BLM Protests Across The World

[KRYPTON INC.]

For safety.

 

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What idiot is going to take on 4 armed cops when the whole point of these protests is how gung ho and reckless the cops have been when dealing with people.

Exactly. We saw a cop kneel on a guys neck until he died in the street. If the public tried to physically intervene it would not be unreasonable to believe someone as volatile as Chauvin may of harmed or killed them too.

There are law enforcement who don't care about public perception and believe the law does not apply to them.

 

[Snow Queen]

Additionally, assaulting a cop is it's own crime and is often treated as more severe than assaulting anyone else. I'm sure they'd throw the book at everyone involved in saving him if they didn't just kill them there.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

I just want to vent on this from a few posts up... Perhaps the Umbrella Man isn't the LEO that was ID'd initially.

Here's the thing, for those that would use this as some kind of "victory" to prove all along that the police are being victimized and that the real issue is crime in minority communities... Given all we've seen for days and days now... Why should I give the police the benefit of the doubt in this case? They are lying about why they are covering their badges. They lied about slashing tires for public safety. They lied when they said those Bufallo cops quit in solidarity when it was really all about legal coverage for their actions during the protests/riots. They are continually lying about their interactions with the press that has ended up with journalists being injured and maimed.


So... I and others should take this at face value, why?

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Everything people say about the blue wall of silence?

 

[Sithborg]

I have to say, these past few weeks have been a real education on how bad the Seattle PD is.

 

[InCali]

For safety.

I may not be as smart as the police, but if I wanted to disable a vehicle without causing financial hardships for people who, in general, are likely to be struggling anyway, I’m pretty sure there are these things called air valves and lug wrenches. Police intelligence isn’t an oxymoron, but, at least in some departments, human decency is.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

I have to say, these past few weeks have been a real education on how bad the Seattle PD is.

And I've seen many people take the existance of ****ty PD's in supposed bastions of Liberalism/Progressivism like Seattle and NYC as proof the leadership there is the root cause of bad policing and tragic interactions with the public and the cops.

Thing is it's way more complicated than that and unfortunately a huge issue is the public in general's perception and gut reaction to police. Before a week and a half ago I dare say that for a lot of Americans the halo placed around "first responders" after 9/11 was bright enough to blind them to the problems with policing in the country and the abuses and criminal acts too many took part in. The public itself was a big factor in allowing this to fester. Leaders in a Democratic Republic like ours are always gonna have a problem "leading" on some things. I wish it were different but those in government have to consider a whole host of other factors and not just one issue, even if it's an important one. Public sentiment or what is tauted as public sentiment can be a powerful roadblock to any reforms.

This has been going on for a long time now. So even "hippy dippy" Seattle unfortunately is also filled with a lot of police that have never been told "NO" or held to account for violating the rights of the citizenry.

And in regards to that story specifically... Who was served and what was protected by nearling killing that woman?

 

[Sithborg]

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[DarthSkywalker]

I have to say, these past few weeks have been a real education on how bad the Seattle PD is.

What the ****? Seriously what the ****? They just keep doing worse and worse ****, and no one is doing a thing.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

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How about the ****ing police act peacefully, you awful human being?

 

[Marvolo]

The way I see it currently is the American police have a loooooooooonnnnnnnggggggggg butcher's bill to pay. And the American people are ready to collect. So maybe when thousands of cops have been beaten, shot, and murdered every year for decades then they can whine about being victimized. Right now during these protests they should take their licks and think about how we got to this point, and think about how they can improve things for everyone, and not only themselves.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

The way I see it currently is the American police have a loooooooooonnnnnnnggggggggg butcher's bill to pay. And Americans are ready to collect. So maybe when thousands of cops have been beaten, shot, and murdered then they can whine about being victimized. Until then they should take their licks and think about how they can find common ground with the people.

The issue is, they want to look like the victims. Because too many Americans have bought into the idea of mostly good cops. Cops don't want peace right now. They want the violence, and are the ones starting it.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

Worse, if inevitable, the attitude on display is one of impugnity. They are striking at all groups all at once and not just African Amerians or Latino Americans as though they are untouchable. Why do they feel they aren't gonna catch hell for all the heinous **** they've done?

Simple... We the American public have let them get away with this via one way or another.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

And to show how race is just the start of this conversation about LOEs/qualified immunity/police interations with the public/budgets for Departments and yes, systemic racial bias, here's one from 2011 to show how the background of the LOE and the victim can be switched up but the example doesn't change... Police brutality administered at the drop of a hat far beyond a proportional response.

Death of Kelly Thomas - Wikipedia

A judge declined to dismiss the charges against the officers in January 2013, finding that "a reasonable person could infer that the use of force was excessive and unreasonable." An appeals court judge also denied a request to overturn the lower court's decision. On January 13, 2014, Ramos and Cicinelli were found not guilty of all charges, while the trial for Wolfe was pending. Following the verdict for the two officers, the district attorney's office announced it would not pursue the case against Wolfe. On January 17, 2014, charges against Wolfe were dropped.

As summarized by the Orange County Register in 2020, "the name Kelly Thomas has become synonymous with police brutality and a rallying cry for reforms in how law enforcement treats the homeless."






The victim here was white... But he was a homeless person battling mental illness. In life he was invisible and powerless to all of us and the powers that be.

 

[Marvolo]

And to show how race is just the start of this conversation about LOEs/qualified immunity/police interations with the public/budgets for Departments and yes, systemic racial bias, here's one from 2011 to show how the background of the LOE and the victim can be switched up but the example doesn't change... Police brutality administered at the drop of a hat far beyond a proportional response.

Death of Kelly Thomas - Wikipedia

A judge declined to dismiss the charges against the officers in January 2013, finding that "a reasonable person could infer that the use of force was excessive and unreasonable." An appeals court judge also denied a request to overturn the lower court's decision. On January 13, 2014, Ramos and Cicinelli were found not guilty of all charges, while the trial for Wolfe was pending. Following the verdict for the two officers, the district attorney's office announced it would not pursue the case against Wolfe. On January 17, 2014, charges against Wolfe were dropped.

As summarized by the Orange County Register in 2020, "the name Kelly Thomas has become synonymous with police brutality and a rallying cry for reforms in how law enforcement treats the homeless."






The victim here was white... But he was a homeless person battling mental illness. In life he was invisible and powerless to all of us and the powers that be.

I consider it a good show of restraint from americans that monsters like those SOBs that beat Kelly Thomas to death arent currently being hunted down and hanged in the streets. Because that's exactly what would be happening if these protests were half as bloodthirsty and lawless as the Right and Law Enforcement claims.

I think law enforcement, city leaders, and politicians in America should look to the Troubles in Ireland for an example of how this could end up going. And really consider how far they want to push Americans and how much they want to refuse to budge.

Anyone that's never read about The Troubles should do so:

The Troubles - Wikipedia

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

I consider it a good show of restraint from americans that monsters like those SOBs that beat Kelly Thomas to death arent currently being hunted down and hanged in the streets. Because that's exactly what would be happening if these protests were half as bloodthirsty and lawless as the Right and Law Enforcement claims.

I think law enforcement, city leaders, and politicians in America should look to the Troubles in Ireland for an example of how this could end up going. And really consider how far they want to push Americans and how much they want to refuse to budge.

Damn... Marv I hadn't thought of this in that way but I think you are on to something.

Especially considering how far the police were willing to take things over the last week and a half. I mean, if the point is to intimidate their own communities with such egregious actions, that may well boomerang on them and all of us.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

A very good and adult read:

 

[Flint Marko]

I know it’s probably been expressed here before but I really, really hope these protests don’t stop any time soon.

There’s so much progress to be made and our elected officials can only be counted on to look after their own tuches so I think it’s going to take months and months of this for any measurable change to occur.

 

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They truely do behave like a gang.

 

[Zorro]

A very good and adult read:

Not so surprising but still shocking and all kinds of messed up. It's a lot of police officers in general than a single department in a bad town

 

[Gee]

Just saw the footage of Martin Gugino...

 

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[Zorro]

Oh c,mon. Just ****ing admit it was wrong and shouldn't have happened. They keep trying to make the old man into a villain when his past is already known as a peace activist. ANTIFA my ass!