Does anyone find the Hulk a bit overpowered?

[moraldeficiency]

Sage advice to the hulk:


stop being a stupid dick to everyone.

 

[Rick Roll'd]

hulk is an really overpowered bore look at his movies...no one cares

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Sage advice to the hulk:


stop being a stupid dick to everyone.

 

[lowly marvelite]

No. People could say the same about Superman, or current Thor or the Silver Surfer. What I don't like is that he almost always beats Thor. Or anyone else he ever fights. It's frickin' ridiculous. Someone made a good point earlier that rage is finite, so Hulk's strength, while unbelievable, shouldn't be unlimited. What I find a bit overpowered is the ability of a Marvel writer to not observe some sort of boundaries, some sort of established pecking order (the way they do at DC). Everyone at DC seems fine with Superman being top dog; Captain Marvel seems the only one able to challenge him. I never have understood the wild fluctuations in power among some characters at Marvel, none more so than Thor. I know it's a comic book. But that's what I pay for. Fool me for a bit. Even a fantasy can be ruined by inconsistencies in the fantasy, no? Just my humble, blue-collar observations...

 

[sdc10]

hulk is an really overpowered bore look at his movies...no one cares

No one cared about the first hulk movie because it sucked, not many people saw the 2nd in theatres because they didnt get the message that it didnt have anything to do with the first movie, tho it has been getting a great run on dvd in terms of sales.

 

[Chris Wallace]

No one cared about the first hulk movie because it sucked, not many people saw the 2nd in theatres because they didnt get the message that it didnt have anything to do with the first movie, tho it has been getting a great run on dvd in terms of sales.

Many people who've seen it don't even know that.

 

[ssj wolverine]

He was annoyingly overpowered in WWH which was stupid. Giving the fanboys wet dreams.

 

[DIRTY ELK]

no he was not overpowered in wwh ,that is how he should be, you hulk haters just need to quit crying ,the hulk to powerful , he beats the crap out of my favorites heros.

 

[SenseiofCheese]

What makes Superman interesting is that, even with his power levels, he holds back. A lot. That, and there are certain things like magic and kryptonite that CAN very well kill him. If you want to compare the Hulk with anyone over at DC, compare him with Superman Prime. Here we have someone who's powerful enough to take on the entire DC hero roster AT THE SAME TIME and come out on top, has no weakness to kryptonite or magic, and general consensus says, is just about the most boring and uninspired character to come out of that company in a LONG time, because of it.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

He was annoyingly overpowered in WWH which was stupid. Giving the fanboys wet dreams.

no he was not overpowered in wwh ,that is how he should be, you hulk haters just need to quit crying ,the hulk to powerful , he beats the crap out of my favorites heros.

Man, it's like you guys timed that.

 

[Gamma Goliath]

if the hulks strength should be limited, then so should his will. but seeing as ones will can be as limited as one allows it to be, then so can the hulks strength. if hulk loses confidence in his strength then he wont have any, but we all know the hulk, he says he's the stongest one there is, therefore he is. hulk means what he says, and backs it up with proof. so hulk isnt overpowered, just misunderstood

 

[Mr. Green]

What makes Superman interesting is that, even with his power levels, he holds back. A lot. That, and there are certain things like magic and kryptonite that CAN very well kill him. If you want to compare the Hulk with anyone over at DC, compare him with Superman Prime. Here we have someone who's powerful enough to take on the entire DC hero roster AT THE SAME TIME and come out on top, has no weakness to kryptonite or magic, and general consensus says, is just about the most boring and uninspired character to come out of that company in a LONG time, because of it.

Hulk was uber-powerful ONCE in WWH and that was pretty justified by the story. Madder = Stronger. He was super-mad and he came from a world where, at his usual strength levels, he was really not anything special.

Even then he still wasn't at Superman Prime's level.

 

[lowly marvelite]

[qu ote=Midnyte_Sun;16632946]Yeah sometimes hes over the top. When he held the tectonic plates together on Sakaar..that was just...silly. His hands are only at the biggest I've seen them drawn, a few feet in length. To hold thousands of square miles of tectonic plate together was just one of those ludicrous Dragonball Z moments.[/quote]

I don't know that I believe that necessarily...I mean let's face it; these are comic books-most of what the characters do would be impossibe. I suppose it takes talent on the part of the writer to maybe remember something from his high school physics class, apply it to a fictional character and write it in such a way to make it somewhat believable. For instance, I saw a picture of an old, old Superman in outerspace, using his superbreath to blow the sun into an enemy. Hello? Obviously, that is completely impossible and therefore just plain dumb. I suppose the talent comes in writing the characters with off the charts power levels in such a way as it's at least somewhat believable. Also, it takes great editorial oversight, enforcing established guidelines, to make sure that character's with already established power levels continue to be written consistently so. If one month, Wolverine is smokin' and drinkin' and fightin' and the next month he's at the same bar speaking with a group of brawlers in an English accent, "I say old chaps; is it necessary to bloody our knuckles every time with meet here...let's just be friends!" Obviously, if Wolverine were written with that much inconsistency he would not be one of Marvel's most popular characters right now. The same consistency needs to be applied in terms of a character's power set to make the character somewhat believable. For instance, the Silver Surfer is obviously one of Marvel's most powerful superheros; for him to be held with his arm behind his back by the Black Panther, a hero with no superstrength, is ridiculous. Sorry, no amount of leverage from someone with human strength is going to be able to contain a class 100 character. Period. Passing off the unbelievable as believable is supposed to be a Marvel trademark. DC is the one that writes the stupid stuff. Just my humble opinion.

 

[random_havoc]

no he was not overpowered in wwh ,that is how he should be, you hulk haters just need to quit crying ,the hulk to powerful , he beats the crap out of my favorites heros.

Oh the ignorance.

In WWH, fanboy Pak had to make all the Hulk's opponents look incompetent (Dr Strange being perhaps the absolute best example) for Hulk to stand a chance and had to stomp on consistency in a number of places.

It was pathetic, as was the entire mini series.

 

[random_havoc]

if the hulks strength should be limited, then so should his will. but seeing as ones will can be as limited as one allows it to be, then so can the hulks strength. if hulk loses confidence in his strength then he wont have any, but we all know the hulk, he says he's the stongest one there is, therefore he is. hulk means what he says, and backs it up with proof. so hulk isnt overpowered, just misunderstood

No, his strength isn't supposed to be about his will, but his anger. However, anger DOES have a maximum, it's when it breaks out into blind rage, which is exactly why Hulk's "savage" Hulk should have been his maximum strength limit.

Now, Ult Hulk on the other hand has a completely rational explanation for having no strength limit, because his strength isn't about anger, it's about his body automatically adapting to whatever stresses it's put under.

Either way, strength doesn't beat everything, and there are still plenty of earth-bound heroes who should logically be able to beat him 99% of the time.

 

[BrianWilly]

no he was not overpowered in wwh ,that is how he should be, you hulk haters just need to quit crying ,the hulk to powerful , he beats the crap out of my favorites heros.

if the hulks strength should be limited, then so should his will. but seeing as ones will can be as limited as one allows it to be, then so can the hulks strength. if hulk loses confidence in his strength then he wont have any, but we all know the hulk, he says he's the stongest one there is, therefore he is. hulk means what he says, and backs it up with proof. so hulk isnt overpowered, just misunderstood

Replies like these are the reason I keeping checking this thread every couple of days.

 

[Spike_x1]

Say what you will about Bruce Jones' run on the Hulk, but he had the guts to create some stories that really presented new and interesting threats to Banner and the Hulk, with some definite character development. Shifting away from the status quo of Banner and Hulk's personalities is something that I wish more writers did, like where Banner was concerned that his and Hulk's personalities could possibly be merging. Whether you think that Jones' idea to give the Absorbing Man telepathy was a good change (I didn't), the story in question still showed Creel pretty easily beating down the Hulk, which was certainly refreshing to see.

I know that the Abomination's been watered down a lot over the years, too, but in the "Abominable" TPB, I was pleased to be reminded (for the first time in too long) of his physical superiority over the Hulk as he was clearly winning the climactic fight until Emil started bragging about killing Betty, which sent Banner/Hulk into a mindless rage.

WWH was really "meh" for me. There were still some stories in the arc that I really liked, such as the showdown with Ghost Rider. Bringing back the old school Juggernaut in WWH: X-Men was good too, especially where Cain was arguably slightly stronger than the Hulk at his angriest.

 

[Mr. Green]

I liked Jones' run as well.

 

[Ahura Mazda]

I did not. I found it quite boring and with super Banner quite annoying.

I do not think the Hulk is over powerred because he still gets defeated. Yes I am a fan but I am not over zealous. And for me it makes sense that in a strength match he should be above everything which is not super cosmic (beings like the Celestials, etc.) but you don't win every battle with strength and that is really the only offensive power of the Hulk, even though defensively he is a monster.

He was written as a strength creature and as such was the premiere marvel strength character.

 

[November Rain]

i don't always think his great strength should include great fighting skills. he should be more regularly beaten by lower strength beings with higher fighting skills. or at least that should be savage

there's too much of a correlation between strength and fighting skill and i don't think that should be the case. natural warriors should always have better chances of victory.

 

[Mr. Green]

Yeah, but he's also super-durable and really, really hard to hurt. So even if you can fight better, if you're not strong enough you really can't beat Hulk.

 

[November Rain]

they should probabl remove the link between strength and durability as well with characters.

and a durable bad fighter will generally lose to a higher skilled weaker fighter with due course, or at least stalemate.

of course this theory should have a lowered limit strength/skill ratio so peeps like spidey could never take him.

i would like to see characters like gladiator not being intimidated and being able to take him. he has the relevant combat and skill set to take him i believe, same goes for herc and thor. The furthest down i'd go is blackbolt on a good day.

 

[Mr. Green]

Thor and Herc have both stalemated him and Thor has beaten him.

The thing about a Herc vs. Hulk battle is Hulk gets stronger as he gets madder and Herc just stays the same. Even if Herc's a better fighter I see Hulk winning more times than not for this reason.

 

[November Rain]

a better fighter would put the hulk down before it really became an issue. It's not like herc isn't one of the greatest hand to hand combatants. He'd nip it in the bud

 

[Ahura Mazda]

You do realise the Hulk also has a healing factor which is better then Wolverine's so he does recover from hits. His fighting skills were basically from instinct until the whole Planet Hulk run where he had to learn how to fight.