How do you feel about muslims?

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I just need to get this out. I don't care if this topic is uninteresting.

I'm beginning to think the "open-minded" thing is just an illusion with people. Everyone says they respect others' beliefs, up until they have to deal with those beliefs in an intimating context.

My boyfriend is a proud muslim. I love him for who he is and all his ways. But I cannot find a single friend or family member who doesn't judge him before they get to know him. I've heard everything from "he's satanic" to "watch your pocketbook".

The hostility of others has started fights between us. I think, now, I was foolish to run and tell him about the hurtful things another person said. It's all so hurtful.
 
I dislike Scientologist's mainly because they are giving their money away to a business organization, not a religion. They achieve nothing. Muslims don't bother me.
 
I think that people who say things like, "I don't judge groups, I judge individuals" have the right mindset, but how honest can they be? To be totally truthful, I think that person would have to have led a sheltered life or they have never encountered a group of those people who have shown hostility towards them. I am human and in being human I know I have flaws. One of those flaws it that I do, in some form or another, judge a person by their group. Not all the time and not in any extreme fashion... but mostly as a thought in the back of my mind saying "oh... he/she is this or that and they might act/say/do things this or that way". Does that make me a racist/bigot/*******? I don't think so because I know that my train of thought is part upbringing and part life experience. My thoughts do not dictate my actions... it is just an automatic response to a situation. I am more than mature enough to know that I must handle every situation on an individual basis, and I treat people that way as well... but that doesn't mean I don't have thoughts that contradict my actions sometimes. I just override them and move on with life.

To keep this on topic and not be so generalized, I think everyone has their own preconceived notions about Muslims. If they have any contact with any media then how could they not? But I know that just as in any group there are extemists and people who are just trying to live a normal, peaceful life and want to be free to carry out their beliefs... and I have zero problem with that. Its just that Muslims do not have a good name in the US right now and you know how Americans are... stereotyping is a past time hobby here. Learn how to deal with it.
 
It's funny that you started this thread, I've been thinking about doing the same. I can't help but find myself be attacked and judged EVERYWHERE I go as of late. EVERYWHERE. And what really hurts is the ignorant attack on Barak Obama and his middle name. It's gotten SO bad that Obama's campaign wouldn't let to Muslim women sit behind him at a speech here in Detroit the other day.

I'm a born optimist, and along with my religion its been fundamental for my belief and hope in not only humanity as a whole, but the United States...that this really is the greatest country I could wish for, but lately...I kind feel like I'm freaking out here.

I'm blessed that I live in Detroit, with a large Islamic community, so most people here don't have some of the misconceptions that others in the nation have. And usually if someone has a question or concern they ask me...I LOVE it when people ask me about Islam...I love to teach.

This is what happened to me the other day. Like I said earlier, I live in a suburb just outside Detroit and go to Wayne State University Med school, we have a LARGE Muslim student base, around 20-25% of the class (out of 326 year 1 Med students) are Muslim students. It's a VERY diverse class. But the other day, I was with my class shadowing one of the general surgeons, and one of the students was wearing a Hijab (the head covering) and the woman that was presented to us started screaming a storm, "get that piece of s**t out of here!" She played it off coolly and stepped out, I followed in protest. Here is one of the top students in the class, not judged by her character, but what she chose to wear on her head. 15 of the 20 top students in the class are Muslim. The top cardiologists, gen surgeons, OBs, practitioners, ER docs...are Muslim doctors. State and nationally recognized academics and we're still nothing more than potential terrorists.

I've been reeling about this for days now.

Rant over...:(
 
This is what happened to me the other day. Like I said earlier, I live in a suburb just outside Detroit and go to Wayne State University Med school, we have a LARGE Muslim student base, around 20-25% of the class (out of 326 year 1 Med students) are Muslim students. It's a VERY diverse class. But the other day, I was with my class shadowing one of the general surgeons, and one of the students was wearing a Hijab (the head covering) and the woman that was presented to us started screaming a storm, "get that piece of s**t out of here!" She played it off coolly and stepped out, I followed in protest. Here is one of the top students in the class, not judged by her character, but what she chose to wear on her head. 15 of the 20 top students in the class are Muslim. The top cardiologists, gen surgeons, OBs, practitioners, ER docs...are Muslim doctors. State and nationally recognized academics and we're still nothing more than potential terrorists.

There were no repercussions for her outburst?
 
They smell like goats.
 
Hate muslims?! One of my best friends is muslim!!!
 
One of my old best friends is Muslim as well. When he used to say, "Assalamu alaikum", he'd get all hissy fissy when I replied, "Oscar Meyer bacon".

I never understood why.
 
One of my old best friends is Muslim as well. When he used to say, "Assalamu alaikum", he'd get all hissy fissy when I replied, "Oscar Meyer bacon".

I never understood why.

:huh:
 
I will never judge anyone based on their religion but on their actions.


Muslims are normal, people. It's sad that one bad apple can ruin the bunch.
 
I lived down the street from a Mosque in San Francisco. They're pretty weird.
 
I take that back. With the cold weather SF is constantly under, the head gear works.
 
It's funny that you started this thread, I've been thinking about doing the same. I can't help but find myself be attacked and judged EVERYWHERE I go as of late. EVERYWHERE. And what really hurts is the ignorant attack on Barak Obama and his middle name. It's gotten SO bad that Obama's campaign wouldn't let to Muslim women sit behind him at a speech here in Detroit the other day.

I'm a born optimist, and along with my religion its been fundamental for my belief and hope in not only humanity as a whole, but the United States...that this really is the greatest country I could wish for, but lately...I kind feel like I'm freaking out here.

I'm blessed that I live in Detroit, with a large Islamic community, so most people here don't have some of the misconceptions that others in the nation have. And usually if someone has a question or concern they ask me...I LOVE it when people ask me about Islam...I love to teach.

This is what happened to me the other day. Like I said earlier, I live in a suburb just outside Detroit and go to Wayne State University Med school, we have a LARGE Muslim student base, around 20-25% of the class (out of 326 year 1 Med students) are Muslim students. It's a VERY diverse class. But the other day, I was with my class shadowing one of the general surgeons, and one of the students was wearing a Hijab (the head covering) and the woman that was presented to us started screaming a storm, "get that piece of s**t out of here!" She played it off coolly and stepped out, I followed in protest. Here is one of the top students in the class, not judged by her character, but what she chose to wear on her head. 15 of the 20 top students in the class are Muslim. The top cardiologists, gen surgeons, OBs, practitioners, ER docs...are Muslim doctors. State and nationally recognized academics and we're still nothing more than potential terrorists.

I've been reeling about this for days now.

Rant over...:(

:wow: did anyone say anything to her?
 
IT's pretty bad that so many people judge people solely on their religious beliefs before they even allow themselves the chance to get to know them. But it's natural for people to fear what they don't know or understand. I remember when i first came to university, i'm a fairly small framed guy, and there was a massive ex-army-turned-body-builder in one of my law classes, and purely because of his size, and the fact i'd never met body builders or army guys before, i had assumed he wasn't very smart, turned out he was a bit of a nerd like the rest of us, and i felt pretty stupid for being so prejudiced.

just goes to show you can't judge a book by its cover.
 
I suspect I don't care for the explodey ones, but I've never met one, so I don't know. The ones I do know are generally fine. Except one. He's kind of a dick, but I don't think it's because he's a Muslim. I think he's just a dick.
 
Although there are specific sects of Islam I dislike, I don't have a problem with Muslim people overall. Some of the nicest, sweetest people I've ever met were Muslim. I had a best friend in high school who was Muslim as well :up:
 
There were no repercussions for her outburst?

Actually the attending really impressed us. After we walked out the whole group was told to step out (there was a total of 6 of us). While she told her off. She then passed off the patient to another doctor, which is a BIG deal. The President of the school and the chief of medical staff were notified. The school and the hospital were great at responding to it, which is fine and dandy, we all know this isn't the policy or attitude of either institution. It was one patient who is under a LOT of stress, she's been having health problems for years and was in for her 3rd major operation, so I can totally sympathize with her. We checked in on her 2 nights ago and she seems to be doing fine, thank goodness.

It's just been bugging the hell out of me for days now, tho. I guess, since this is the first time that this has happened to me in a hospital...I've been volunteering, working and studing in hospitals since I was 13, I'm 26 now, and I've never had anyone insult my race or religion in this environment. Here it was always my willingness to help, my character, my bedside manner that overcame pettiness.

Usually, I'm pretty good at shrugging these things off, and most of the times I've been able to reverse such negative attitudes, but it really feels like it's building up to epic proportions...I dunno, maybe I'm just paranoid right now.
 
Muslims are good people IMO. It's stupid to separate people by religion.
 
Would this be an issue before 9/11?

Funny how the world changes in 1 day and the media.

I'm a Muslim by the way :)
 
I pity people that have something against Muslims.
 

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