• Xenforo is upgrading us to version 2.3.7 on Thursday Aug 14, 2025 at 01:00 AM BST. This upgrade includes several security fixes among other improvements. Expect a temporary downtime during this process. More info here

Humanity, Amazons and Atlantians

Flash525

The Scarlet Messenger
Joined
Feb 14, 2018
Messages
6,294
Reaction score
2,727
Points
78
Rewatching Wonder Woman, and I rewatched Justice League the other day. There’s obviously stories and showcasing of the Olympian Gods, or the Old Gods as we may come to better know them.

My DC knowledge is a little rusty, and I wouldn’t be surprised if WB or the writers of these big films were allowed a little creative licensing when portraying and explaining Mythology.

Cut to the question though, in Wonder Woman it’s specifically stated (though granted a story) that Zeus created humanity; including the Amazon women and the Atlantan people.

Are we, the viewer, supposed to take that as a literal meaning? Is humanity within the DCEU a product of Zeus and his creativity?
 
Interesting topic. I wonder if the Olympians are gods in DCU, or simply just advanced aliens.
I would go for the latter. If not, why did several of them need to fight Steppenwolf in the past (as mentioned)?
If they really are gods, only one would be enough to crush the villain.

Ares in Wonder Woman seemed to be pure energy in his original form
 
I wonder if the Olympians are gods in DCU, or simply just advanced aliens.

I would go for the latter. If not, why did several of them need to fight Steppenwolf in the past (as mentioned)?

If they really are gods, only one would be enough to crush the villain.
I guess it depends on what we define as a God.

Could it not be summarised that Steppenwolf is also a God? Darkseid is. Their relationship would presumably be similar to Zeus and one of the other Olympian Gods, with Darkseid and Zeus standing tall compared to those below them.

By comparison, couldn’t all Gods be advanced aliens?
 
All gods being advanced aliens?
Not sure about that. The advanced aliens come from a world with a technological development. At some point in time, they were similar to us. Even to our own history. Their society wasn't high tech at the beginning.
With mythological gods, I tend to think they are beings of energy that existed before biological life came to be.
 
Not to dwell too much on which came before the other, but I’m a little confused as to where this concept beings of light came from.

Ares isn’t shown as one - as stated, I’m watching Wonder Woman now, and at no point is Ares portrayed as a being without physical form.

Needless to say, would Gods not presumably need to occupy technology to travel the stars? What are boom tubes?

Are those based on technology, science or some sort of magic and/or sorcery; of which could be technology that’s used in a different fashion and not yet understood.

Take a lighter back to the time of a caveman, and they’d think it was magic.

If you don’t care to think of advanced aliens, how about just aliens? It’s yet to be stated that the Olympian Gods created the Earth and all life on it.

And we’re we made in their physical image? If that’s the case, then are Olympian Gods responsible for the creation of Kryptonians too?; seeing as we share physiology with them.
 
I guess you kinda have to work your way from the top down to define everything. Somebody like Darkseid or the Highfather are supposed to be the embodiment of select ideals and are the peak of the New Gods. It depends on author to author, but Darkseid is supposed to be omnipresent throughout the multiverse and what we see of him on Earth is just him conforming to our laws of physics. Boom tubes are what allows for multi-dimensional travel and allows traveling from within the multiverse to out of it and vice versa.

... I don't think Snyder's Darkseid was going to follow that. So I'm not quite sure what his relation would be between them all. I would assume he'd just be an all encompassing big baddie that's got "god like" strength without the reality bending/omnipresent aspect of it all.

I suppose you could say the Greek Gods on Earth are creations as a result of the Old Gods outside of the multiverse (who created all life and the multiverse as we know it). But, who knows.

I know Snyder was a fan of Kirby's work but I don't know how deep into it he was going to get, especially for a character (or characters) that would have been appearing in the JL films and not in their own dedicated film to explain all of this.
 

Users who are viewing this thread

Back
Top
monitoring_string = "afb8e5d7348ab9e99f73cba908f10802"