BLM Protests Across The World

Some good points raised in that thread. I too had wondered what made this so different from others. And she’s right. It’s the fact that we got to see it all play out for an extended amount of time.

This was a good point too...

 
Seattle Police Officers Guild expelled from county’s largest labor council

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It finally happened. The Rhode Must Fall campaign combined with these BLM protests finally got Oxford University College Governors to vote for the imperialist/white nationalist Cecil Rhodes statue to come down from the facade of Oriel College.

The local council also wanted the statue down and welcomed the decision.
Oxford college wants to remove Rhodes statue
 
It finally happened. The Rhode Must Fall campaign combined with these BLM protests finally got Oxford University College Governors to vote for the imperialist/white nationalist Cecil Rhodes statue to come down from the facade of Oriel College.

The local council also wanted the statue down and welcomed the decision.
Oxford college wants to remove Rhodes statue
Is this who the Rhodes scholarship is named after?
 
Is this who the Rhodes scholarship is named after?
Yes.

Rhodes was an imperialist, businessman and politician who played a dominant role in southern Africa in the late 19th Century, driving the annexation of vast swathes of land. Rhodes helped prepare the way for apartheid by working to alter laws on voting and land ownership. As prime minister of the Cape Colony, from 1890 to 1896, when his government effectively restricted the rights of black Africans by raising the financial qualifications for voting.

Rhodes also backed the disastrous Jameson Raid of 1895, in which a small British force tried to overthrow Paul Kruger, the Afrikaner president of the gold-rich Transvaal Republic. The raid helped prompt the Second Boer War, in which tens of thousands died.

He founded the De Beers diamond firm which until recently controlled the global trade. Scholarships allowing overseas students to come to Oxford University still bear his name. Many institutions, including Cape Town University itself, benefited from his largesse. Both Southern Rhodesia (now Zimbabwe) and Northern Rhodesia (now Zambia) were named after him.

Rhodes was a full on white nationalist and had a comic book villain desire for global domination. Rhodes believed English people were the master race and should rule the world. His famous desire was to be able to draw a "red line" from Cairo to Cape Town, building a railway across the entire continent of Africa without ever leaving British territory.

Direct quotes from Rhodes
"I contend that we are the first race in the world, and that the more of the world we inhabit the better it is for the human race,"

"Why should we not form a secret society with but one object, "the furtherance of the British Empire and the bringing of the whole world under British rule, for the recovery of the United States, for making the Anglo-Saxon race but one Empire?"
 
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Some good points raised in that thread. I too had wondered what made this so different from others. And she’s right. It’s the fact that we got to see it all play out for an extended amount of time.

This was a good point too...



In the case of Floyd I think it's a mix of the length of the murder and the manner of death. Floyd didnt die quick. He wasnt quickly shot from a distance and killed. It cant be sanitized with procedure or commentary. He was helpless, and he knew it. He died afraid, and feeling trapped. Most people have at one point in their life felt that feeling of complete helplessness and fear. It's hard to watch the video and not to some degree relate to his last moments. To sympathize with what he must have been feeling. Then there is the fact that the cop choked him to death. Strangulation is an extremely intimate manner of killing someone. It's a lot harder to watch a human be slowly strangled to death than it is to watch a human get shot in the head and fall dead.

For me personally it's the manner of death that hits me hardest. I've been trapped in a machine. No one could hear me or see me. I was screaming for help waiting for my arm to snap and be ripped off. I felt my arm bending slowly and break. All I could do was lay on the ground under the machine and scream and watch it happen. It's the most terrifying and longest minutes of my life. On top of that I've never been able to handle being held down. I go into a panic and never could horseplay as a kid and still cant stand it as an adult. So I dont have to imagine too hard to know how trapped and afraid Floyd must have felt. Then I just think about the fact that he couldnt even scream and that the thing trapping him was not going to allow anyone to help. It's the stuff of nightmares for me and George Floyd's last moments were spent in that nightmare.
 
Yes.

Rhodes was an imperialist, businessman and politician who played a dominant role in southern Africa in the late 19th Century, driving the annexation of vast swathes of land. Rhodes helped prepare the way for apartheid by working to alter laws on voting and land ownership. As prime minister of the Cape Colony, from 1890 to 1896, when his government effectively restricted the rights of black Africans by raising the financial qualifications for voting.

Rhodes also backed the disastrous Jameson Raid of 1895, in which a small British force tried to overthrow Paul Kruger, the Afrikaner president of the gold-rich Transvaal Republic. The raid helped prompt the Second Boer War, in which tens of thousands died.

He founded the De Beers diamond firm which until recently controlled the global trade. Scholarships allowing overseas students to come to Oxford University still bear his name. Many institutions, including Cape Town University itself, benefited from his largesse. Both Southern Rhodesia (now Zimbabwe) and Northern Rhodesia (now Zambia) were named after him.

Rhodes was a full on white nationalist and had a comic book villain desire for global domination. Rhodes believed English people were the master race and should rule the world. His famous desire was to be able to draw a "red line" from Cairo to Cape Town, building a railway across the entire continent of Africa without ever leaving British territory.

Direct quotes from Rhodes

Im pretty sure what he expressed in those quotes was the standard thinking and standard operating procedure in the british empire before WW1.
 
Im pretty sure what he expressed in those quotes was the standard thinking and standard operating procedure in the british empire before WW1.
Nah. Rhodes was controversial even in his own life time. Rhodes was a freemason and believed the organization should of used its influence to bring about British rule across the world.

Rhodes was dropping racial slurs like crazy when the Botswana kings didn't bend to his will and went to the British government for help.

Guys who got rich exploiting Africa and it's people like Rhodes and Colston brought their reputation and 'good standing' with their charitable blood money.

A lot of British were in favor of colonialism but not imperialism. People conflate the two but they are distinctly different things.
 
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In the case of Floyd I think it's a mix of the length of the murder and the manner of death. Floyd didnt die quick. He wasnt quickly shot from a distance and killed. It cant be sanitized with procedure or commentary. He was helpless, and he knew it. He died afraid, and feeling trapped. Most people have at one point in their life felt that feeling of complete helplessness and fear. It's hard to watch the video and not to some degree relate to his last moments. To sympathize with what he must have been feeling. Then there is the fact that the cop choked him to death. Strangulation is an extremely intimate manner of killing someone. It's a lot harder to watch a human be slowly strangled to death than it is to watch a human get shot in the head and fall dead.

For me personally it's the manner of death that hits me hardest. I've been trapped in a machine. No one could hear me or see me. I was screaming for help waiting for my arm to snap and be ripped off. I felt my arm bending slowly and break. All I could do was lay on the ground under the machine and scream and watch it happen. It's the most terrifying and longest minutes of my life. On top of that I've never been able to handle being held down. I go into a panic and never could horseplay as a kid and still cant stand it as an adult. So I dont have to imagine too hard to know how trapped and afraid Floyd must have felt. Then I just think about the fact that he couldnt even scream and that the thing trapping him was not going to allow anyone to help. It's the stuff of nightmares for me and George Floyd's last moments were spent in that nightmare.

Right. It certainly is more intimate and perhaps easier for people to put themselves in that position when it comes to their imaginations.

Honestly, all the killings have made me jaded and I never imagined protests happening like what we’ve seen today. Mostly due to the general indifference the system has shown for these types of things. As said in those tweets, this stuff has happened time and again. So, it was very surprising to see how much has happened, what’s changed, and what appears will change (in some cities).
 
How is anyone saying he hasn’t made the country more divided. Even if you love him that is just a fact.
 
A guy I used to be friendly with in high school started a fundraiser on Facebook for the officer who shot Rayshard Brooks.

He’s trying to raise 50K and has $210 so far.
 

I wonder if their property insurance covers incendiary renovation and reappropriation of public property by civilians? :o
 

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