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I'm kind of wishing the Canadian government had not rescued people from Lebanon.

Addendum said:
I'm talking abot what happened at the embassy.

Not dumb boats

There is only so much an embassy can do prior to a conflict at getting nationals out of a country and it can't do anything during a conflict.
 
Slipknot said:
I find it funny that Jonty complains about the people who are complaining. I can't imagine what Jonty would do if he was over there. He watches people getting killed, hearing bombs explode all over the place... Jonty would piss his pants. I love how the good caring Christian heart of Jonty shines brightly yet again in this thread... as he wishes his own government would not help citizens of his own country get out of a war torn area because they complained.

I didn't say that the Canadian government shouldn't help nationals, but the nationals should be grateful for the help received and not gripe how it wasn't good enough.
 
Mrh7448 said:
Well I would consider in a place like this that the embassies should have contingency plans in place. The whole middle east is pretty volatile and they should have some idea of what to expect should events like these occur.

Embassies do have contingency plans in place, but there is only so much they can do and they can usually only help a few people at a time, not 50,000 people simultaneously.

The first place of responsibility is on the person himself. It's up to the person to find out how dangerous a place they plan to visit in the first place and take recommended precautions.
 
Hooligan32 said:
If the Harper governement had the balls it would have denounced Israel's massacre and done what it could to push forward a cease fire in hopes that we wouldn't have to evacuate anyone at all. It's seems a mite hypocritical for them to be saying; "Canadian citizens, it's incredibly dangerous here because Israel is killing indescriminately so pack your **** cause we're getting you out of this terrible hell hole that we're helping to create with our silence."

You mean, fall into place with most of Europe, much of the Middle East and other places and not stand up with an independent opinion?
 
War Lord said:
There is only so much an embassy can do prior to a conflict at getting nationals out of a country and it can't do anything during a conflict.
I know. It must be hard to pick up a telephone and dial a phone number of a person who left their number when they called, and the person answering that call said "Let me take your number down so I can call you back."

There is a specific term for people like that, and they don't exclusively work at embassies...

"****ing lazy-ass"
 
Addendum said:
I know. It must be hard to pick up a telephone and dial a phone number of a person who left their number when they called, and the person answering that call said "Let me take your number down so I can call you back."

There is a specific term for people like that, and they don't exclusively work at embassies...

"****ing lazy-ass"

When there might be 50,000 phone calls to return, it could be difficult.

Let's do a little math.

Assuming that each phone call takes about two minutes to just get enough information to allow the person and their family aboard and let's also assume that each family is on average 3 people, so that's about 16,666 phone calls.

16,666 x 2 minutes is 33,333 minutes, which equals about 555.5 hours of phone calls, which equals 23 days. Even if you had a staff of 10 doing nothing but returning phone calls, it's still going to take about 2.5 days to return every call.
 
War Lord said:
You mean, fall into place with most of Europe, much of the Middle East and other places and not stand up with an independent opinion?
Right, because going against the popular majority is what defines a stance as being right.:rolleyes: Read your posts over before you post them and try to actualy understand what you're saying.
 
War Lord said:
When there might be 50,000 phone calls to return, it could be difficult.

Let's do a little math.

Assuming that each phone call takes about two minutes to just get enough information to allow the person and their family aboard and let's also assume that each family is on average 3 people, so that's about 16,666 phone calls.

16,666 x 2 minutes is 33,333 minutes, which equals about 555.5 hours of phone calls, which equals 23 days. Even if you had a staff of 10 doing nothing but returning phone calls, it's still going to take about 2.5 days to return every call.


I think the call room in a government embassy, especially in a time of crisis, is going to have more than ten people working the phones. Could be wrong, but it just seems to make more sense.
 
Jonty's just making excuses for inefficency because the Canadian government is now one that he likes.

It's typical partisan bull****
 
Darthphere said:
Jonty should run for president, but that would involve leaving his house.
that ain't happening.............computer chair will get cold:o :)
 
And, Jonty continues to reach newer and newer lows as a human being. Way to go, dude! :up:

jag
 
War Lord said:
I didn't say that the Canadian government shouldn't help nationals, but the nationals should be grateful for the help received and not gripe how it wasn't good enough.
It's a human condition. Nothing is ever good enough.


And I agree with you. It's like, they're all complaining about government inefficiency, because that's so much more worthy of complaint than the war zone they were just rescued from. Hm.
 
War Lord said:
There is such a thing as constructice criticism and useless criticism.

Criticizing a government for circumstances that is within their control is constructive criticism. Criticizing a government for things that are beyond their control is useless criticism.

they should say something like

"I hate and despise this country now! I am the Anti-canadian!!!!":):up:

LOL, if this had been the previous governement you would've jumped on their backs, and used this as an excuse to label them "innefectual"

Jeeeeeeeesus Jonty, at least be Honest with yourself.
just look at the change in your custom title and location, and I know Canadians, and some of them disagree with the things the current governement is doing yet none of them are anti-canadians.

guess they're just constructive.:(:up:
 
Hooligan32 said:
Right, because going against the popular majority is what defines a stance as being right.:rolleyes: Read your posts over before you post them and try to actualy understand what you're saying.

Going against popular stance is more likely an independent position that taking the same one as everybody else.

I thought I'd point that out if you weren't aware.
 
bored said:
I think the call room in a government embassy, especially in a time of crisis, is going to have more than ten people working the phones. Could be wrong, but it just seems to make more sense.

Actually, probably not.

Embassies, for routine positions, tend to hire the locals. Unless, the country is very important, don't be surprised if the only staff from a foreign country is the ambassador and secretary, with everybody else (cooks, drivers, and such) being comprised of locals.

It creates employment and goodwill.
 
Addendum said:
Jonty's just making excuses for inefficency because the Canadian government is now one that he likes.

It's typical partisan bull****

I only complain about my government when it's about something that's under their control.
 
Mr Sparkle said:
they should say something like

"I hate and despise this country now! I am the Anti-canadian!!!!":):up:

LOL, if this had been the previous governement you would've jumped on their backs, and used this as an excuse to label them "innefectual"

Jeeeeeeeesus Jonty, at least be Honest with yourself.
just look at the change in your custom title and location, and I know Canadians, and some of them disagree with the things the current governement is doing yet none of them are anti-canadians.

guess they're just constructive.:(:up:

I am also now constructive.
 
jaguarr said:
And, Jonty continues to reach newer and newer lows as a human being. Way to go, dude! :up:

jag

I like achieving, it makes me feel good.
 
War Lord said:
Silly patriots, going to volitile countries and expecting peace and expecting to be rescued by their countries despite their stupidity.


i agree. alot of people are complaining about the government not doing anything, you go to another country thats having wars at your own discretion, a country should'nt be obligated to save your ass when you went there at your own expense anyways.
you know you country has been involved in turmoil for centuries, you shouldve gotten your ass at the first sign of trouble.
 

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