G4: Gay Hypesters Forever!

[newwaveboy87]

My mom's on her second divorce

 

[Marx]

...and that makes you happy because?

 

[newwaveboy87]

My step-dad was a drunken *******?

Jer's parents aren't together.
JP's are divorced.
More than a few of my ex-boyfriends came from broken homes.

I could go on and on and on.

And we're all from before the divorce-rate-is-50% generation.

 

[JP]

My parents were always divorced. Never knew them together.

 

[newwaveboy87]

Me neither! High five?

 

[Marx]

My step-dad was a drunken *******?

I didn't know that. My apologies.

Jer's parents aren't together.
JP's are divorced.
More than a few of my ex-boyfriends came from broken homes.

I could go on and on and on.

And we're all from before the divorce-rate-is-50% generation.

...but you're essentially making a 'nature vs. nurture' argument with this.

 

[newwaveboy87]

I think it's a 50/50 split.
Our environments didn't help us out.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

My step-dad was a drunken *******?

Jer's parents aren't together.
JP's are divorced.
More than a few of my ex-boyfriends came from broken homes.

I could go on and on and on.

And we're all from before the divorce-rate-is-50% generation.

that's fine and all but you can't connect being "gay" to that... not when majority of everyone seems to be divorced these days. Out of all my close friends... (14 friends), 4 are gay (2 have divorced parents), and 10 are straight with (6 divorced parents). Your assumption isn't wrong stating that alot of homo's come from broken home, but it's not a gay trait, it's trait or anyone with parents these days.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

I think it's a 50/50 split.
Our environments didn't help us out.

help what out? lol do you really think your parents divorce made you gay?

 

[Marx]

I think it's a 50/50 split.
Our environments didn't help us out.

I disagree. You're gay because you were born gay. You don't just wake up one day and say 'hey, I think I'll be gay today'.

 

[newwaveboy87]

I said we're talking about people from before the divorce rate went skyhigh.
The generation that comes from broken homes are our younger siblings (if we have any), kids currently in middle school.

Prior to, say, when I started high school all the kids I knew that were weird, quirky, kinda crazy and queer came from screwed up family situations.

I NEVER said it was the only factor.

 

[newwaveboy87]

I disagree. You're gay because you were born gay. You don't just wake up one day and say 'hey, I think I'll be gay today'.

help what out? lol do you really think your parents divorce made you gay?

You two both read into things in such a way that my only reaction to it is this: +

Not what I said. At all.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

also, on side note, most the gay friends i have (adding not close friends) who come from divorced parents, like myself. Knew they were gay before there parents even got divorce....

 

[newwaveboy87]

Isn't that special.
I grew up in an area where divorce didn't happen.

I've always been a social leper in some way.

 

[Marx]

You two both read into things in such a way that my only reaction to it is this: +

Not what I said. At all.

You said that it's a '50/50 split' and you've continually tried to connect being gay and broken homes. What exactly am I 'misreading' in your comments?

 

[spideyboy_1111]

I disagree. You're gay because you were born gay. You don't just wake up one day and say 'hey, I think I'll be gay today'.

I think it's a mix of both to be honest... some people i know knew they were gay at an EXTREMELY young age... Those for me are proof of it being Nature, However, i do find it extremely odd, like i posted yesterday, that alot of gay guys (and in my experience the majority), all fit into the "overbearing mother/absent (physically or mentally/emotionally) father" That's too odd of a coincidence imo to throw out and say it has nothing to do with anything either.

So for me its both. My dad had a theory which actually makes alot of sense to me. What if were born bi? And some of us figure out what we like alot sooner, Were raised to like girls, but what if the way were raised ends up unlocking that "gay side" of us..? Kinda like how the mutant gene unlocks at puberty... ironically that too is also when i started getting curious about guys.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

Isn't that special.
I grew up in an area where divorce didn't happen.

I've always been a social leper in some way.

oh trust me when i was growing up getting divorced was still taboo but on a rise.

 

[Marx]

I became 'aware' of my feelings for guys in the eighth grade but I tried to deny it for a long time.

 

[JP]

I get what Jason is saying, I think Spideyboy worded it better.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

I became 'aware' of my feelings for guys in the eighth grade but I tried to deny it for a long time.

i had no feelings for guys for a long time. lol i still love it because i went on my first date with a girl in 1st grade, to chuck e cheese. I had a huge crush on her. Now the only "iffy" sign growing up was that i had some "girl" toys. But they were all animal based I loved animals and boy toys really didnt cater to that. I still had boy toys though (loved beast wars, tmnt, jurassic park, gargoyles, mighty max and power rangers) but that was the only sign looking back. 6th grade i became curious, but not really in a sexual sense. It was more of a "i wanna see if they got what i got an what it looks like sense", 7th and 8th grade I had a HUGE crush on a girl named Stacy. Thought she was sooo beautiful. I never thought about her sexually though, but did start to question if maybe i was bi? because I did love looking at porno mags and stuff (even the ones with only girls).

Freshman year i dated a girl for 3 months... felt forced into it (peer pressure) and i didnt really find her attractive. Sophmore year i fell for a friend of mine, Molly, and had a crush on her for 2.5 years. I went to dances with her, and literally dreamed of marrying her. However... during this time i was also having "iffy" moments with a friend of mine... Joe. By the end of junior year i realized... umm why am i not getting aroused or j/o to the thought of me and Molly fooling around? or picturing her naked? but i am with guys? That's when i knew.

 

[JP]

I liked a lot of girls. Wasn't into guys until freshman year of high school.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

I also didnt gain "emotional" feelings for guys till senior year when i began talking to guys online.

 

[newwaveboy87]

I get what Jason is saying, I think Spideyboy worded it better.

THANK YOU!
Evolutionarily speaking, nothing happens, no mutation occurs purely from nature or from nurture.

It's always a combination of the two.
Some environments and lifestyles will make you a higher candidate for certain things. Per example, being Native American makes it much likelier that you'll end up with an alcohol and drug addiction problem. They're genetically susceptible to it.

Fractured homes make it likelier for certain things to occur within a person. Being gay could possibly be one of them.

But that doesn't guarantee it.

That's why genetics taking a zang where they should zing comes in.

Evolution and genes. Crazy little things, aren't they?

 

[Marx]

i had no feelings for guys for a long time. lol i still love it because i went on my first date with a girl in 1st grade, to chuck e cheese. I had a huge crush on her. Now the only "iffy" sign growing up was that i had some "girl" toys. But they were all animal based I loved animals and boy toys really didnt cater to that. I still had boy toys though (loved beast wars, tmnt, jurassic park, gargoyles, mighty max and power rangers) but that was the only sign looking back. 6th grade i became curious, but not really in a sexual sense. It was more of a "i wanna see if they got what i got an what it looks like sense", 7th and 8th grade I had a HUGE crush on a girl named Stacy. Thought she was sooo beautiful. I never thought about her sexually though, but did start to question if maybe i was bi? because I did love looking at porno mags and stuff (even the ones with only girls).

Freshman year i dated a girl for 3 months... felt forced into it (peer pressure) and i didnt really find her attractive. Sophmore year i fell for a friend of mine, Molly, and had a crush on her for 2.5 years. I went to dances with her, and literally dreamed of marrying her. However... during this time i was also having "iffy" moments with a friend of mine... Joe. By the end of junior year i realized... umm why am i not getting aroused or j/o to the thought of me and Molly fooling around? or picturing her naked? but i am with guys? That's when i knew.

It was similar for me. I would always catch myself looking at other guys in gym class and whatever. I had a couple of girlfriends but I was never sexually attracted to them.

 

[JP]

I also didnt gain "emotional" feelings for guys till senior year when i began talking to guys online.

Well, I didn't realize I was attracted to guys until I fell for one. The heart wants what it wants.