Discussion: High Speed Rail

[bunk]

Would you rather there be some sort of Venture between Businesses in Las Vegas and Disney to pay for this, or would you rather they raise Taxes on all Americans to pay for this?

Neither. I want Thomas Wayne to provide us all with cheap, public transportation.

 

[SuBe]

So, you want Government to FORCE it to happen, not the Will of the People through Free Market?

 

[SuBe]

Neither. I want Thomas Wayne to provide us all with cheap, public transportation.

Some could argue that if wasn't for Cheap, Public Transportation, Joe Chill wouldn't have been where he was to shoot Mr. Wayne in the First Place.

 

[danoyse]

I don't see a more efficient means of travel as being something "forced" onto people.

 

[SuBe]

It is when the Money to Pay for it is FORCED away from the People instead of the Free Market that people CHOOSE to invest in it or not.

 

[bunk]

Some could argue that if wasn't for Cheap, Public Transportation, Joe Chill wouldn't have been where he was to shoot Mr. Wayne in the First Place.

Is that how Chill got to the opera? Bastard!

 

[StorminNorman]

I don't see a more efficient means of travel as being something "forced" onto people.

You are forcing people to pay for it through the government. How can you not see that as being "forced"?

 

[StorminNorman]

It depends on where you come from, some Americans seem fine with the idea of using the train, others don't.

America has by far the lowest use of passenger trains in the world, and AmTrak is a failure. So...while there are SOME Americans that seem fine with using the train, the overwelming majority of Americans don't give a damn.

 

[Marx]

America has by far the lowest use of passenger trains in the world, and AmTrak is a failure. So...while there are SOME Americans that seem fine with using the train, the overwelming majority of Americans don't give a damn.

Is there was an easily accessible high speed rail, people would think twice about it. AmTrak is not that option.

 

[SuBe]

AmTrak is what happens when you give Government Control of it.

 

[The Incredible Hulk]

a National high speed rail? No, no way it would be profitable. Not unless you made it cheaper and faster than flying.

A handful of regional high speed rails? Definitely. Put them in Boston to DC (NY, Phila, Baltimore), Detroit to Minneapolis (Chicago, Milwaukee), New Orleans to Dallas (Houston, San Antonio), L.A. to Seattle (Portland, S.F.), Atlanta to Miami, Nashville to St. Louis (Memphis), etc. .

 

[StorminNorman]

Is there was an easily accessible high speed rail, people would think twice about it. AmTrak is not that option.

Look at all the inner city transportation that has failed - L.A.'s Metro, Atlanta's MARTA, Vegas's monorail system has been mentioned. Americans are a car centered culture and the government can't force American's to change that.

 

[SuBe]

Oh Normy, they will try, they will try.

 

[StorminNorman]

They will try and they will fail and we will be punished for it.

I wonder if Obama will increase energy taxes to make this work...

...oh wait, he already did!

But you know...no tax increases on ANYONE making less than 250,000 dollars.

 

[SuBe]

That would be true, if earnings above 250000 didn't affect those under.

 

[hippie_hunter]

Some could argue that if wasn't for Cheap, Public Transportation, Joe Chill wouldn't have been where he was to shoot Mr. Wayne in the First Place.

I would argue that if the Fair Tax were in place, Joe Chill would have had more money to buy food and decent clothing and would have had no reason to attempt to mug the Waynes and kill them right in front their young son.

So in the end, a lack of Fair Tax is why we have Batman

 

[hippie_hunter]

America has by far the lowest use of passenger trains in the world, and AmTrak is a failure. So...while there are SOME Americans that seem fine with using the train, the overwelming majority of Americans don't give a damn.

AmTrak is actually profitable in the Northeast Corridor.

Putting a maglev that connects Boston, New York City, Philiadelphia, Baltimore, and Washington D.C. would really work.

The Western parts of the country however, would certainly be difficult to figure out how to operate a profitable high speed railroad system.

Again, this is why I support maglev on account that it would mostly take off because it is both cheaper and faster than taking an airline.

 

[SuBe]

I would argue that if the FairTax were in place, Joe Chill would have had more money to buy food and decent clothing and would have had no reason to attempt to mug the Waynes and kill them right in front their young son.

So in the end, a lack of FairTax is why we have Batman

This is 100% accurate. It also would have been easier for Joey Chill to go to College as Education would have been Tax Free and with the Prebate it would have been easier to afford. With the FairTax also, Foreign Business would flow into the US, bringing more jobs with them. Investors would return $13 Trillion back into our Economy, and if Joey put as much effort in making himself successful as Joe Chill put in "murderin" he could be as rich as the Waynes himself.

 

[Marx]

You know things are in bad shape when 'the Fair-Tax' hits Gotham...

 

[SuBe]

If there was a FairTax, we wouldn't have both needed Batman, or any of the Villains he helped create. How many innocent lives would have been saved, if we had the FairTax? I tell you, the IRS is worse than the Legion of Doom.

 

[Marx]

If there was a FairTax, we wouldn't have both needed Batman, or any of the Villains he helped create. How many innocent lives would have been saved, if we had the FairTax? I tell you, the IRS is worse than the Legion of Doom.

You crack me up.

 

[hippie_hunter]

If there was a FairTax, we wouldn't have both needed Batman, or any of the Villains he helped create. How many innocent lives would have been saved, if we had the FairTax? I tell you, the IRS is worse than the Legion of Doom.

Is the IRS worse than Superboy Prime and the Anti-Monitor?

 

[The Incredible Hulk]

Look at all the inner city transportation that has failed - L.A.'s Metro, Atlanta's MARTA, Vegas's monorail system has been mentioned. Americans are a car centered culture and the government can't force American's to change that.

Just wait until gas goes up to $4 a gallon again. Although I can tell you as someone who takes a train into Philadelphia to work everyday, the ridership on the trains has almost quadrupled here since 2004 when I started working in the city, I think people in the Northeast however, given the level of congestion and number of large cities are more prone to use public transportation, especially since we have the infastructure in place to accomodate it. You dont see that in a lot of other parts of the country. I grew up in Michigan and Detroit has almost no public transport save buses to speak of. It's a similar situation out West and down South.

 

[NHawk19]

Just wait until gas goes up to $4 a gallon again. Although I can tell you as someone who takes a train into Philadelphia to work everyday, the ridership on the trains has almost quadrupled here since 2004 when I started working in the city, I think people in the Northeast however, given the level of congestion and number of large cities are more prone to use public transportation, especially since we have the infastructure in place to accomodate it. You dont see that in a lot of other parts of the country. I grew up in Michigan and Detroit has almost no public transport save buses to speak of. It's a similar situation out West and down South.

agreed and with the time constraints on air travel due to the vast amount of security which makes it ineffcient to fly, a maglev could drastically reduce travel time.

 

[SuBe]

Wouldn't that maglev have the same or similar security threats?