thorstone
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There have been rumors that Warner is still snagged up on the Wonder Woman and Aquaman scripts, with their eggs in eight baskets. That could turn out to be good or it could be a bad sign.
I don't think anyone thinks that they should enter these projects without a firm plan for the arc and how things connect together in the timeline (which features an island of amazons, a capsule containing an alien weapon named Doomsday, and the lost city of Atlantis, now in ruin at the bottom of the ocean but not unoccupied).
In Man of Steel they introduced the implication of Kryptonians settling on Earth but I hope they never explicitly link them as the Old Gods. It's enough to say the Old Gods came from the stars. I don't want some DNA test that shows Wonder Woman is descended from Kryptonians, yada yada.
The Link
The link should be the New Gods and the Wonder Woman film is in my opinion the keystone to introducing these characters. The Amazons were created by the Old Gods, the Amazons can be explained as only giving conceiving girls, and Diana Prince's father can be said to not be human. Currently in the comics her father is Zeus. This could be done, if Zeus is presented the right way in the film, or they could assume the Old Gods are all dead in this continuity and change her father to a New God (identity TBD in a later film).
I feel that Warner is having trouble getting over the magic hump with WW and Shazam. Marvel has shown that you don't require magic to transform yourself the way Shazam does, and WW is half alien.
The New Gods provide a whole roster of villains for Wonder Woman, Superman, Green Lantern, Shazam, and Flash. Whether it's Orion, Kalibak, Darkseid, Metron, or the Female Furies. Warner and DC need villains that are super villains.
It seems likely to me that all of the Kryptonian colonies were destroyed by Darkseid and his armies.
Paradise Island
I think the island of Themyscira is easy to explain. The Amazons have long since fled the world of men and found a secluded island to live on, perhaps kept hidden by weather modification or a machine that interferes with magnetic fields and thus navigation equipment. They could go into the world of men and take a husband and have a child if they wish, but they must return the daughter to be raised on the island.
Atlantis
The city of Atlantis is lost to our world but found again by Aquaman. It should have nothing to do with his origin in my opinion-- it is simply a fantastic location at the bottom of the ocean. The way to be faithful to Aquaman's Golden Age origin is to explain that his father and/or mother manipulated his DNA. Aquaman needs to be unique-- he is the lone protector of the sea.
Doomsday
It's an ancient bio-weapon lost for ages that fell to Earth and the US government has found it (maybe Black Adam tries to take it from them because Superman won't do what is right, and Lex Luthor opens it because of the attack).
I don't think anyone thinks that they should enter these projects without a firm plan for the arc and how things connect together in the timeline (which features an island of amazons, a capsule containing an alien weapon named Doomsday, and the lost city of Atlantis, now in ruin at the bottom of the ocean but not unoccupied).
In Man of Steel they introduced the implication of Kryptonians settling on Earth but I hope they never explicitly link them as the Old Gods. It's enough to say the Old Gods came from the stars. I don't want some DNA test that shows Wonder Woman is descended from Kryptonians, yada yada.
The Link
The link should be the New Gods and the Wonder Woman film is in my opinion the keystone to introducing these characters. The Amazons were created by the Old Gods, the Amazons can be explained as only giving conceiving girls, and Diana Prince's father can be said to not be human. Currently in the comics her father is Zeus. This could be done, if Zeus is presented the right way in the film, or they could assume the Old Gods are all dead in this continuity and change her father to a New God (identity TBD in a later film).
I feel that Warner is having trouble getting over the magic hump with WW and Shazam. Marvel has shown that you don't require magic to transform yourself the way Shazam does, and WW is half alien.
The New Gods provide a whole roster of villains for Wonder Woman, Superman, Green Lantern, Shazam, and Flash. Whether it's Orion, Kalibak, Darkseid, Metron, or the Female Furies. Warner and DC need villains that are super villains.
It seems likely to me that all of the Kryptonian colonies were destroyed by Darkseid and his armies.
Paradise Island
I think the island of Themyscira is easy to explain. The Amazons have long since fled the world of men and found a secluded island to live on, perhaps kept hidden by weather modification or a machine that interferes with magnetic fields and thus navigation equipment. They could go into the world of men and take a husband and have a child if they wish, but they must return the daughter to be raised on the island.
Atlantis
The city of Atlantis is lost to our world but found again by Aquaman. It should have nothing to do with his origin in my opinion-- it is simply a fantastic location at the bottom of the ocean. The way to be faithful to Aquaman's Golden Age origin is to explain that his father and/or mother manipulated his DNA. Aquaman needs to be unique-- he is the lone protector of the sea.
Doomsday
It's an ancient bio-weapon lost for ages that fell to Earth and the US government has found it (maybe Black Adam tries to take it from them because Superman won't do what is right, and Lex Luthor opens it because of the attack).
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