Is Anarchism a pratical ideology?

[The Overlord]

Do you think anarchism is a pratical ideology?

 

[PemLam]

Do you think anarchism is a pratical ideology?

Have you ever met a "practical" anarchist...seems like practicality would be going against the grain of anarchy.

 

[Carcharodon]

No, as its inevitable outcome would be some form of re-established control and order. It may be possible for a short while, if at all, but the change would almost immediately reverse itself.

 

[jaguarr]

No, it's not. It's a nice, over-romanticized idea but it always fails in practice.

jag

 

[The Overlord]

Have you ever met a "practical" anarchist...seems like practicality would be going against the grain of anarchy.

That's one thing I never understood about anarchism, no one has given a good explaination on how it would work. High minded ideals are fine, but feasiblity is what ultimately counts in this world.

 

[Ghostvirus]

Chaos is what is needed in order to evolve, but it can't be a way of life.

 

[PemLam]

That's one thing I never understood about anarchism, no one has given a good explaination on how it would work. High minded ideals are fine, but feasiblity is what ultimately counts in this world.

I don't see how it can work in any way...it's lawlessness and disorder in its purest form. Ideologies are derived from shared views and characteristics; anarchy by definition eliminates that possibility.

 

[Gilpesh]

No Anarchy is not practical at all. People who think it will work are idiots. The smarter folks know that anarchy is only just a way to change the system completely and install a different one. Kinda like the comic V for Vendetta.

 

[PLAS]

I don't know, but all the "anarchists" I've ever known happen to be unemployed, unproductive members of society, who usually play in hard core, crust or the like bands

whose instruments are either borrowed or bought by their parents


strange, little thing, right?

 

[Figs]

No, as its inevitable outcome would be some form of re-established control and order. It may be possible for a short while, if at all, but the change would almost immediately reverse itself.

No Anarchy is not practical at all. People who think it will work are idiots. The smarter folks know that anarchy is only just a way to change the system completely and install a different one. Kinda like the comic V for Vendetta.

Both those statements are true. I couldn't help but laugh back when I was in High School seeing all the fools and kids who thought they were cool because they had a shirt or patch with an anarchy symbol on it.

 

[AhabTheArab]

glorious chaos....

 

[TLATOANI]

I think is not a practical idea

 

[bullets]

i think people go along with the idea of anarchy to make a radical change.
they want to move everything to a chaotic state to seize the role of leadership. if not then it is totally pointless.

 

[Noir]

Ever anarchist knows that all practical ideals lead to Anarchism. Rome, Greece, Egypt, all great things eventually end in chaos, Anarchism is just the belief in skipping the middle man.

 

[Carcharodon]

Ever anarchist knows that all practical ideals lead to Anarchism. Rome, Greece, Egypt, all great things eventually end in chaos, Anarchism is just the belief in skipping the middle man.

It can never last, however. We're stuck in this sort of perpetual cycle that you've described. To me, that eliminates the ideology itself from practicality.

 

[Kritish]

Anarchism leads to chaos and violence, and someone will always attempt to regain control.

Check out Somalia sometime in you need proof, it hasn't had a stable government in a decade. Does it look like any fun to you?

 

[Kritish]

I don't know, but all the "anarchists" I've ever known happen to be unemployed, unproductive members of society, who usually play in hard core, crust or the like bands

whose instruments are either borrowed or bought by their parents


strange, little thing, right?

Exactly, 99.9 percent of self-proclaimed anarchists are just dumb ass punk rockers.

 

[Superhobo]

Actually, it did work for a while in Spain. It only ended, not because someone from the inside tried to re-establish control, but because of the fascists. The idea of this thread, it seems to me, is that everyone in here is familiar with just the 'punks.' You know, the guys who wear patches on their shirts, etc., etc.

I don't do that. I work, I go to school, I don't wear all black clothes or patches on my shirt, and my theories all come from Mikhail Bakunin, who was the originator of anarcho-collectivism, and teachers from the old schools of thought.

I know a lot of people buy into the whole slacker 'anarchist' thing as well, because certain parts of the thing can well be taken as an excuse for laziness, and etc., but not all anarchists are like that. It's like Lewis Black said about the Jews and the OT. There are real anarchists among you, ask them, and they will take time out of their anarchic, anarchic day to interpret the ideology for you.

 

[Superhobo]

Anarchism leads to chaos and violence, and someone will always attempt to regain control.

Check out Somalia sometime in you need proof, it hasn't had a stable government in a decade. Does it look like any fun to you?

I've always thought that the reason for Somalia was because it just wasn't going to work to begin with, no matter what happened. They had no set structure or ideas to go by; it was basically revolution, and then "well, where do we go from here?" "Ah, who cares? SHANK."

 

[bullets]

Actually, it did work for a while in Spain. It only ended, not because someone from the inside tried to re-establish control, but because of the fascists. The idea of this thread, it seems to me, is that everyone in here is familiar with just the 'punks.' You know, the guys who wear patches on their shirts, etc., etc.

I don't do that. I work, I go to school, I don't wear all black clothes or patches on my shirt, and my theories all come from Mikhail Bakunin, who was the originator of anarcho-collectivism, and teachers from the old schools of thought.

I know a lot of people buy into the whole slacker 'anarchist' thing as well, because certain parts of the thing can well be taken as an excuse for laziness, and etc., but not all anarchists are like that. It's like Lewis Black said about the Jews and the OT. There are real anarchists among you, ask them, and they will take time out of their anarchic, anarchic day to interpret the ideology for you.

so please interpret anarchy because (according to you )we all assumed that the only existing anarchists were the kids in the hall.

 

[Kritish]

Actually, it did work for a while in Spain. It only ended, not because someone from the inside tried to re-establish control, but because of the fascists. The idea of this thread, it seems to me, is that everyone in here is familiar with just the 'punks.' You know, the guys who wear patches on their shirts, etc., etc.

I don't do that. I work, I go to school, I don't wear all black clothes or patches on my shirt, and my theories all come from Mikhail Bakunin, who was the originator of anarcho-collectivism, and teachers from the old schools of thought.

I know a lot of people buy into the whole slacker 'anarchist' thing as well, because certain parts of the thing can well be taken as an excuse for laziness, and etc., but not all anarchists are like that. It's like Lewis Black said about the Jews and the OT. There are real anarchists among you, ask them, and they will take time out of their anarchic, anarchic day to interpret the ideology for you.

The only way that anarchy would work is if every person within that society behaves rationally and does the right thing. There's nothing in human history that suggests that's possible on the large scale. In America lost its government and laws it would look just like Somalia within a few weeks.

 

[Superhobo]

so please interpret anarchy because (according to you )we all assumed that the only existing anarchists were the kids in the hall.

Well, there's Noam Chomsky, Leo Tolstoy (who came up with Christian anarchism, which is a very novel idea), and a whole lot of other famous "old people" who are renowned for their intelligence and great writing, they're anarchists.

 

[Tropico]

I've always thought that the reason for Somalia was because it just wasn't going to work to begin with, no matter what happened. They had no set structure or ideas to go by; it was basically revolution, and then "well, where do we go from here?" "Ah, who cares? SHANK."

Anarchy has structure?

 

[bullets]

"a form of government or constitution in which public and private consciousness, formed through the development of science and law, is alone sufficient to maintain order and guarantee all liberties. In it, as a consequence, the institutions of the police, preventive and repressive methods, officialdom, taxation, etc., are reduced to a minimum. In it, more especially, the forms of monarchy and intensive centralization disappear, to be replaced by federal institutions and a pattern of life based on the commune."


you decide

 

[Superhobo]

The only way that anarchy would work is if every person within that society behaves rationally and does the right thing. There's nothing in human history that suggests that's possible on the large scale. In America lost its government and laws it would look just like Somalia within a few weeks.

I always laugh at this excuse. Yeah, people are crazy. But, people are also rational. You're rational. I'm rational. It's not like we'd degenerate into savagery.