I don't understand the Tom Hardy love

Okay, whatever.

Brilliant retort. :o

i have a problem with people saying that he is becoming a good actor. he was a good actor years ago. he is becoming known to SHH users. the GP doesnt care who he is since he is not a movie star. my second problem is Nolan fanatics acting like they been Hardy fans for 15 years.

the only reason why we every day talk about Hardy on SHH is because he is in a batman movie not because he is a good actor. because if it was only about that then there would be a 50 page Bronson thread.
http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=374389&highlight=bronson

Your theory fails. Bronson wasn't a film that was quite popular here in America. The film enjoyed a very limited release.

No, we don't talk about Hardy just because of Batman. We talk about Hardy because he's a grand acting talent. See the highlight reel if you disagree with my notion.
 
Nothing I've seen him do, and I've seen him in Warrior, Bronson, Inception, and Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy, even approaches the early work of Crowe, DiCaprio, and the burgeoning Gosling (Romper Stomper, Gilbert Grape/Basketball Diaries, and The Believer) or even Fassbender's work in Hunger, Inglourious Basterds, and X-Men: First Class, yet this guy is trumpeted as some kind of legend, "the next Brando", etc.


....

Idk how a entire thread was created out that but lol Tom Hardy is, & is well recognized as a fantastic actor. He has huge potential, & with the nerdgasm inducing choices he`s been making recently, he`s just gonna get bigger & bigger in popularity.
 
Yea man, he was a nasty piece of work in that series. As soon as i saw it i just knew he'd be a villain in a big hollywood film one day.

Yeah. He was one despicable, crazy SOB in that series. I'm excited about Hardy as Bane but I'd also like to see him play an unhinged, completely deranged serial killer type (although we don't know for sure, Bane seems a bit more methodical).
 
Yeah, JGL, Hardy, Fassbender, and Gosling are definitely doing their thing. Some great actors.
 
Who said he's only becoming a good actor?

Maybe you are the one obsessed with Nolan, because people praise Fassbender and Cumberbatch too and they are not in a Batman movie, are they? And I don't see countless talk about Aaron Eckhart.
People talk about Tom Hardy because they think he's a great actor and who cares if people know him since Inception or Black Hawk Down, the point is he's a great actor.

People on the boards only started talking about Fassbender once he played Magneto, and in the case of Cumberpatch, when he was cast in the Hobbit and Star Trek. It is the same deal. His Sherlock show had first broadcast a year before people started talking about him on the boards. Once he was cast in the Hobbit and ST, his name started popping up everywhere.

Originally Posted by dark_b said:
i have a problem with people saying that he is becoming a good actor. he was a good actor years ago. he is becoming known to SHH users. the GP doesnt care who he is since he is not a movie star. my second problem is Nolan fanatics acting like they been Hardy fans for 15 years.

the only reason why we every day talk about Hardy on SHH is because he is in a batman movie not because he is a good actor. because if it was only about that then there would be a 50 page Bronson thread.
http://forums.superherohype.com/show...hlight=bronson

Doomsday Apex said:
Your theory fails. Bronson wasn't a film that was quite popular here in America. The film enjoyed a very limited release.

No, we don't talk about Hardy just because of Batman. We talk about Hardy because he's a grand acting talent. See the highlight reel if you disagree with my notion.

I think what he means is that it was the Batman casting that made people aware of him, when in fact he had been acting for years before that. The fact that you have cited that Bronson was a limited release backs up that observation.
He is also implying that there are other great actors out there who are just as good, who are not talked about so much on the boards, because they are not in an upcoming superhero film/Nolan film.

Blue Sugar said:
Not a fan of this kind of elitist attitude. As a huge music-nerd I've encountered it a lot. "I loved this band before they even started playing" – to exaggerate.

Not saying you are an elitist or anything though, you seem like a nice guy but I'm just kinda allergic to comments like this.

I don't think he's being elitist, I think he is bemoaning the fact that there is probably a great young actor out there right now who no-one is checking out, but will happily do so a few years hence, when they are cast in a Nolan film/superhero film.

ie If people are all about the art and not the latest hot thing, they should be checking out the more obscure films.

edit: and by that same token, there is probably some actor who is just as good, who won't get such a popular gig, and as a result their skills will pass by almost uncommented on.
 
Last edited:
Brilliant retort. :o
Do I sense slight sarcasm? Oh no! Whoops. I should've totally spent my time to write a "brilliant retort"....or wait, maybe I'm smart enough to realize my comments of calling him overrated (a vague word that varies from person to person) is just that... a comment; and one can't possibly "retort" to such a comment, brilliantly or not.

"he's overrated"
"no he's not overrated"
"he's overrated"
"no he's not!!"
"he is...imo"
"he's not imo"

I see it already. What a "brilliant" conversation that could've been

I don't think he's being elitist, I think he is bemoaning the fact that there is probably a great young actor out there right now who no-one is checking out, but will happily do so a few years hence, when they are cast in a Nolan film/superhero film.

I definitely agree with this sentiment. Nolan put him on the map and kudos to him! In fact, good for the film industry as a whole because he definitely has some acting talent from what I've seen but I'm never going to think he is as amazing as some of the people might on this board because he's in the next batman movie so of course he is going to have a bigger then expected fan following and approval.
 
Last edited:
Well thanks to him being cast in bigger films, a lot of people have now gone looking for and watched his great work in smaller productions.

Is that a fact that makes Tom's talent somehow lesser? Not really.
 
In the same breath, you don't want to get overexposed either. I assume he chooses projects pretty wisely for the most part, and This Means War was probably an attempt to get his name really out there.
 
In the same breath, you don't want to get overexposed either. I assume he chooses projects pretty wisely for the most part, and This Means War was probably an attempt to get his name really out there.
And end up like Colin Ferrell or Ben Affleck. :o
 
Well thanks to him being cast in bigger films, a lot of people have now gone looking for and watched his great work in smaller productions.

Is that a fact that makes Tom's talent somehow lesser? Not really.

Yeah, I know, but it might mean there are more people out there than we know about, who are just as good. But they will only have their own threads if they happen to get cast in a big budget film.

I guess what he is saying is that it would be nice to see someone getting fawned over as they build up their portfolio, rather than build up their fame.

But, it is the nature of this site, even though we are in Misc films, it is still led by the specific sci-fi/fantasy genre as to what we talk about generally, so it's not surprising, I guess dark_b just wanted to acknowledge that, and remind people there are other films out there to look at.
 
People on the boards only started talking about Fassbender once he played Magneto, and in the case of Cumberpatch, when he was cast in the Hobbit and Star Trek. It is the same deal. His Sherlock show had first broadcast a year before people started talking about him on the boards. Once he was cast in the Hobbit and ST, his name started popping up everywhere.





I think what he means is that it was the Batman casting that made people aware of him, when in fact he had been acting for years before that. The fact that you have cited that Bronson was a limited release backs up that observation.
He is also implying that there are other great actors out there who are just as good, who are not talked about so much on the boards, because they are not in an upcoming superhero film/Nolan film.



I don't think he's being elitist, I think he is bemoaning the fact that there is probably a great young actor out there right now who no-one is checking out, but will happily do so a few years hence, when they are cast in a Nolan film/superhero film.

ie If people are all about the art and not the latest hot thing, they should be checking out the more obscure films.

edit: and by that same token, there is probably some actor who is just as good, who won't get such a popular gig, and as a result their skills will pass by almost uncommented on.

But it's not only the Batman/superhero fans who are talking about Hardy, Fassbender and Cumberbatch, all the films fans are. Why? Because they are particulary great actors! I mean why there is not countless talk about Eckhart?

And so, because most people here did not know them before they got a high profile role, they should not acknowledge their talent? Of course, there's maybe unknow actors who are as good, but people are talking about actors they know. I mean people praise Daniel Day Lewis or Joaquim Phoenix but maybe there's unknow actors who are as good. So we should not praise them because of this?
I'm sorry but I think he's either an elitist or just an another Nolan hater who tried to blame this on Nolan.
 
Well thanks to him being cast in bigger films, a lot of people have now gone looking for and watched his great work in smaller productions.

Is that a fact that makes Tom's talent somehow lesser? Not really.

Exactly!
 
Do I sense slight sarcasm? Oh no! Whoops. I should've totally spent my time to write a "brilliant retort"....or wait, maybe I'm smart enough to realize my comments of calling him overrated (a vague word that varies from person to person) is just that... a comment; and one can't possibly "retort" to such a comment, brilliantly or not.

"he's overrated"
"no he's not overrated"
"he's overrated"
"no he's not!!"
"he is...imo"
"he's not imo"

I see it already. What a "brilliant" conversation that could've been.

Fantastic deduction. Instead of countering my response with reason, you use insecurity. Outstanding, good sir. :o

You praise Fassbender but declare Hardy overrated -- on what grounds? It doesn't even make sense considering Fassbender is far more famous, and both have accomplished just about the same.
 
i personally think fassbender is better than tom he has more range and imo is more of a leading man
 
I think what he means is that it was the Batman casting that made people aware of him, when in fact he had been acting for years before that. The fact that you have cited that Bronson was a limited release backs up that observation.
He is also implying that there are other great actors out there who are just as good, who are not talked about so much on the boards, because they are not in an upcoming superhero film/Nolan film.

That's not entirely true. Hardy's fame might have increased thanks to Nolan and Batman on these types of particular sites, however, those who are 'uneducated' on an actor's past bother to actually do research on his or her filmography. Some are just now catching up on Warrior, This Means War and Bronson for Hardy. For me, I know I did for Fassbender. Prior to First Class, I'd only seen him in a single TV show and movie. Yet, with a name like Gordon-Levitt, I had the opportunity to see him grow as an actor since he wrapped up Third Rock From The Sun.

There are plenty of actors/actresses that don't get recognition until other posters (whether it be a fantasy casting for a reboot or a discussion involving foreign films) mention them.
 
Well Hardy hasn't been Oscar nominated, won BAFTAS and the Volpi Cup. :D

Fassbenger did not get an Oscar nomination but he got a BAFTA nomination. Hardy got a BAFTA nomination for his work for Stuart.

Gary Oldman got his first Oscar nomination this year, I guess before this year he was overrated too.
 
Wait... Fassbender didn't get an Oscar nom for Shame?!?! WHAT?!?!!?!? Why was he on the round table then?

Another reason to not take the Oscars seriously. I put more credence on film festivals like Cannes and Venice than the Oscars. At least you know it's about the art and not ******** studio politics.

I seriously can't believe that. Not only should he have been nominated for Shame, he should have won it. It was the best acting performance by far last year.
 
Well Hardy hasn't been Oscar nominated, won BAFTAS and the Volpi Cup. :D

True, but that doesn't mean Hardy doesn't have that ability. Oldman hasn't won an Oscar (and prior to this year, he's never even been nominated), and he's a legend in the business.
 
I've honestly never seen anyone say Gary Oldman is overrated.

tumblr_lghmbyQr1d1qgmgjuo1_r1_500.gif


There's bound to be a brave soul.
 
Rubbish. Anyone on this site knows i'm not a fan of Nolan's Bat movies. But Hardy is fantastic. As soon as i saw him in The Take i knew he'd one day play a villain in a big Hollywood movie.

Yes so true, The Take was the first thing I saw him in and I was blown away by his performance..
 

Users who are viewing this thread

Members online

Latest posts

Forum statistics

Threads
202,304
Messages
22,082,664
Members
45,882
Latest member
Charles Xavier
Back
Top
monitoring_string = "afb8e5d7348ab9e99f73cba908f10802"