In the Kitchen with DKDetective and InCali: All Things Food, Wine, and Spirits, Etc.

Discussion in 'SHH Community Forum' started by DKDetective, Aug 11, 2020.

  1. InCali I got a pUpgrade!

    Joined:
    Aug 7, 2014
    Messages:
    25,925
    Likes Received:
    16,049
    I had a vision of some little, unused, 4 burner electric stove that sat unnoticed in the corner of @flickchick85 s kitchen. I have a 48", 6 burner Thermador with a griddle (only the griddle is electric) and with 2 ovens (which comes in handy sometimes). The burner output is almost 20,000 BTU which comes in really handy when you want to flash-fry.

    I sound like some car guy. LOL. I could care less about cars.
     
    DKDetective likes this.
  2. MissMarvelous Alienated

    Joined:
    Feb 26, 2019
    Messages:
    10,069
    Likes Received:
    1,253
    how much would that be?
     
  3. InCali I got a pUpgrade!

    Joined:
    Aug 7, 2014
    Messages:
    25,925
    Likes Received:
    16,049
    It depends on how much you're making. I usually use about 3 cloves. I put the finishing touches on after the tomato is added. It usually needs a little fine tuning. It just depends how much you like garlic.
     
  4. InCali I got a pUpgrade!

    Joined:
    Aug 7, 2014
    Messages:
    25,925
    Likes Received:
    16,049
    I wonder what your arteries look like. :wow:
     
  5. flickchick85 Admin of Might

    Joined:
    Jun 16, 2007
    Messages:
    50,300
    Likes Received:
    39,713
    Oh hell no I ain't vegan. The meal service just so happens to be vegan. But when I'm not eating that, I'm eating regular ol' meaty take-out. :hehe:

    Not even a little! :oldrazz: I'm sure it's delicious, though.
     
  6. KRYPTON INC. Incorporated Kryptonian

    Joined:
    May 23, 2013
    Messages:
    85,991
    Likes Received:
    41,391
    This joke writes itself...

    But I'm too classy to make it.
     
    flickchick85 likes this.
  7. KRYPTON INC. Incorporated Kryptonian

    Joined:
    May 23, 2013
    Messages:
    85,991
    Likes Received:
    41,391
    When everybody left the nest to spread your wings and fly anyone do what I did and get a crash course from mom and grandma on all your favorite home cooked meals?
     
  8. DKDetective Elementary, Dear Robin (he/him/his)

    Joined:
    Jul 8, 2011
    Messages:
    8,577
    Likes Received:
    10,180
    I am extremely jealous of the sounds of that stove. I wanted to get something like when my wife and I built our house 4 years ago. She said it was too extravagant. :argh:

    I was able to convince her to let me get me a pretty nice 5-burner KitchenAid dual fuel range with removable griddle and warming drawer. However, it has become apparent to both of us that I need something bigger given my obsessive nature with my hobbies. A second oven would make life so much easier. I grew up in a two oven household. My Grandma convinced my Dad to let her keep her old electric stove in the basement laundry room. She used it for all of the big holiday roasts, while using the oven in the kitchen for the sides, desserts, and the like.

    I have perfect 120/80 blood pressure actually. :hehe:

    It's the French Paradox, man! Red wine, natural foods, low sugar, no processed foods, no trans fats, lots of farm fresh organic produce and you can eat good amounts of short chain, natural saturated fats like butter and cream (in relative moderation of course).
     
  9. MissMarvelous Alienated

    Joined:
    Feb 26, 2019
    Messages:
    10,069
    Likes Received:
    1,253
    I like just a hint of it, not eating the whole bunch of cloves. The problem with garlic is not only the heartburn (in my case) but also the dragon breath.

    Particularly, one of my friends always dresses nice, smells nice, she's always looking flawless but you can tell that she eats garlic on a regular basis. Guuurl, you may want to stop eating it.

    Same happens when people that eat too much onion, even raw onions.
     
    DKDetective likes this.
  10. InCali I got a pUpgrade!

    Joined:
    Aug 7, 2014
    Messages:
    25,925
    Likes Received:
    16,049
    I've never had heartburn, but probably wouldn't know if I had garlic breath (I brushed my teeth after I got your message LOL). Like I said, to taste.

    This recipe makes quite a lot of sauce. It basically fills a large skillet so it doesn't seem like a lot to me (but might seem like a lot to people when I'm talking to them :cwink: ).
     
    DKDetective likes this.
  11. MissMarvelous Alienated

    Joined:
    Feb 26, 2019
    Messages:
    10,069
    Likes Received:
    1,253
    ahha well done, but it comes from the stomach :p

    I can't deny that the smell of oil/garlic is mouthwatering! Also butter/garlic combination is a very good one too.
     
    DKDetective likes this.
  12. InCali I got a pUpgrade!

    Joined:
    Aug 7, 2014
    Messages:
    25,925
    Likes Received:
    16,049
    Since when?
     
    KRYPTON INC. likes this.
  13. InCali I got a pUpgrade!

    Joined:
    Aug 7, 2014
    Messages:
    25,925
    Likes Received:
    16,049
    I got spoiled.....

    They're pretty expensive, but if you use it a lot. It's worth it. We've had ours for about 12 years or so. They also usually come with discounts and rebates and so forth.
     
    #38 InCali, Aug 12, 2020
    Last edited: Aug 12, 2020
    DKDetective likes this.
  14. KRYPTON INC. Incorporated Kryptonian

    Joined:
    May 23, 2013
    Messages:
    85,991
    Likes Received:
    41,391
    ...

    ...

    ...

    I...

    ...

    ...

    ...

    The truth hurts.

    (Cries in corner.)
     
    InCali likes this.
  15. MissMarvelous Alienated

    Joined:
    Feb 26, 2019
    Messages:
    10,069
    Likes Received:
    1,253
    Nope, but I wish I had! I had a few crying episodes over uncooked meat/pasta/potatoes. unsalted dishes, I still don't know how much rice I am supposed to cook for ONE, or pasta - for that matter.

    There are a lot of tricks that mums know, like: don't buy regular/cheap minced meat and get the expensive one because it doesn't have that much grease. Don't get the light green broccoli that's gonna taste bitter because the little flowers are open. You get the picture.
     
    DKDetective likes this.
  16. KRYPTON INC. Incorporated Kryptonian

    Joined:
    May 23, 2013
    Messages:
    85,991
    Likes Received:
    41,391
    My family as a child was very concentrated in the brownstone my parents owned. My dad and mom, grandma and then myself and my brother and sister... But also two of my mother's unmarried sisters, her married sister and her two kids and husband, and my grandmother's youngest son.

    So you can imagine what shopping was like. We were guaranteed two full shopping carts of foodstuff after coming back from Pathmark each week.

    So grams was way used to cooking with giant amounts. She also raised 7 kids of her own. She never cooked for less than 6 people at any meal.

    Fast forward to my highschool years. Now it is just mom, dad, gram and me living in another state. Well... This was a huge adjustment for grandma. She needed time to get used to cooking smaller amounts in smaller pots and pans.

    She did it all (and still does) everything by eye and to taste. Nothing is written down. That precision is what makes a difference. Cooks like grandma just DO. Tell 'em how many people generally and they can wing it no problem. But if you have the full portion amounts of ingredients available with a little math you can adjust with a lot more precision.


    *Edit.

    I just read that last part again. I think I'm not clear.

    What I mean is cooks like my grandma learned by doing from their mothers. As such it's more osmosis so to speak than following a recipe to a T. The thing is when you do it all by eye adjusting for the amount you want to make can get tricky especially going down in the amount made. With recipes you can just do some simple math with the amount of ingredients listed.
     
    #41 KRYPTON INC., Aug 12, 2020
    Last edited: Aug 12, 2020
  17. DKDetective Elementary, Dear Robin (he/him/his)

    Joined:
    Jul 8, 2011
    Messages:
    8,577
    Likes Received:
    10,180
    You might want to try making garlic confit. Confit is a French term for basically slow poaching a food item in fat. It is a traditional method of preserving food for the winter.

    You take a cup of peeled garlic cloves and you cover them in a small saucepot with about 2 cups of good grapeseed or olive oil (you want an inch of oil above the garlic). Slow cook on medium-low heat for about 40 mins. Stir occasionally. You don't want the oil to smoke bubble, or otherwise fry. You just want small tiny bubbles to rise from the garlic while it cooks.

    The end result is that you will have soft, tender garlic, with a mild, smoother flavour ready in use in marinades, cooking, or even as garnishes as well as a nice little batch of homemade garlic oil. The garlic if stored in the oil in an airtight container is preserved and can last a long time.
     
    MissMarvelous87 and KRYPTON INC. like this.
  18. KRYPTON INC. Incorporated Kryptonian

    Joined:
    May 23, 2013
    Messages:
    85,991
    Likes Received:
    41,391
    Heard the term before but honestly never knew what it was.

    Thanks Mr. Wizard.
     
  19. MissMarvelous Alienated

    Joined:
    Feb 26, 2019
    Messages:
    10,069
    Likes Received:
    1,253
    Thank you, guys! You have some good tips.
     
  20. MissMarvelous Alienated

    Joined:
    Feb 26, 2019
    Messages:
    10,069
    Likes Received:
    1,253
    Tell me about it!
     
  21. DKDetective Elementary, Dear Robin (he/him/his)

    Joined:
    Jul 8, 2011
    Messages:
    8,577
    Likes Received:
    10,180
    Thanks. I'm no wizard. To answer your other question about mothers and grandmothers passing down knowledge and skills, I'm just the result of what happens if you stick around in the kitchen with Grandma learning all of her secrets for about 17 years (age 8 to 25).

    On the topic of transmission of culinary knowledge generationally, it was actually the foundation of French cuisine in Lyon, France. Lyon is regarded as the gastronomic capital of the world. Most of the greatest French chefs are from the area around Lyon: Fernand Point, Paul Bocuse, Daniel Boulud, Alain Chapel, The Troisgros Brothers, etc., etc. The list goes on endlessly. What a lot of people don't know is that most of these great, famous male chefs were taught to cook by "Les Meres".

    In the 19th and early 20th centuries, the Lyon restaurant scene was dominated by former domestic cooks from the homes of the rich and powerful. These domestic cooks were typically matronly women from poor agricultural backgrounds that went into service as a way of improving their lot. They would cook based on what they learned on the farm and what was passed down to them by head cooks under which they apprenticed.

    Restaurants are a relatively recent invention European society. After the French Revolution, with the rise of restaurants, a lot of these matronly figures struck out on their own and opened restaurants. They became known as Les Meres Lyonnaises (the "Mother of Lyon"). The most famous of which is La Mere Brazier. When the Michelin Guide was invented in the 1930s, she was one of the first chefs to be awarded 3 stars (the top award) for her restaurant. She opened another restaurant and it received the same top award. Her restaurants held that top ranking for over thirty years, when she was nearing retirement. For almost 50 years, it was a feat no other chef matched that achievement.
     
    KRYPTON INC. likes this.
  22. KRYPTON INC. Incorporated Kryptonian

    Joined:
    May 23, 2013
    Messages:
    85,991
    Likes Received:
    41,391

    See it is funny you mention picking it up from paying attention in the kitchen. When I left home I told mom and grandma to give me lessons on how to cook my favorites, as I said. I didn't tell you grandma's answer though.

    "You should have been paying attention all this time."

    Well... She got me on that one.
     
    DKDetective and RetrogradeOrbit like this.
  23. DKDetective Elementary, Dear Robin (he/him/his)

    Joined:
    Jul 8, 2011
    Messages:
    8,577
    Likes Received:
    10,180
    Okay, grandma secret number 1, when peeling potatoes, turnips, etc., use a paring knife, not a peeler. With some simple practice and proper technique, you will be faster, cleaner, and safer.

    For amazing instructions on the proper knife technique, see Jacques Pepin:


    Pepin is an OG chef and culinary instructor. He was the chef at La Pavillon, the French restaurant in NYC where the Kennedys used to hang out in the 1950s and 1960s and was lifelong friends with Julia Child.

    You want to know how badass Pepin is? In the above video, he is 83 years old, a recent stroke victim, and he shows up a professional cook a third his age.

    Yes, you read that, right, these are his knife skills after arthritis and a stroke... :wow:

    Anyone wanna guess where in France he is from? :oldrazz:
     
    KRYPTON INC. likes this.
  24. MissMarvelous Alienated

    Joined:
    Feb 26, 2019
    Messages:
    10,069
    Likes Received:
    1,253
    Lyon?
     
    DKDetective likes this.
  25. DKDetective Elementary, Dear Robin (he/him/his)

    Joined:
    Jul 8, 2011
    Messages:
    8,577
    Likes Received:
    10,180
    Got it in one! :highfive:

    Technically, he is from Bourg-en-Bresse, a town near Lyon. It is where the famous blue-footed Bresse chickens are from. But he is still Lyonnais in all the ways it matters.
     
    MissMarvelous87 likes this.

Share This Page

  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.
    Dismiss Notice
  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.
    Dismiss Notice
monitoring_string = "afb8e5d7348ab9e99f73cba908f10802"