Can anyone sumarize the season?

Eddie Brock Jr. said:
all the Zod's and Fallout's in the world can't make up for Wither, Static, and Subterranean

Wither is one of the better Smallville Episodes, not only of the season, but the series in general.
 
StorminNorman said:
Wither is one of the better Smallville Episodes, not only of the season, but the series in general.

whither?

i disagree. it was decent, but nowhere near relic, rosetta, lexmas, pariah, covenant, reckoning, etc.
 
Not the best of the series, but man I did enjoy it quite a bit; cheezy plant effects aside.
 
StorminNorman said:
Wither is one of the better Smallville Episodes, not only of the season, but the series in general.
not even close....

"Oh no! She's a plant villain and there's no way I can possibly stop her! She will overgrow the Earth! Woe is me! Oh wait....look at that, I killed her in .0002 nanoseconds...that was easy."
 
Eddie Brock Jr. said:
not even close....

"Oh no! She's a plant villain and there's no way I can possibly stop her! She will overgrow the Earth! Woe is me! Oh wait....look at that, I killed her in .0002 nanoseconds...that was easy."

She was a freaking Poison Ivy rip-off, What next a Catwoman rip-off . Son Of A ***** :cmad:
 
StorminNorman said:
Wither is one of the better Smallville Episodes, not only of the season, but the series in general.

:wow: Words...won't...suffice...
 
Wither wasnt that great but I dont understand all the hate towards Static? I guess ppl here still cant get over the fact Lana and Lex are together...
 
tonytr1687 said:
Wither wasn't that great but I don't understand all the hate towards Static? I guess ppl here still cant get over the fact Lana and Lex are together...
First off, it's not just people "here," and secondly, if you read people's comments after the ep aired, you'd understand complaints about the Lana and Lex pairing were minimal compared to...

1. the lack of focus on what *should* have been the A Plot...
2. a ridiculous FOTW who took center stage over...
3. the "real" guest star whom everybody was looking forward to see (Batista)...
4. who was an actual PZ criminal and more entertaining than...
5. Lex getting kidnapped, aye-freakin-gain...
6. but had less screen time than what was shown in the CW director's cut...
7. and who wasn't even offed by Clark in an awesome episode-ending battle.
8. Jimmy's out-of-nowhere ham radio expertise...
9. and subsequent ability with the help of SuperChloe to get tons of gear into Lex's mansion, and...
10. a schizo Lana whom the writers should have been shot for characterizing in such a dumbass way.

Folks can add to the list of everything that was foul about Static, but that pretty much covers the brunt of my complaints. Unlike other fair weather fans, I'll defend SV till the cows come home, but this episode was just plain baaaaad, which is a crying shame because I was incredibly psyched to see it. :mad:
 
AgentPat said:
Folks can add to the list of everything that was foul about Static, but that pretty much covers the brunt of my complaints. Unlike other fair weather fans, I'll defend SV till the cows come home, but this episode was just plain baaaaad, which is a crying shame because I was incredibly psyched to see it. :mad:

11. Sentimental, romantic Lex who was just so out of character it was laughable.
 
AgentPat said:
10. a schizo Lana whom the writers should have been shot for characterizing in such a dumbass way.

IMO, that's been happening since around sometime in Season 3...

Anyway, Wither wasn't that good. It wasn't that bad, either; overall, it was pretty much forgettable.

Sometimes Smallville can be really dumb, and I think that Wither was a fine example of that. Dumb plot, uninteresting (and PREDICTIBLE) villain...among other things.
 
Take this from a long time Smallville fan. If they could just kill off Clark and then use him as a martyr to drive a Justice League type spin-off, it would really help the show pick up.
 
tonytr1687 said:
Wither wasnt that great but I dont understand all the hate towards Static? I guess ppl here still cant get over the fact Lana and Lex are together...
it was never about the fact that Lex/Lana are together
it's about the fact that Clark was shown for like 5 mins
it's about the fact that Lana is so phony
it's about the fact that Jimmy saves the day
it's about the fact that the writers never come back to the fact that Lex stabbed the FOTW
 
AgentPat said:
First off, it's not just people "here," and secondly, if you read people's comments after the ep aired, you'd understand complaints about the Lana and Lex pairing were minimal compared to...

1. the lack of focus on what *should* have been the A Plot...
2. a ridiculous FOTW who took center stage over...
3. the "real" guest star whom everybody was looking forward to see (Batista)...
4. who was an actual PZ criminal and more entertaining than...
5. Lex getting kidnapped, aye-freakin-gain...
6. but had less screen time than what was shown in the CW director's cut...
7. and who wasn't even offed by Clark in an awesome episode-ending battle.
8. Jimmy's out-of-nowhere ham radio expertise...
9. and subsequent ability with the help of SuperChloe to get tons of gear into Lex's mansion, and...
10. a schizo Lana whom the writers should have been shot for characterizing in such a dumbass way.

Folks can add to the list of everything that was foul about Static, but that pretty much covers the brunt of my complaints. Unlike other fair weather fans, I'll defend SV till the cows come home, but this episode was just plain baaaaad, which is a crying shame because I was incredibly psyched to see it. :mad:

1. I didn't find Clark's subplot all that interesting...
2. Agreed. Another FOTW is never a good thing
3. Everyone was looking forward to seeing a wrestler demonstrate ****ty acting?
4. Entertaining? He grunted and growled. Whoop-dee-doo!
5. I actually the feel the constant kidnappings and gunshots have a purpose: to make Lex more bitter and more cynical about humanity than he already is
6. Didnt see the directors cut
7. Well even if the Clark/Batista plot was front and center there still wouldnt have been a big battle b/c...what about Martian Manhunter?
8. Agreed. That was silly
9. Again, agreed
10. First off, you obviously do not know the definition of schizophrenia. Second, what was so crazy about her behavior? Sure, she had become suspicious of Lex, but just b/c they were having differences doesnt mean she's not gonna miss him dearly when he gets kidnapped. This is how ppl are in the real world. Theyre complicated. They contradict themselves. They have varying emotions. Theyre hipocrites. People complained b/c she had been mad at him and then when he gets kidnapped she goes back to being all lovey-dovey towards him. Well guess what...thats usually what happens. Something bad happens to a loved one and you realize how much you cared for them in the first place. It's called character progression. Lana isnt gonna stay in the same mode of behavior the whole episode, especially if something like that happens.

I simply enjoyed the episode b/c 33.1 was finally brought back. And I happen to enjoy watching big events happening, like say Lex finding out about Lana's pregnancy. Or, I dunno, Lex proposing to Lana in a big cliffhanger. Those things made this more than just another FOTW episode. The reason Clark's story was relegated to the background was b/c there wasnt much significance to it. Sure, he confronts another Zoner but it's obvious the guy wasnt an important character. The only purpose for that plotline was to fill up time and have Clark encounter Martian Manhunter.
 
Eddie Brock Jr. said:
it was never about the fact that Lex/Lana are together
it's about the fact that Clark was shown for like 5 mins
it's about the fact that Lana is so phony
it's about the fact that Jimmy saves the day
it's about the fact that the writers never come back to the fact that Lex stabbed the FOTW

Clark is the lead on the show in almost every episode. Is it really gonna kill you all to have him in the background for just one episode? Lana phony? Thats your opinion...

I agree about the others.
 
avidreader said:
11. Sentimental, romantic Lex who was just so out of character it was laughable.

Lex is a multi-layered character. He's gonna have his soft moments just like every other human being. No person is completely evil except for sociopaths, which Lex is obviously not. If you want a cackling, one-dimensional villian watch something else.
 
tonytr1687 said:
Clark is the lead on the show in almost every episode. Is it really gonna kill you all to have him in the background for just one episode? Lana phony? Thats your opinion...

I agree about the others.
Clark is the lead on the show....because IT'S A SHOW ABOUT HIM AND HIS LIFE BEFORE SUPERMAN
if i wanted a show where Lex and Lana were the center of the episode, well....i wouldn't, but nonetheless.....

not to mention that, much like the Wither villain, this was yet another "woe is me! he's too strong!" Phantom Zone criminal who was defeated instantly (albeit by MM)
 
tonytr1687 said:
Lex is a multi-layered character. He's gonna have his soft moments just like every other human being. No person is completely evil except for sociopaths, which Lex is obviously not. If you want a cackling, one-dimensional villian watch something else.

I dont recall saying anywhere that I wanted a one dimensional cackling villain, but I dont want to see a soppy, lovesick puppy either.

That episode defied everything that they had set up with Lex's character between Vessel and Rage. Lex is definitely on his way to being a sociopath.

But you know something, I dont even watch the show for Lex. Over the last two to three seasons he's become my least favourite character. I find his scenes a real snorathon and I wouldnt care if he disappeared tomorrow and never returned to Smallville. So I dont need to tune into something else.

Its Clark's story that I'm interested in and what effect the other characters have on him.
 
tonytr1687 said:
Clark is the lead on the show in almost every episode. Is it really gonna kill you all to have him in the background for just one episode? Lana phony? Thats your opinion...

It may not have mattered for just one episode, if he hadnt been sidelined for all the prior episodes up until that one as well.
 
tonytr1687 said:
...If you want a cackling, one-dimensional villain watch something else.
Wrooooong!

Ooopz. Sorry. Wrong franchise.... :O

Schizophrenia: a state characterized by the coexistence of contradictory or incompatible elements.

Uh... yeah, I believe I used the right noun in this case. Lana was a froot loop in Static. And even some of the most dyed in the wool Lana fans have agreed to that assertion. YMMV.

Dude, you said you didn't understand all the hate towards Static and made some global assumption that it was because people didn't like the Lex/Lana ship. I gave you a list of complaints that were noted by others fans, many of which I agreed with. It's okay if you disagree with the points made, but your opinion doesn't change the fact that a lot of people here and elsewhere absolutely loathed Static, and it wasn't even "Lexana" that had much to do with it. To wit...

avidreader said:
But you know something, I dont even watch the show for Lex. Over the last two to three seasons he's become my least favorite character. I find his scenes a real snorathon and I wouldn't care if he disappeared tomorrow and never returned to Smallville. So I dont need to tune into something else.

Its Clark's story that I'm interested in and what effect the other characters have on him.
Bravo! Lex, Lana, Chloe, Lois, Martha, Lionel... they ALL have relevance to Clark, his journey and his eventual destiny, but I don't watch the show for *their* subplots, I watch it for CLARK! Any episode where Clark is relegated to ten minutes of B-Plot while Chloe and Jimmy are off showing up Batman in detective skillz, and Lana pines for a Woobie Lex - whose only been missing for six hours - is gonna find its way to the bottom of my SV love list for that season.
 
I dun care what anybody says, Im still not sure why Lana is interested in Lex, besides his money ofcourse. Lex seems to only like lana for her looks, i have know idea why their together. Its the same feeling it get when Lana and Clark were "dateing" early on last year, they had nothing in common either.
 
Eros said:
I dun care what anybody says, Im still not sure why Lana is interested in Lex, besides his money ofcourse. Lex seems to only like lana for her looks, i have know idea why their together. Its the same feeling it get when Lana and Clark were "dating" early on last year, they had nothing in common either.
I think it comes down to Lex wanting what Clark had or has. Lex has coveted everything from Clark's hair to the love Clark received from his parents. Lana is just another notch in the game of one-upmanship that Lex has subconsciously been playing with Clark since the moment they met. That aspect of Lex's psyche makes him very interesting because it roots his nefarious activities within a blanket of jealousy, deceit and personal gratification. Clark couldn't be more diametrically opposed to such behavior, yet the two become metaphoric bookends later in life as they both endeavor to "save" the world from itself. :D
 
AgentPat said:
Wrooooong!

Ooopz. Sorry. Wrong franchise.... :O

Schizophrenia: a state characterized by the coexistence of contradictory or incompatible elements.

Uh... yeah, I believe I used the right noun in this case. Lana was a froot loop in Static. And even some of the most dyed in the wool Lana fans have agreed to that assertion. YMMV.

Dude, you said you didn't understand all the hate towards Static and made some global assumption that it was because people didn't like the Lex/Lana ship. I gave you a list of complaints that were noted by others fans, many of which I agreed with. It's okay if you disagree with the points made, but your opinion doesn't change the fact that a lot of people here and elsewhere absolutely loathed Static, and it wasn't even "Lexana" that had much to do with it. To wit...

Bravo! Lex, Lana, Chloe, Lois, Martha, Lionel... they ALL have relevance to Clark, his journey and his eventual destiny, but I don't watch the show for *their* subplots, I watch it for CLARK! Any episode where Clark is relegated to ten minutes of B-Plot while Chloe and Jimmy are off showing up Batman in detective skillz, and Lana pines for a Woobie Lex - whose only been missing for six hours - is gonna find its way to the bottom of my SV love list for that season.


mmmm fruit loops. maybe when im done eating i'll use the last of the fruit loop flavored water to put out all the flames.:o

you get drawn up into this too easily pat, you should wear your helmet more often.
 
Kaboom said:
mmmm fruit loops. maybe when im done eating i'll use the last of the fruit loop flavored water to put out all the flames.:o

you get drawn up into this too easily pat, you should wear your helmet more often.
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^ Pat, after too much egg nog. :O



Merry X-mas! :D
 
AgentPat said:
I think it comes down to Lex wanting what Clark had or has. Lex has coveted everything from Clark's hair to the love Clark received from his parents. Lana is just another notch in the game of one-upmanship that Lex has subconsciously been playing with Clark since the moment they met. That aspect of Lex's psyche makes him very interesting because it roots his nefarious activities within a blanket of jealousy, deceit and personal gratification. . :D

You know that's the only Lex I'm interested in watching, and I thought that this was what they were building to, and then it all came crashing down in Static. Aaarrgghhh!!!

^ Pat, after too much egg nog. :O

What I wouldnt give for some egg nog. I'm in Salt Lake City and no one told me that the only alcohol that I could buy in the store was Beer. :cmad:
 

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