John Carter : A Princess of Mars

[darkseid26]

this sound interesting, think i'll check out the books

 

[terry78]

Please tell me, are these series of books too kiddie or what? I like sci fi/adventure/fantasy/romance stories, and this sounds interesting and entertaining, but I wonder if there is some substance to it. I just don't want to waste my time reading shallow books.

IF you know Burrough's work, you wouldn't axe that question.

 

[stargazer]

IF you know Burrough's work, you wouldn't axe that question.

Exactly, I don't. Do you? And if you do, Can you tell me more about it, please?

Granted, I've seen some of the Tarzan movies, but I don't know how close those are to the books.

 

[green]

Exactly, I don't. Do you? And if you do, Can you tell me more about it, please?

Granted, I've seen some of the Tarzan movies, but I don't know how close those are to the books.

I would recommend this.
http://www.amazon.com/Under-Moons-B...=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1244928242&sr=1-1
It actually collects the first three books in the Mars series, A Princess of Mars, The Gods of Mars and The Warlord of Mars.
They arent hard reads that's for sure but are extremely entertaining. You also have to remember that the first one was written in 1912, this is before the term sci-fi even existed so some of the "science" may seem a bit out dated. Ive never heard any one who has read them that is a fan of the genre that didnt love them. Ill warn you though, I believe there are 11 or 12 total books in the series, the first 5 are pretty easy to find, the rest good luck.
You might want to skim through this as well.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barsoom

 

[Ratcrawler]

Not very. At all. The closest ones missed several points.

But that's a different animal.

For an adequate overview of the series and themes, and even if you want to read the first few books online, click here...

http://erblist.com/erbmania/barsoom.html

 

[Ratcrawler]

http://popzone.blogspot.com/2009/06/thomas-haden-church-in-john-carter-of.html

Looks like Sandman is going to Mars too. Kantos Kan? Tardos Mors? Voice of Tars Tarkas?

 

[stargazer]

I would recommend this.
http://www.amazon.com/Under-Moons-B...=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1244928242&sr=1-1
It actually collects the first three books in the Mars series, A Princess of Mars, The Gods of Mars and The Warlord of Mars.
They arent hard reads that's for sure but are extremely entertaining. You also have to remember that the first one was written in 1912, this is before the term sci-fi even existed so some of the "science" may seem a bit out dated. Ive never heard any one who has read them that is a fan of the genre that didnt love them. Ill warn you though, I believe there are 11 or 12 total books in the series, the first 5 are pretty easy to find, the rest good luck.
You might want to skim through this as well.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barsoom

Not very. At all. The closest ones missed several points.

But that's a different animal.

For an adequate overview of the series and themes, and even if you want to read the first few books online, click here...

http://erblist.com/erbmania/barsoom.html

Thanks, guys, I'll check that out.

 

[rogue trooper]

This is definately an attire they could go for John Carter if they want to avoid the infamous "homo-erotic" look.

As for Taylor Kitsch as John Carter, well, I was expecting someone slightly more high-profile, but he might work, who knows? He certainly has the basic look.
Lynn Collins looks more than adequate for Deja Thoris, imo.


All I can say is that it's been very exciting so far!! First, Clash of The Titans is now rolling and Sam Worthington looks good as Perseus; next, a director for Conan has been finally announced; and now the main characters of John Carter of Mars have been cast!! So far, so good!! These are type of heroic fantasy stories I just love!!

 

[Ratcrawler]

^Armed to the Teeth LOL

This is definately an attire they could go for John Carter if they want to avoid the infamous "homo-erotic" look.

Hey! It worked for 300! Hmmm...

 

[rogue trooper]

Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but Burroughs' Mars stories were the first "space opera" adventures ever written. Correct?

I am certain, ofcourse, that it did heavily influence later stuff like Buck Rogers, Flash Gordon, Superman, Herbert's Dune, Star Trek, and Star Wars.

 

[Ratcrawler]

I dunno if they were the first anything, so much as an amazing amalgam of sci fi concepts that had been kicking around in that era. When he first wrote the story, it was under the pen name Norman Bean (as in "I'm normal in the ol' bean, meaning not crazy"...the joke didn't age well.) because it was just so out there.

 

[rogue trooper]

^Armed to the Teeth LOL



Hey! It worked for 300! Hmmm...

GOLD!!!t:

 

[Octoberist]

Design wise, I hope the creature effects along with the landcape/cities are creations that we have never seen before on film. Or at least original enough where you can place it along side Star Wars and Blade Runner, design wise..

 

[The Lizard]

Exactly, I don't. Do you? And if you do, Can you tell me more about it, please?

Granted, I've seen some of the Tarzan movies, but I don't know how close those are to the books.

The books are not long, and they are quite "pulpy" in format, in that they are straight-up adventure stories. They are fun to read, and the descriptions of bizarre Martian landscapes and animals are great.
Since the books were written in the early half of the 1900s, the science gets pretty wonky at points. For example, an earthman on Jupiter can jump even higher than an earthman on Mars because Jupiter spins so fast that the "centrifugal force" counteracts its increased gravity. t:

But all that aside, the books are enjoyable adventure tales. Also, be aware that John Carter is not always the main character in all the books. Some books focus on other protagonists like earthman Ulysses Paxton, John Carter's half-Martian son Carthoris, and a few Martian warriors as well.

 

[rogue trooper]

For example, an earthman on Jupiter can jump even higher than an earthman on Mars because Jupiter spins so fast that the "centrifugal force" counteracts its increased gravity. t:

...a concept that greatly influenced the logic of how Earth's sun gives Superman his powers.

 

[Ratcrawler]

And our lesser gravity as well.

You know what I never got about Superman? He was ridonkulously strong because a) he came from a planet with much higher gravity & b) our Yellow sun fuels him. Now, when he's exposed to red sunlight, the sunlight his people evolved to on Krypton, he loses his strength and powers. Now, the multiple visions and flight I understand, but shouldn't he at least retain the strength he would have needed to stand up on Krypton (i.e. a LOT more than he'd need on Earth)?

That always bugged me.

Anyhoo, any ideas on who Tom Church is playing?

 

[terry78]

I suspect he'll be Tars. But he'll be motion captured and voiced.

Here's that test reel Bob Clampett created back in like 1940 or '41.

[YT]bTAlgZlqwnQ[/YT]

 

[Sawyer]

I suspect he'll be Tars. But he'll be motion captured and voiced.

Here's that test reel Bob Clampett created back in like 1940 or '41.

[YT]bTAlgZlqwnQ[/YT]

Thats pretty ****in' AWESOME!

 

[stargazer]

The books are not long, and they are quite "pulpy" in format, in that they are straight-up adventure stories. They are fun to read, and the descriptions of bizarre Martian landscapes and animals are great.
Since the books were written in the early half of the 1900s, the science gets pretty wonky at points. For example, an earthman on Jupiter can jump even higher than an earthman on Mars because Jupiter spins so fast that the "centrifugal force" counteracts its increased gravity. t:

But all that aside, the books are enjoyable adventure tales. Also, be aware that John Carter is not always the main character in all the books. Some books focus on other protagonists like earthman Ulysses Paxton, John Carter's half-Martian son Carthoris, and a few Martian warriors as well.

thanks for the info, Lizard!

And our lesser gravity as well.

You know what I never got about Superman? He was ridonkulously strong because a) he came from a planet with much higher gravity & b) our Yellow sun fuels him. Now, when he's exposed to red sunlight, the sunlight his people evolved to on Krypton, he loses his strength and powers. Now, the multiple visions and flight I understand, but shouldn't he at least retain the strength he would have needed to stand up on Krypton (i.e. a LOT more than he'd need on Earth)?

That always bugged me.

Well, yeah, there is a lot of fantasy in the Superman tale. But I still can't figure out how he is able to fly, though.

 

[Ratcrawler]

^Look up "Science of Superman" on youtube. Thank me later.

Design wise, I hope the creature effects along with the landcape/cities are creations that we have never seen before on film.

What's really interesting about A Princess Of Mars is that the story begins in the west, Arizona I believe, and John Carter's friend Powell is killed by Apaches. It's one of Burroughs' famous little bits of ironic foreshadowing then that his hero is transPorted to something of a wide open wasteland populated by a dominant race of copper-skinned warriors. Burroughs rode in the 7th cavalry and saw active service in Apache country. He sometimes referred to them as the most perfect warriors ever to walk the Earth.

 

[batfan1028]

Wilem Dafoe joins the cast : http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118006026.html?categoryid=13&cs=1

 

[craigdbfan]

Awesome. Dafoe is great he'll make a great addition.

 

[Sawyer]

Awesome.

 

[Octoberist]

dafoe? awesome!

 

[louiebling$]

Man I love Dafoe