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Comic Book Purchases and Thoughts for March 19th

Very true. Plus, he actually seemed to return interest in Korg. Oh, silly horny gay aliens.
 
TheCorpulent1 said:
But... why? Why not just ditch Earth--which has to have one of the highest ratios of super-powered beings per capita of any planet ever--for some quieter, more easily subjugated world? Why risk literally the last remnants of your race trying to take over a planet that's fought tenaciously and won against not only you, but several other alien empires simultaneously before? Talk about biting off more than they can chew.
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It makes about as much sense as aliens who can be destroyed by water deciding to invade a planet that is 75% water...oh, wait, that was SIGNS. :o

It is kind of like, if America wanted to attack ANY rogue nation run by a despot who oppressed his own people and posed a potential threat to America or American interests after 9/11 and the start of the war against the Taliban via seeming ownership of WMD or aiding other terrorists, there were other targets than Iraq. Just the administration and past ones had invested interests into Iraq for a while (even Clinton engaged in antics with Iraq), including a prior war, so it was probably decided to finish the job.

There are better targets for the Skrulls. But perhaps they already have invested time and effort, and honor, into invading Earth, that now they figure, hey, we REALLY mean it. Besides, if a fleet of ships basically showed up to claim their stranded agents while they sought out another world, that wouldn't sell 7 issues of Bendisness. Although it could; lot of talking.

Hulkling is a good theory, too. The Avengers often have seemed to take a pro-Kree stance and have had Kree powered or allied heroes in their ranks, so the Skrulls may see Earth as a "sorta ally" of the Kree (and the Shi'ar I may add, who no one likes) and another chance to spite their old enemies. Plus, the Skrulls are desperate, most likely.

It does seem illogical, though, I agree. But then so do many "events" if you really pick them apart. They exist to provide shocks, sales, and retcons, not actual stories most times. I mean if the forces of Earth wanted to fight Hulk logically, WWH would have been 3 issues tops. :p

Themanofbat said:
I did not like OMD for a second... at times, the art was nice, but the story was pure garbage, in my opinion.

Having said that, all I wanted to point out to all the anti-BND/JQ haters was that this was not a JQ agenda, but one that Marvel has wanted for at least 15 years... and it got to the point that they didn't want to drag it out any longer.

The way they went about it was very DC... and it was embarrasing to read... but the bottom line is they are now in a position that they wanted, and they are going to pelt us with good creative teams to keep the sales at least on par with what they had, and as time goes on, and the complainers die off, and new generations of Spidey readers emerge, they will be able to read "classic" Spidey like many of us did as Spidey readers of the 60's & 70's & 80's... myself commencing in 1975, being a fan thanks largely in part to the 67' cartoon that was always played on one of the local tv stations in syndication throughout the 70's and early 80's.

I don't think we're going to be seeing the start of the "generic" Spider-Man/Archie wanna-be where nothing happens nor evolves... the books (thus far) have a nice retro feel, but yet still maintain (in my opinion) a good modern feel... I do believe that we will see growth in the character, just not in an aging manner...

Then again, this is all my opinion on the matter as well.

And for the record, I believe Marvel's last attempt to seperate Peter & MJ was when they led us to believe that MJ was killed in ASM #454, only to have her return in ASM #470 when nobody believed that she was actually dead.

:yay:
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Yes, and then after MJ was found alive, she and Peter split up. They weren't divorced, but were seperated. It was awkward but in some ways not as unrealistic as annulments from Satan. Plenty of couples go through "trial seperation" before a divorce, especially after years of marriage (even in "Marvel Time", by that point the Parkers had to have been a couple for at least 4 years or so). This was 2001, and Joe Q was at the helm.

But the movie was coming in 2002, promising Peter/MJ shipping. And faster than you can say KA-CHING, suddenly seperating the Parkers wasn't nearly as important as pleasing the fans and cashing some movie-fan generated checks. If Joe Q was really serious about putting his foot down on a storyline that Spidey writers/editors seemingly hated, he would have stood firm in 2001 when the Parkers were split, and it wouldn't have taken as much effort to divorce them.

I suppose you could argue that Joe Q as EIC in 2001 is not comparable as Joe Q as EIC in 2007 because of 6 years of experience. Fair enough. But then look at the manner chosen.

A divorce, set in reality and made emotionally real and raw, is harder to undo in the "oh, we were just kidding" manner that comic books often use to pull a 180 when times get hard and they want to return to a status quo (look how fast DC killed off Bart and got Mark Waid back on FLASH when **** went badly). A Mephisto annulment could, in theory, be reversed with a Defenders adventure into his realm for all we know. People could "re-remember" stuff and suddenly stuff is "shocking" and "new" again. Stories like OMD are stories that cement that paying strict attention for 5, 10, 20 years is all for nothing because at a moment's notice, the editorial climate could change and stuff is erased completely from the continuity when it suits the Powers-That-Be's interests. And that is a bad example to set for an entire industry that not only relies on fans who have been around 5-20 years, but DESPERATELY SO, to the point of cynical exploitation to make up for being unable to gain new readers.

Of course, BND is doing well, so we won't have to worry about a "we were just kidding" moment now, or even in the next 5-10 years. But Joe Q won't be EIC forever. Much as DC is run by guys with a fetish for the Silver Age, for all we know Marvel will be run by a guy with a fetish for the 80's-90's who wants to bring that all back. Maybe ASM's sales will be down by then. And then another cynical storyline is planned for the almighty dollar.

OMD is merely a representation of all that is wrong with the comic business, a wrong that fans all know in their minds but emotionally ignore until it comes to a head, like with this or IC or whatever sorts of stories (some market watchers even blame DEATH OF SUPERMAN for helping pop the comic bubble in the early 90's). OMD merely proves how nothing long-term lasts in comics, so we all are wasting our time bothering. That it was merely the latest shark out of the aquarium of sharks the Spider-Man franchise has hopped was only the icing on the cake.

The worst bit is taking a status quo that is recycled from 1971 and daring to call it "Brand New". Pfft. That's as new as corporate greed.

Enjoy the new status quo while you can, if you do. In the future, as OMD reminds us, there'll be an EIC with a vision-quest, sales that need improving, and an A-List writer eager for a notch on the belt, at least in the planning stage. Just because comics have always had OMD-like stories doesn't mean I have to enjoy them, or reap the benefits if I choose not to. OMD was basically committing a felony by burning down a property to claim the insurance money for more investments; the wrong way to get to a desired goal.

Right now I am getting my Spidey fix on The Spectacular Spider-Man cartoon, so I probably won't be bothering with the comics for a great deal longer.
 
Yeah, even though they throw in the usual wonky changes to the comic version (seems like only the Japanese do straight, 100%-faithful adaptations these days). SSM has been pretty good so far once you get past that and the freaky, alien eyes.
 
TheCorpulent1 said:
Yeah, even though they throw in the usual wonky changes to the comic version (seems like only the Japanese do straight, 100%-faithful adaptations these days). SSM has been pretty good so far once you get past that and the freaky, alien eyes.
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i agree the eyes seem to be the only complaint i have...they are creepy looking
 
The eyes look really weird to me, especially people with dark eyes. It looks like they're on drugs with gigantic dilated pupils.
 
They're like soul-vacuums. I fear for my salvation when I look at them. :(

Anyway, they're not a big deal. The cartoon's great. :up:
 
Yeah, the show looks well done and everything, but I think I may have moved past the Spider-Man in high school routine.
 
I thought so too, but it's genuinely pretty fun in spite of the high school stuff.
 
Eh, I'd much rather see a show following Pete's exploits as a superhero and a teacher, but whatever.
 
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