Iran slags off "300" as being racist and psychological warfare against their country

[Fantasyartist]

An aide to Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad denounced the "300" as being racist and amounting to"psychological warfare" against their country, according to an item I saw in yesterday's Metro. This reminds me of Soviet charges that "Rambo" "Rocky" or some other Hollywood film/book/TV series/newspaper incited"war psychosis" or "fanned the flames of the Cold War" against the "peace-loving Socialist Bloc".
Personally I think that much like the late unlamented( except by George Galloway and Vladimir Putin) Soviet Union, those fellows in Teheran need to cool their jets and recognise the idea of irony( or is that too much for Islamic fundamentalists?)
Just because it deals with Greeks fighting Persians( the ancestors of today's Iranians), should NOT be taken as endorsement of anything against the current regime in Teheran!

Anybody think as I do?

Terry

 

[Mr. Socko]

Right now people are yelling "OMG TEH WITE GREKS R RACIST!!!"

I'm starting to think they seriously need to do another POV with this movie like Clint Eastwood did. The next one, we could see the battle from the persian's point of view.

Then people would yell "OMG TEH BLAK PERSANS R RACIST!!!"

 

[Speedball]

Good, because it is.

 

[Nivek]

At this point, does anyone care what insults Iran? For a "noble" Islamic nation, they certainly whine alot. Thin skinned, anyone?

 

[Speedball]

At this point, does anyone care what insults Iran? For a "noble" Islamic nation, they certainly whine alot. Thin skinned, anyone?

LOL!
They complain more than my little brother.
It's like they're fanboys or something.

 

[Lt. Figgnuts]

LOL!
They complain more than my little brother.
It's like they're fanboys or something.

ROFL.

I love how much research this aide did, too.

One quick Google search might've informed him that this is a nearly panel-for-panel reconstruction of a graphic novel from nearly a decade ago.

Apparently Mr. Miller is something of a modern-day Nostrodamus. And apparently not one person who has ever, ever read the graphic novel has ever realized what Miller was really trying to say - naturally, because we're a bunch of capitalist, imperialist morons. But one look at that baby and any Iranian knows the real score.

Good job, guys. Good job.

 

[Infinity9999x]

Yes boys and girls, Iran has stumbled upon the truth.

The next world war will not be faught on the battlefield, nor in nuclear warfare, and not even with biological weapons...it will be faught in.....


HOLLYWOOD! (dum dum duuuuuuummmmmmmmmmm)

Yes, we make a movie about beefy white men in speedoes beating the ***** out of Persians that look like Orcs, they make movies about dudes that blow up buildings in America, and then we make a movie about Americans sleeping with their mothers.....and the cycle will continue....

 

[Asteroid-Man]

Well, it kinda did butcher the culture. It ruined the historical events on their part and it is racist. Many of the film makers have done and said racist things. Especially the guy who plays Leonidas. It isn't really "warfare" but it was pretty horrid. Good movie though. And when one Iranian or a few in charge (government) you can't say all of Iran feels that way. The Gov is crap there

 

[jnpoe]

Especially the guy who plays Leonidas. It isn't really "warfare" but it was pretty horrid.

What did He say ?

 

[Asteroid-Man]

I don't have quotes written down and I'm not your personal buttler. Look it up yourself, cupcake.

 

[Bubonic]

Well, there is a few things to consider.

Even though Miller did the graphic novel 10 years ago, at that point Arabs had been propagandized against for many years in Hollywood.

To be fair, it is common practice for any leading world power to demonize countries they view as threats, just check your old comics, most of the villains were Soviets.

One of the major problems is the monstrous depiction of the Persians, their dehumanization, whereas the Spartans, who are parallel to the U.S. are quite the perfect specimens.

If you look at old war propaganda, it wouldn't be rare to see depictions of ape or monster like Germans or Japanese, and surely Russians too.

As for Iranian sensitivity, it is sort of warranted. They have seen how easily the U.S. and its allies smeared Iraq, they know the U.S. has plans for them, and they know the Middle East bulldog Israel is just waiting for the OK to wipe them out.
Regardless of your political views, and whether all this is justified, admittedly it is a very scary position to be in.

And any perceived attempt to further push the American public towards acceptance of an American occupation of Iran will be taken seriously.

I think the problem is that people don't fully understand how administrations constantly work at forming public opinion towards their end. A democratic government cannot accomplish much without the manufactured consent of its people.

 

[juarez]

You're pretty much on the spot with that. I just hate it when people read way too much into a movie. It makes me worry that Hollywood is going to get so paranoid over being criticized for their films that they'll shy away from anything that could ever possibly offend someone.

People who argue about political correctness gone mad and the fact that it's harder to get away with offending people these days are mostly concerned that they can't say the same racist, homophobic and xenophobic things their parents do without consequences. It amuses me to no end when heterosexual, caucasian men complain that people today are too damn sensitive and people should be allowed to say what they want. I mean, when's the last time heterosexual, caucasian men were demonised by the media and had to worry about being persecuted? ( note: Im not attacking the previous poster personally, just commenting on the phenomenon of the "moral majority" complaining about freedom of speech in general )

 

[Blade_fan1911]

They should have did this in 98........when the GN came out.

 

[Mr. Socko]

Well, there is a few things to consider.

Even though Miller did the graphic novel 10 years ago, at that point Arabs had been propagandized against for many years in Hollywood.

To be fair, it is common practice for any leading world power to demonize countries they view as threats, just check your old comics, most of the villains were Soviets.

One of the major problems is the monstrous depiction of the Persians, their dehumanization, whereas the Spartans, who are parallel to the U.S. are quite the perfect specimens.

If you look at old war propaganda, it wouldn't be rare to see depictions of ape or monster like Germans or Japanese, and surely Russians too.

As for Iranian sensitivity, it is sort of warranted. They have seen how easily the U.S. and its allies smeared Iraq, they know the U.S. has plans for them, and they know the Middle East bulldog Israel is just waiting for the OK to wipe them out.
Regardless of your political views, and whether all this is justified, admittedly it is a very scary position to be in.

And any perceived attempt to further push the American public towards acceptance of an American occupation of Iran will be taken seriously.

I think the problem is that people don't fully understand how administrations constantly work at forming public opinion towards their end. A democratic government cannot accomplish much without the manufactured consent of its people.

Yeah, like how they dispatch and kill the children who aren't "perfect", yep, that's just like the US alright.

The only reason the greeks were portrayed with very little faults is because those who do have faults are basically, thrown out.

People always over look that bit.

If the Persians had threw away everyone with faults as well, then they would have too been portrayed in the "perfect" manner.

 

[Bubonic]

Yeah, like how they dispatch and kill the children who aren't "perfect", yep, that's just like the US alright.

The only reason the greeks were portrayed with very little faults is because those who do have faults are basically, thrown out.

People always over look that bit.

If the Persians had threw away everyone with faults as well, then they would have too been portrayed in the "perfect" manner.

As a matter of fact, before the Germans took the eugenics movement to the next horrible step, one of its biggest supporters were the U.S. , and they actively engaged in different sterilization programs and other such things. As did my country Canada.

Obviously it was not so extreme as in the Spartan case.
Furthermore, the whole "freedom fighter" theme is a more obvious connection to modern day America.
Sure it is historically rooted, but it is a well time release which coincides with Americas spread of "democracy".

Even though I personally don't think any nation in the Middle East was ever going to be able to change our way of life, the media has certainly done its job in convincing us that they would.

Plus think of how you felt after the movie, I consider myself pretty moderate, I'm Canadian, yet I still said something to the effect of, "hell, sign me up, lets go wreck Iran!" It was said jokingly, and I've seen the same sort of though process here, and on other boards as well.

Oh, and there is definitely more to the depiction of the Persians then them not killing their babies. The bulk of the Persians were literally depicted as monsters. That ain't cuz they weren't practicing eugenics, that is the image the artist wanted to put forward to the audience.

Plus the whole idea that throwing out the weakest babies will produce the strongest men is proven to be bs. Sure, if it doesn't have legs or something, but if it is small it has just as much chance to form into a huge individual, my dad for example was quite underweight, like 5lbs or something sickly, and in his prime he was 6'7" 245lbs of athletic muscle and a great football player, go figure.

 

[Star]

three words--> get over it

 

[Bubonic]

I don't see why I am being met with condescension just for intelligently analyzing the situation.

Sure I may very well be looking too deep into it, but at least I am not just making statements without trying to back them up with logic.

And who knows, there is as much proof that this isn't a propaganda piece as there is that it isn't.
These are times of war, and if the last century told us anything, propaganda has been one of its most important tools.

 

[Mr. Socko]

You mean the Persians weren't really monsters with hook arms and rode on 30 foot tall elephants

 

[Bubonic]

Yes you smartass I realize people are intelligent enough to know Persians weren't god damned monsters.
Point being lesser minds may internalize the outward depictions of the movie to be an adequate representation of the inner being of Iranians.

 

[Mr. Socko]

Lesser minds like yourself?


Now in the wise words of Agent Sands, "F*** off kid"

 

[Bubonic]

Lesser minds like yourself?


Now in the wise words of Agent Sands, "F*** off kid"

I don't see why you've singled me out in such an ignorant manner. I got abrasive I admit, but your treating me like an idiot.

If you disagree with what I say, challenge the points you think I am wrong about by stating your perspective.

Maybe it's your online persona to act like this, but I don't see the point of getting into fights on the internet. For someone calling me kid, your the one being immature.

All your doing is getting off topic and messing up the thread.

 

[Joker]

How about this one...I bet 90% of Americans werent even aware Persia is now modern day Iran until they started moaning about it...

 

[demitri_vampiro]

well the way i see it, they is nothing to whine about. the movie is told by a soldier. he tells how he expirienced the battles. as we know in greek time people loved to make good things nicer than they are and bad things worse. in every war, the enemy will be displayed evil and like monsters. 300 is seen through greek eyes.
eventually persians were conquerers and thus bad.

 

[Nivek]

Is everyone oblivious to the line in the movie that noted they filed their teeth and carved up their own faces to look more fierce in combat?

I think of the immortals as being nothing more than F'ed-up Orient Cultured Assassin Monk-Soldier guys. I heard one little kid describe them as Ancient Ninja. maybe they were like Bizarro Spartans, where they we're all mountain dwelling and closed off from the world inbred mutant warrior culture and stuff, and Xerxes found them. He obviously enjoyed being surrounded by things he thought of as unique as himself, and somehow got them to be his Iron Fist. I love the Image, and how they could've gone really wild, but stuck to Franks vision, and they looked awesome. All the different warrior cultures were awesome to see in battle, I don't think of them as Evil as much being there because Xerxes conquered them.

 

[Memphis Slim]

I saw this on the History channel last week. Not the movie.

Fact: The Persians were the superior army in "number".

Fact: The Persian were engineering geniouses building that bridge across the water using small boats.

Fact: They were brutal. They invented crucifixion. they actually impaled their victims on poles.

Fact: They were the invaders.....the aggressors.

Fact: The Persians relied to heavily on numbers to win battles. Thus they were too ill-equpped for hand-to-hand combat. No armor.....poor head protection.....no shields..... Spartans were dressed like Tony Stark. They had broad 2-edged swords, Proper head protection, long spears to stab over their sheilds or under the shields.

Fact: Persians got what they deserved. Shoulda stayed home.


Fact: SCREW IRAN AND WHAT THEY WANT!