt him. She knows what she's about to do is for the greater good but is stripping Bruce of his agency as hers had been stripped away to make her a monster against her will. Here she makes Bruce into the monster he doesn't want to be and has clearly decided against. This is why he leaves her at the end and not just the group. He now knows she would always choose being an Avenger over him even if it meant personal betrayal.

 

[Hunter Rider]

Quick question, during Thor's vision brought on by Wanda, was the hooded figure in it linked to the upcoming 3rd Thor film?

 

[thanos1990]

I used to post a lot more on these forums, and there's a reason for that. When I read stuff like 'it seems like this time Joss Whedon made the movie he wanted to, but shouldn't have' and 'Black Widow's sterilization being stupid and seemingly out of something like Days of our Lives' I lose interest in discussing what I think we're discussing here: movies.

And I don't want to generalize. There are lots of interesting users who are smart in talking movies, but for the most part it seems like much of the opinions here are mostly based on a kind of checklist of things from the comics people want to see. And I don't feel like I'm a part of that. I like superheroes. I grew up with them. I love movies. I love comic books. I like storytelling. In general. And Joss Whedon making the movie he wanted to, instead of a 'movie which brings the Marvel Universe forward' (who cares: the big picture is fun, but I don't watch these movies for the big picture, as if they were just the latest episode of a TV series, I watch them to see - hopefully - great flicks!). And damn if I didn't enjoy this one. And I didn't even love the first Avengers movie, which to me felt more like a fanboy-dream come true, and a 'season finale', rather than a great stand-alone flick.

So I'm surprised how this is getting less love than the previous one. Joss Whedon, who I didn't regard as my God, did a bang up job on this one. Avengers: Age of Ultron is fun, smart, moody, and stretches the characters and storyline in unexpected and exciting directions.

Why SHOULDN'T there be a kind of romantic subplot between Bruce Banner and Natasha? What's so stupid about her being sterilized. It's nice to see the makers bring humanity (REAL humanity) into the movies, and flesh them out, which I think is much more important than spending endless time on making fanboys squeam with yet another comic book reference. And there were plenty of them!

Bravo, Whedon, for making the movie you wanted to!

 

[Dark Raven]

Quick question, during Thor's vision brought on by Wanda, was the hooded figure in it linked to the upcoming 3rd Thor film?

At first I thought it was Corvus Glaive or possibly the Other (although he died in GOTG).

 

[John Locke]

I don't remember the hooded figure but I think it would have been revealed to be Loki.

 

[thanos1990]

I'm really surprised some of you love the banner/ widow love thing
You guys are awesome

 

[Leenie]

I've seen complaints about the way Whedon wrote the line, as if implying Natasha was a monster b/c she was sterilized... But I know what Whedon intended with it. She saw herself as a monster because she was a killer.

And that is nowhere on my complaints about Natasha's development in the movie.

Of course people were going to complain about that.

I took it as that she was trained to be a monster. So much so, in fact, that any form or opportunity of human interaction/compassion/appreciation for life was taken away from her (which is why she was sterilized). She was manufactured to be a killer, and she will forever live with the results of that life.

The movie obviously didn't say "Black Widow is a monster because she can't get pregnant!" If anyone interpreted it that way, then I'm assuming they didn't pay any attention to all of the other scenes of Natasha's training.

 

[Great Mind(s)]

Who is actually outraged?

Bill should have taken a cue from the black widow program. First thing I thought of

 

[Leenie]

I'm really surprised some of you love the banner/ widow love thing
You guys are awesome

I really like the idea of Natasha and Bruce together. I just wish it had been fleshed out more on Bruce's part. Natasha's character development in the relationship was well-done. I would have liked to have seen more focus on Bruce aside from "I can't be in love because 'The Lonely Man Theme.'"

I know that there are quite a few people upset that Natasha and Clint aren't a romantic couple, but ... I love their friendship so damn much. Makes me want a Budapest movie of the two of them to happen even more!

 

[Saturius]

I actually thought the Widow/Natasha story was actually very well done. And I don't know why people are saying it came out of nowhere. It's been a year since TWS and many things happened off screen. The team's been tearing up Hydra bases, they apparently have a process on whether Banner comes into the field(Code Green), there's been a a lullaby developed to pacify the Hulk, etc etc. I don't know why people have trouble following that these characters lives continue to progress after the credits role, and we're just not privy to it sometimes.

The problem isn't really whether something comes out of nowhere. It's mainly on how well it's presented and if you buy what's been told to you. I personally bought the Bruce/Natasha thing. The only part that I thought was a misstep is when they both actually talked and considered running off together at the farm. That reflected on them badly if they were gonna abandon the team, unless that was just a little mind game Widow was playing to keep Banner on the team.