Avengers: Doomsday General News & Discussion Thread

[Venom 1988]

Maybe the 5th trailer is for Shang-Chi! I miss that dude.

It won't be but it should be.

 

[psylockolussus]

Can't wait for the Superbowl trailer! I hope thats true!

 

[Venom 1988]

Aw rats. Look at those bad views when people online say that you're running a horrible marketing campaign. Gee, Marvel and Disney, you sure do suck tonight!

But really, it shows to go that no matter how good or bad fans think the MCU has been or the marketing for Doomsday is or isn't, they're going to watch the teasers in greater numbers than most of the other MCU films and be in theaters opening weekend.

It's bad because it's cheap bait not that it wouldn't be successful.

One can see why they're doing it as a smart business move and still criticize the laziness of it.

 

[psylockolussus]

I’m sorry to say that these teasers have just come off as lame to me. I guess if we had no MCU since Endgame, these would come across a bit more powerful. But it just feels desperate with all the new characters they’ve already built up.

And the Russo’s post-Endgame inspire no hope in me that they’ll be able to pull this off.

I hope for the best, but maybe this is where I feel like the people who go, “does anyone care about Avatar anymore?” and it goes on to make 2 billion.

I find the two clips boring but this strategy of small clips/small trailers is building the hype for the movie. These are basically teasers for a teaser trailer.

I'm hoping we get several more like eight more before the Superbowl trailer.
-Fantastic 4
-Wolverine
-Deadpool
-Spider-Man
-Doctor Strange
-Shang-Chi
-Wakanda
-Captain Marvel

 

[Broseph44]

Been watching all the leaks but seeing the official releases is obviously just a whole different thing. Absolutely love everything about this one.

 

[HammerDown]

Yeh this hit pretty hard for me as well. Not only because it’s Thor but because it simply resonated on more of a deeper and personal level.

 

[mclay18]

I think Disney and the Russos are going to have Doomsday in the can by its original May 2026 release date. They might tweak the VFX a bit and take their time with music and sound mixing, but they're going to be shooting Secret Wars this summer for December 2027 -- they, the actors and crew members need a bit of a cool down.

Plus that enables them to place a fresh trailer on Spider-Man: Brand New Day with scenes that will be fully rendered and in the actual film.

 

[KaijuDude1992]

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Im really hoping this is either a Shang Chi or Loki trailer considering both characters haven't been present in any of the trailers yet and unless you watched the chair announcement I doubt most people who don't follow this stuff online would even know they are coming back in the first place. Loki makes the most sense considering he's supposed to have a pretty big role in this but who knows at this point.

 

[The Batman]

This is the only trailer that got me even remotely interested in what the story might be. Thor might get the "retirony" treatment.

 

[Sithborg]

Thor's dialogue already trumps anything Waititi had him saying in Ragnarok and Love & Thunder.

Then again, the Russos already had a handle on Thor just based on Infinity War.

Just going to ignore what they did with Endgame Thor, then....

 

[TheVileOne]

I just can't see this underperforming. It's No Way Home and Deadpool & Wolverine on steroids.

People probably felt the same about Batman v Superman and Justice League which happened during peak comic book movie cinema.

 

[blackdragon6]

I just don't like that they seem to be reverting Thor to his IW version.

Wtf, really???

 

[psylockolussus]

Im really hoping this is either a Shang Chi or Loki trailer considering both characters haven't been present in any of the trailers yet and unless you watched the chair announcement I doubt most people who don't follow this stuff online would even know they are coming back in the first place. Loki makes the most sense considering he's supposed to have a pretty big role in this but who knows at this point.

I would be surprised by a Shang-Chi trailer. But I would like to see it.

 

[Hand Banana]

Except Logan happens in Deadpool's timeline.

I know. My point is that it always was.

 

[Hand Banana]

Expected reaction: "Daaaamn, the X-Men in the MCU!!! OMG"

Actual reaction: “... they're still making those?

Deadpool & Wolverine’s Box Office numbers suggest otherwise.

 

[HammerDown]

5 hours of the Thor teaser on Marvel’s YT channel.
3.7M views and 370.000 likes

19 hours
YT - 7.8M views / 512.000 likes

Twitter
Marvel Studios - 20M views / 357.000 likes
Marvel Entertainment - 3.8M / 96.000 likes
Chris Hemsworth - 3.1M / 184.000 likes

 

[Hand Banana]

People probably felt the same about Batman v Superman and Justice League which happened during peak comic book movie cinema.

They didn’t.

 

[OrbOfConfusion]

Just going to ignore what they did with Endgame Thor, then....

Fat Thor didn't annoy me to the level of Waititi-written Thor, honestly.

 

[The Batman]

People probably felt the same about Batman v Superman and Justice League which happened during peak comic book movie cinema.

This is false equivalence. Those movies came off of a polarizing, underperforming film to begin with. This is a big budget nostalgia fest, which is the main thing that's worked for post-endgame Marvel.

This may underperform, but comparing it to the DCEU doesn't make sense.

 

[OrbOfConfusion]

This is false equivalence. Those movies came off of a polarizing, underperforming film to begin with. This is a big budget nostalgia fest, which is the main thing that's worked for post-endgame Marvel.

This may underperform, but comparing it to the DCEU doesn't make sense.

Also, in the case of Justice League, Doomsday doesn't have the problem of a director leaving midway through due to a personal tragedy and the studio hiring a replacement to basically make a truncated version of said film with a Frankenstein of a tone.

 

[TheVileOne]

This is false equivalence. Those movies came off of a polarizing, underperforming film to begin with. This is a big budget nostalgia fest, which is the main thing that's worked for post-endgame Marvel.

This may underperform, but comparing it to the DCEU doesn't make sense.

No it's not. Before Batman v Superman, the hype for the film was massive.

 

[TheVileOne]

Also, in the case of Justice League, Doomsday doesn't have the problem of a director leaving midway through due to a personal tragedy and the studio hiring a replacement to basically make a truncated version of said film with a Frankenstein of a tone.

It does have a problem of multiple delays and multiple creative pivots. This movie was originally supposed to be called THE KANG DYNASTY.

 

[ReadyOReady]

Expected reaction: "Daaaamn, the X-Men in the MCU!!! OMG"

Actual reaction: “... they're still making those?

Highly doubtful

People probably felt the same about Batman v Superman and Justice League which happened during peak comic book movie cinema.

Those were bad movies though, and I highly doubt Doomsday is going to be anything like BvS or Justice League. I don't see Doomsday landing in that same space.

It does have a problem of multiple delays and multiple creative pivots. This movie was originally supposed to be called THE KANG DYNASTY

And how many people outside the comic book bubble even knew it was ever called Kang Dynasty?


The overwhelming majority of casual moviegoers, the ones who don’t watch everything Marvel but will always show up for an Avengers movie/event films, (the same kind of crowd that helped Deadpool & Wolverine hit $1.3B), the people who actually move box office, probably have no idea about the whole internal “Kang Dynasty” pivot history.

And even the ones who do know? They’re almost certainly not the majority.

They just see “Avengers Doomsday” and go, “Oh, the next Avengers movie. Yeah, I’m checking that out.”

It's that simple, and the box office will prove this once again.

 

[HammerDown]

19 hours
YT - 7.8M views / 512.000 likes

Twitter
Marvel Studios - 20M views / 357.000 likes
Marvel Entertainment - 3.8M / 96.000 likes
Chris Hemsworth - 3.1M / 184.000 likes

2 days
YT - 10.7M views / 591.000 likes

Twitter
Marvel Studios - 24M views / 379.000 likes
Marvel Entertainment - 4.7M / 104.000 likes
Chris Hemsworth - 3.9M / 205.000 likes

For comparison:
(Steve Rogers teaser / 9 days)
YT - 15M views / 871.000 likes

Twitter
Marvel Studios - 52M views / 534.000 likes
Marvel Entertainment - 9.6M / 142.000 likes

Great numbers for both but the Steve Rogers has a considerable advantage because it was the 1st teaser for Doomsday and “nobody” knew CA was coming back with a baby nonetheless, while we already had a Thor 4 and Hemsworth was actually the very first one to be announced as part of the cast for Doomsday a good while back.

 

[psylockolussus]

Highly doubtful

Those were bad movies though, and I highly doubt Doomsday is going to be anything like BvS or Justice League. I don't see Doomsday landing in that same space.



And how many people outside the comic book bubble even knew it was ever called Kang Dynasty?


The overwhelming majority of casual moviegoers, the ones who don’t watch everything Marvel but will always show up for an Avengers movie/event films, (the same kind of crowd that helped Deadpool & Wolverine hit $1.3B), the people who actually move box office, probably have no idea about the whole internal “Kang Dynasty” pivot history.

And even the ones who do know? They’re almost certainly not the majority.

They just see “Avengers Doomsday” and go, “Oh, the next Avengers movie. Yeah, I’m checking that out.”

It's that simple, and the box office will prove this once again.

Its going to be a big hit.