Ender's Game

[Motown Marvel]

hey guys, the movie is out in theaters for you to watch now!

 

[Spideyfan93]

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My review for anyone interested...so many book readers are bashing this movie and bringing up the anti-gay controversy. This was a fantastic adaption and the direction in the 3rd act really surprised me.

 

[Lencho01]

Yeah, I still don't understand what the boycott does since it's been revealed Orson Scott Card isn't making any money off the film. The film's own publicity and the boycott's publicity probably helped sell books too.

 

[Loki882]

Yes, the boycott controversy will bring MORE attention to the book and INCREASE sales. That's what always happens.

 

[Loki882]

I think one of the comments said we give authors like Lovecraft and others who were blatantly sexist and racist passes for some reason because it was a "different time" as opposed to Card who is alive and well now. To an extent I get it.

The difference is that Lovecraft lived in the late 19th/early part of the 20th Century, when such beliefs were the norm. Also, he had a rather "complicated" upbringing from what I've read. Card is expressing these views NOW, in 2013. It'd be the equivalent of someone exposing George Wallace/Strom Thurmond-type racism openly in 2013.

 

[Airwings]

I'm not trying to start a flame war here, but what if the writers would have added hints about gay love in the movie script. Just hints, not anything outspoken.
How would things have turned out then? Would Card have been angry/disapointed? Would the audience approve, maybe some people would even get happy because of an upset Card?

 

[Thundercrack85]

Yes, the boycott controversy will bring MORE attention to the book and INCREASE sales. That's what always happens.

Then you should be happy.

 

[Thundercrack85]

Much as I detest Card's views, I might go see this, if word of mouth is good.

 

[jacobed]

Great movie, great visuals, great acting. Highly recommend it

 

[LostSon88]

I just can't take people who think that it's somehow "principled" to boycott a piece of art because of a creator's personal values seriously when the issue they have with that author or artist is effectively that person's closemindedness about personal values.

Exactly. I don't agree with his views...still saw the movie. I really could care less of the fact that he's a bigot. That's his issue, not mine.

Boycotts and protests are a waste of time. Personally, I feel that at the end of the day, they don't accomplish much. But at least the protesters feel good about themselves.

Oh and I thought the movie was pretty damn good.

 

[GwensNeckBrace]

The movie's visuals were stellar
The acting was atrocious
Not sure how I feel about it as a whole

 

[LostSon88]

I will say this though, reading the summary of the 2nd book...if they were to do another one there's no way the 2nd book should be made as the source material.

I'm with the creator on this one in that the second book is absolutely, positively unfilmable. Or that it is filmable but the movie would be lame.

 

[Hunter Rider]

He's always been rather outspoken. So, for decades. He's actually mellowed out a bit. He's actually recanted the bit about wanting to round up gays in the last few years.

I see, it seems to me that this would have all been best addressed before the movie went into production, I mean all this boycotting stuff wont hurt him, he got paid already.

 

[Schlosser85]

He's actually recanted the bit about wanting to round up gays in the last few years.

Did he really mellow, or did he try to downplay his most extreme views to avoid more backlash and boycotts?

I can understand believing homosexuality is a sin, I can understand believing marriage should be between a man and a woman, but wanting to "round up" gays? I have a hard time wrapping my head around that one.

 

[The Squirrel]

Letting someone's views ruin your enjoyment of any media is stupid. The movie is good.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I see, it seems to me that this would have all been best addressed before the movie went into production, I mean all this boycotting stuff wont hurt him, he got paid already.

The boycotting stuff won't hurt anyone because most people don't care about boycotts. If people want to see this film they will see it.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Letting someone's views ruin your enjoyment of any media is stupid. The movie is good.

Is it anymore stupid then telling others who might actually be effected by such words that their feelings don't matter? Personally, as I am not gay or a lesbian, I can't possibly grasp what such views and words can mean nor have I faced such prejudice. So I am not going to tell anyone how to feel about it.

I read the book about 10-12 years ago and didn't know about Card's views until a few years after that. By then, I'd already read a few more of his books and had been enjoying them. Haven't bought another one since.

I still want to see the movie.

My teacher gave me the book in high school. Had no idea who Card was, but she knew I loved sci-fi. I am fan of the material.

 

[Lobo]

I've not read the book, but am probably going to see the movie later tonight.

 

[Motown Marvel]

I will say this though, reading the summary of the 2nd book...if they were to do another one there's no way the 2nd book should be made as the source material.

I'm with the creator on this one in that the second book is absolutely, positively unfilmable. Or that it is filmable but the movie would be lame.

I actually think Speaker for the Dead is a better book than Ender's Game. But yeah, its pretty damn unfilmable. It could work as a CGI animated movie. But it'd be weird for the first movie to be live action and the sequel be animated.

 

[Donut]

I enjoyed the movie

 

[jacobed]

I actually think Speaker for the Dead is a better book than Ender's Game. But yeah, its pretty damn unfilmable. It could work as a CGI animated movie. But it'd be weird for the first movie to be live action and the sequel be animated.

Eh any book is filmable if you have the right people behind it

 

[C. Lee]

Just got back from seeing it. Loved it. That doesn't mean there aren't things that could have been better (a lot of stuff from the book was left out of the movie)....but considering I thought for years that the movie was unfilmable it was pretty darn good.

 

[C. Lee]

Eh any book is filmable if you have the right people behind it

I don't know his criteria for saying it was unfilmable....but I have said I also thought it was unfilmable....and my reasons for saying that is not because of things like special effects....but because the book dealt with kids doing things that the mainstream film industry would not allow. The book had, among other things, children as young as 6 years old killing other kids in combat.

 

[Thundercrack85]

Did he really mellow, or did he try to downplay his most extreme views to avoid more backlash and boycotts?

I can understand believing homosexuality is a sin, I can understand believing marriage should be between a man and a woman, but wanting to "round up" gays? I have a hard time wrapping my head around that one.

Well to be fair, that was technically the law. I.e. to lock up gay people. At least until fairly recently (probably still would be in Utah, if they weren't part of the rest of the country).

Card was just overzealous about it.

I don't know if his recantation is sincere. It's not like he's exactly pro-gay right now.

 

[Marvin]

I don't know his criteria for saying it was unfilmable....but I have said I also thought it was unfilmable....and my reasons for saying that is not because of things like special effects....but because the book dealt with kids doing things that the mainstream film industry would not allow. The book had, among other things, children as young as 6 years old killing other kids in combat.

Game of thrones has kids doing all sorts of crap, best way around it, up age them.