Global Oil Crisis

Wasn't the 70's energy crisis caused by high oil prices?

Doesn't high oil prices cause inflation since it's used to produce thousands of products?


Depends on whether you go by "core" inflation or not. Core inflation excludes energy commodities and fresh food, because those are so volatile some economists say they distort the true inflation picture. High oil prices often occur regardless of supply and demand (i.e. Iran decides on a "police action" against ISIS in Iraq, and oil prices shoot up; nothing to do with an increase in economic activity).

Other economists say core inflation is cheating. So it is confusing.
 
Petrol is used in everything from manufacturing machinery to Vaseline. We can replace some of its applications with synthetic oils, but stuff like Vaseline and tires and rubber and roofing tiles and asphalt and tar etc come from petrol and our dependance on all those items arent going anywhere anytime soon. All those industries are effected by this. Even though I like these lower prices they will hurt the economy and hundreds of industries world wide.

So you have a dependence on Vaseline? :hehe:
 
Im filling my tank up for $29 atm. I have to buy premium 93 octane gasoline. Its an extra $20 in my pocket every week which works out to around a $100 I can spend on other things every month. I hope the prices keep falling cause its helping me right now. I live paycheck to paycheck. I dont have the luxury of concerning myself with future recessions.

ouch, that's rough. I'm paying $2.27 a gallon right now. But I drive a Scion so I get really great miles to the gallon. $15 gets me through the week and I drive quite a few miles daily to get to work.
 
Petrol is used in everything from manufacturing machinery to Vaseline. We can replace some of its applications with synthetic oils, but stuff like Vaseline and tires and rubber and roofing tiles and asphalt and tar etc come from petrol and our dependance on all those items arent going anywhere anytime soon. All those industries are effected by this. Even though I like these lower prices they will hurt the economy and hundreds of industries world wide.

So you have a dependence on Vaseline? :hehe:


I'll just say that you do not want to be anywhere near him when the first full Dawn Of Justice trailer comes out.
 
This is amazing reading. Humans find a way to predict "doom" for everything that happens. Now we need "Big Oil" to make a ton of profit or the sky will fall? This better not be the same people who attack "Big Oil" all time. Surely this is coming from someone in the oil industry, right?

Since when is cheap energy a bad thing? Every single developing country in the world is seeking cheap energy to raise their standard of living to that of the developed nations.

This does prove the "peak oil" predictions of the last 10 decades were all wrong at least.

The humorous thing is, oil shouldn't even be our main source of energy at this point. We should be a nuclear society at this point if not for certain special interest groups demonizing it.

I don't see why that should be. Surely the price of oil drops because the supply increases? If so, the profit margin should be the same.
Exactly right. Shale oil in particular is behind the boom in supply.

To European ears, the notion of fuel being too cheap seems bizarre.
It should sound bizarre to everyone.


I don't think you understand what a lower demand for oil is a reflection of.

Slow economic growth hampers the demand for oil. The lower the growth, the lower the demand and thus lower prices. Just to point out, the production of oil has created jobs in the US that would start to disappear if the price keeps dropping.
You will need to explain why oil prices did not fall off a cliff in 2008 and stay there during the global recession.

Now that the globe is recovering from the recession, the price should go up according to your theory.

This is all about the booming supply.

No, it is a case of decreased demand. The supply hasn't been adjusted accordingly to the new, lower demand so it's too high.
So you are claiming there has been no increase in supply?
I wish I could answer that question. If I was an economist, I could speak more generally about it.

Based on my own experience within the province I live in, the low oil prices of the past were in line with the lower cost of living and a slower economy. With the boom in oil (and the price going up) there was a lot of money to be made here and the economy grew strong. In other words, the price of oil rose and so did the employment rate. Our government built a budget around the high price of oil and the rest of the country (Canada) profited from our oil sands. Investors flocked to our booming economy and so did workers from across the globe. With the dropping price of oil, our economy will slow down. Investors will leave or halt their projects and workers in the oil industry will be laid off. A slower economy means lower house prices which is good if you want to buy, but bad if you want to sell (and depending on how long ago you bought a house, that could mean a very depressing loss). The issue is, too, that the cost of living is not going down with the oil prices, which means if you can't find a job or you got laid off, it'll be very hard to make ends meet.

We survived the low oil prices of the past because they were never high before. Now that we've built an economy around it, we rely on it and the price being higher.
This is interesting to me. I like seeing how the mind of a doomsayer works.

Here you claim people are able to adjust to a higher price but somehow don't' believe it is possible for people to adjust to a lower price. Adaptability only works one way....the way that supports the "doom".
 
I'm not a doomsayer. I'm basing my opinion on what I'm currently seeing in my province's own economy.

I don't take anything you say seriously because of the nonsense you spew in the Global Warming thread.
 
The Scots will be breathing a sigh of relief that they didn't go independent.
 
I'm not a doomsayer. I'm basing my opinion on what I'm currently seeing in my province's own economy.

I don't take anything you say seriously because of the nonsense you spew in the Global Warming thread.
You last point is an Ad Hominem....

...and makes no sense because I'm supposedly supporting "Big Oil" in that thread. The exact opposite of this thread.

:STR:
 
None of us like Big Oil but Big Oil/petrol is a major cog in the world economy. That's a fact of life. As much as we all want cheaper oil prices we have to accept that when oil prices fall like they have it destabilizes the world economy.

It's not about what I or you like or dislike. That's just how it is. Petrol supports so many county's economies and is the key to so many industries that any sudden drastic change in price, whether it be a decrease or an increase, has negative effects on the economy world wide.
 
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Well the conspiracy theorists are going to have a field day.

But the timing is odd.
 
Dang...he's 90, was put in the hospital for pneumonia in December. He's old.... lol

The scary thing about it is, the next person in line is 79 and has dementia...good grief.
 

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