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I hate cgi blood. First thought that comes to mind after seeing this. However the movie is ok. It's funnier than the first, but it does get over the top. Some decent action. Ironically the scene I thought looked bad in the trailer was the high point for me, the van scene. The MF'er was the stand out character wise to me. He's both funny and gets dark too. I'll see it again to see how it holds up but at this point I found it just average, in other words it fits in well with this movie summer.

Really more over the top than the jetpack? While I know it will certainly not be as good as the first, that is kind of the bar for crazy in this franchise.
 
On a brighter note, about seven out of eight reviews so far have liked it. Though they all come with the caveat of..."It's not as good as the first, but...."

So that I am taking as a hopeful sign.
 
Hope so. I didn't like the KA2 comic much, so my expectations were already lowered. I did really enjoy the Hitgirl book, so was hoping more of that would be in the film. Doesn't sound like that's the case though.
 
The review/reaction embargo lifts on Wednesday night. Personally I don't pay attention to reviews that are allowed to be posted outside of embargo parameters.


Wait they toned down the violence? Is this still rated the same as the previous film?

Yeah it's still rated R. There's more vulgarity (cussing, sexual humor) than the first but a lot less violence.
 
Really more over the top than the jetpack? While I know it will certainly not be as good as the first, that is kind of the bar for crazy in this franchise.

I was referring to just the humor. The action is more grounded, but other than the van scene, kinda boring compared to the first.
 
Despite five of the first 6 reviews being positive the average score is pretty low. This could easily be very rotten when more start to come in.
 
It was funny hearing the reaction of the ladies at my screening when Kick Ass took his shirt off.
 
I wouldnt be surprised if the movie ended up rotten on RT, the 1st movie only got 78% I believe when it deserved a lot more, so i'm expecting around 50% for the sequel.
 
The review/reaction embargo lifts on Wednesday night. Personally I don't pay attention to reviews that are allowed to be posted outside of embargo parameters.




Yeah it's still rated R. There's more vulgarity (cussing, sexual humor) than the first but a lot less violence.

Those are all British sites whose embargo went up Monday as they get it two days early.
 
Hmm well I guess they were always going to tone it down from the comics, way too sensitive stuff in it, but it sounds like they couldnt replace it with something else more interesting. I didnt expect this to beat the original though, a sequel to a movie that was more a satire anyway was probably always going to struggle to know what it was meant to be and serious we were meant to take some stuff.
 
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Kick-Ass 2

Reviewed by Lewis Bazley

This comic book sequel doesn’t shock and knock you off your feet as much as the first installment but has enough fast-paced freakishness to merit your time.

Dave Lisewski’s (Aaron Taylor-Johnson) first foray into costumed crime-fighting in Kick-Ass wasn't a big hit in cinemas but a smash hit on DVD, with controversial hysteria about 11-year-old Chloë Grace Moretz fuelling the fire.

Fortunately, the Mark Millar adaptation’s success wasn’t just down to scaremongering offended parents and snob critics, but the rush of action sequences with showstopping turns by Nicolas Cage as the vigilante Big Daddy and Chloë Grace Moretz as Hit-Girl.

After his triumphant, Elvis-soundtracked takedown of mob boss Frank D’Amico (Mark Strong) at the climax of Kick-Ass, Dave had inspired a superhero movement, with Scrubs’ Donald Faison and fun, but underused, Jim Carrey among the troupe.

But with Hit-Girl/Mindy Macready (Chloë Grace Moretz) wrestling with her identity and the changes of teen life, and a vengeful Red Mist/Chris D'Amico (Christopher Mintz-Plasse) intent on becoming the world’s first real super-villain, Kick-Ass faces the biggest challenge of his fledgling career.

Vaughn, and original screenwriter Jane Goldman, are on board in production for this Universal sequel, but it’s Wadlow who’s carrying the can, both writing and directing. The absence of the element of surprise was an inevitability since the first film explored the notion of real people becoming superheroes, but treading the same water poses a problem here.

Wadlow’s screenplay is gag-laden and full of set-pieces, for the most part, Hit Girl confronting teen adolescence, Dave sparring with his concerned dad, Red Mist growing from side-kick into the Motherf****r, evil mastermind. Luckily, Wadlow seems to be well aware that, despite pretensions of realism, Kick-Ass 2 also beats with a cartoonish heart.

It’s a glossy, energetic film that has attention deficit disorder plaguing its script but manages to rattle along quickly and amusingly enough to maintain the audience’s gaze.

The director has fun with the classic comic book form, flashing "Earlier"… and "Meanwhile"… title cards on the screen as the action escalates in sun-drenched, vivid technicolour, while Chris D'Amico (Christopher Mintz-Plasse) has a ball as an orphan with an unusual, unexpectedly kinky coping mechanism.

Dave’s arc was largely fulfilled in the first film, so despite being the title character, Kick-Ass is merely a bit-part player here, and Hit Girl would have been a more apt title, with Chloë Grace Moretz taking over in dazzling form.

The pint-sized Hit-Girl hasn’t lost her fighting skills and is developing a burgeoning line in post-skirmish quips but it’s the character’s emotional journey where Chloë Grace Moretz really comes into her own. She might be a foul-mouthed superheroine with evident Stockholm Syndrome, but the 16-year-old keenly captures the alienation of being a teenager.

The simply bizarre, annoyingly cross-promotional appearance of X Factor rejects Union J aside, Kick-Ass 2 is a rapid-fire, enjoyably hyperactive comic book romp. While it lacks the impact of its predecessor, this is an energetic, often hilarious and undeniably entertaining ride.

http://skymovies.sky.com/kick-ass-2-2013/review

Kick-Ass 2: Earth’s sweariest heroes...

Reviewed by Matt Risley

Rating: 3

Aug 12th 2013

Back in 2010, Kick-Ass' potty-mouthed, kinetically violent and tabloid-baiting brand of super-heroism was a breath of irreverent fresh air. Adapting from Mark Millar’s have-a-go-heroes comic, Matthew Vaughn was able to carve out a new niche in an already over-crowded genre, delivering a capes-‘n’-tights romp that managed to screw with the superhero conventions as much as it celebrated them.

Yet while Kick-Ass 2 manages to tick all the boxes (naughty words, decapitations and gimp costumes), it also suffers from an undeniably super-powered sophomore slump, and a tone every bit as imbalanced and crazily questionable as its protagonists.

Relative newcomer Jeff Wadlow proves an adequate choice to take over the writer/director reins from Vaughn, bringing a similarly vibrant energy that sustains the pace despite three decidedly separate sub-plots.

While there's memorable spectacle and some fun set-pieces: a suburban attack led by Olga Kurkulina’s Brigitte-Nielsen-on-crack Mother Russia is a highlight, Wadlow's helped massively by a returning lead trio who can confidently juggle humor, drama and down-and-dirty ass-kicking.

Kick-Ass 2 has a wonky tone. For cleverly observed satirical barb or gritty, real-world dilemma, there's equivalent, jarring cliche. Case in point: Mindy Macready's fun mini-adventure lacks originality and intellectual depth.

The original explored the rib-cracking realities of street-level crime-fighting, its sequel drifts into some standard superhero staples with training montages and dead-parent-inspired character growth.

Still, if some of the shock value’s gone, this is witty, wild and wired enough to be far from a super-zero.

Verdict:

A fun if sporadically schizoid return to one of the brighter, brasher comic-bookers of recent years. Now, about that Hit Girl spin-off...

http://www.totalfilm.com/reviews/cinema/kick-ass-2-1

Kick-Ass 2: "Okay you c@&!s... let’s see what you can do now!"


Reviewed by Owen Williams

Rating: 3 out of 5

Three years on from the original Kick-Ass and the amount of time has also passed for the characters… which explains why they all look so much older, but not what has happened in the meantime. Kick-Ass 2 picks up with Mindy (Hit-Girl) Macready carrying on Big Daddy’s work, but it’s not long before she’s promising her adoptive father Marcus (Morris Chestnut) that she’ll put away the nunchucks and be a good girl, leaving Dave (Kick-Ass) Lizewski to hook up with a team of superhero vigilantes that he has inspired.

There are far more characters on both sides of the righteousness divide this time, leading to bigger battles with more costumed vigilantes. Yet this feels smaller in some ways than before, with Mindy Macready’s (amusing) high school dramas. Jim Carrey has distanced himself from the film for its level of violence, but it’s not any stronger than last time, and martial arts take much precedence over the gun-play. It’s far less brutal than the comics it’s adapted from. On at least two occasions it sidesteps Mark Millar’s more viciously bad-taste excesses.

Otherwise, Kick-Ass 2 is an extremely faithful adaptation of its namesake source comic, although it plays faster and looser with Hit-Girl. Its main deviation is Christopher Mintz-Plasse, whose goofy PVC-clad the Mother****er and now leader of evil gang, the Toxic Mega****s, is very much like McLovin from Super Bad. While it’s clear that Jim Carrey is intended as this film’s Nic Cage, it might have been a concern that Kick-Ass 2 was lacking a villain of Mark Strong’s sinister stature, but it’s a pleasant surprise that the Mother****er holds his own.

Verdict
A more modest success than the first Kick-Ass, but still of-a-piece with its scurrilous predecessor. Nobody flies a jet-pack up a skyscraper this time, but Kick-Ass 2 still has its share of over-the-top wild action, and the laughs are just about intact.

http://www.empireonline.com/reviews/reviewcomplete.asp?FID=138021

Kick-Ass 2

Reviewed by: Edward Douglas
Rating: 7 out of 10

Kick-Ass, directed by Matthew Vaughn, brought Mark Millar's superhero comics to the big screen. Although the movie was made for a fraction of the budget than the normal superhero movie, it struck a similar chord as the comics, with its humorous look at what vigilante superheroes might really be like if ordinary people put on costumes to try and fight crime. That idea might not seem nearly as novel in a world where there really are people dressing up in costumes roaming the streets trying to be superhero Samaritans.

A number of years after the first movie, Dave Lizewski's Kick-Ass is still not very skilled to fight crime, but he's also inspired a movement of other would-be heroes. Having lost the double-crossing Red Mist, Dave realizes he needs help, but while 15-year-old Hit-Girl is willing to train him, she doesn't necessarily want to team-up with him. Dave finds a more eager partner in Dr. Gravity (Donald Faison), soon discovers an entire team, Justice Forever, led by a former mobster Born Again Christian, Colonel Stars and Stripes (Jim Carrey). While that's going on, Mindy Macready has promised her guardian Marcus (Morris Chestnut) that she'll give up being Hit-Girl, as she tries to be a normal girl as a freshman in high school and struggles with resistant while coming into conflict with high school drama.

Jeff Wadlow does a fine job adapting the source material, essentially merging two separate graphic novels into one, cutting between Dave and Justice Forever, Mindy Macready and her high school restraint struggles, which ends in one of those moments you'll feel guilty at laughing about when she gets her inevitable revenge, while Red Mist (Christopher Mintz-Plasse) is trying to become a super-villain.

Aaron Taylor-Johnson still does perfectly fine playing down his natural confidence to portray Dave Lizewski as the somewhat dopey superhero, leaving an opening for Hit-Girl (Chloë Grace Moretz) to once again steal the movie, first as Hit Girl as we watch her violently taking out bad guys and then out of costume as Mindy, a teenage girl trying to fit in. Once again Chloë Grace Moretz is so compelling that the time the movie spends away from her, particularly in the second act, tends to drag because the other stories don't feel as interesting.

Chloë Grace Moretz has grown up since the last movie and it's somewhat odd that she seems considerably older, being 15 and in high school, while Dave and his friends don't seem to have changed in maturity at all since the previous movie. It's somewhat fun watching Jim Carrey show up briefly, but it's not nearly as fun as Nicolas Cage in the first movie. Christopher Mintz-Plasse still isn't a good enough actor to convince us he can be a truly ruthless super-villain but you have to give him some credit for at least trying.

For the most part, the movie remains fairly faithful to the source material in terms of story beats even if a lot of it is toned down for budget and to get an R-rating. It's hard to decide whether how they changed the gruesome rape scene from the comics is much better. It goes from being a moment that leaves you feeling unclean but also detesting the super-villain, to one played up for laughs instead--in other words, it tries to get off easy. There are other times when the violence is taken too far, most of them featuring Chris' toughest henchman Mother Russia, who in one scene takes out ten policemen by herself.

It's fairly obvious Wadlow isn't as strong a director as Vaughn, at least in terms of keeping a consistent tone. Wadlow generally excels at the choreographed action scenes including the final showdown between the supervillains and the group of misfits led by Kick-Ass. Part of why the violence can be tolerated is that it's so over the top it's clearly being played up for entertainment purposes much like how Tarantino used violence in Kill Bill. The problem is there are a number of deaths in the movie clearly meant to be taken more seriously and it's hard to have it both ways, which is what this sequel often tries to do. For a movie that's all about being edgy and in your face, there are a surprising number of dramatic character moments, particularly between Hit Girl, Marcus, Kick-Ass and his father, although they do feel somewhat out of place in a movie that rarely takes anything too seriously.

The Bottom Line:

Fans of Kick-Ass will probably enjoy the similar levels of violence and foul-mouthed humor of the sequel, which is so faithful to the comics whether you like the movie or not may already be determined by whether or not they're to your taste.

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/reviewsnews.php?id=107698

Kick-Ass 2: Superheroes vs. Meaning

By Alan Scherstuhl

Wednesday, Aug 14 2013

Despite the giddy, gory ridiculousness of Kick-Ass 2, this summer's most violent yet least punishing comic-book movie, there's a kernel of ugly human truth at the core of the Kick-Ass fantasy. In the first issue of Mark Millar's Kick-Ass comic, a lonely high school twerp dons a wetsuit and sets out to clean up the streets of New York. This white boy's first adventure: calling a trio of black graffiti taggers "homos," threatening them with his fighting sticks, and then getting his ass stomped in brutal detail the movies just can't match.

It's a fight he picks, a reminder that the impulse toward costumed do-goodery isn't far removed from the impulses of those sons of *****es who post in Internet comment threads that Trayvon Martin had it coming. In 2011, real-life superhero-wannabe The Ray, who patrols the suburbs of San Francisco, complained about black "thugs" to SF Weekly's Lauren Smiley: "I'm not racist," he insisted, but "stereotypes are stereotypes for a reason." Recounting a fight in a skate park, he said, "There were so many black people there they turned day into night.

The first Kick-Ass flick tidied all that up. The taggers become carjackers, one white and one black. They've previously mugged the costumed aggressor, and they work for the mob boss who will be the film's principal villain. In short, these guys, according to story logic, truly do have it coming--which means there's nothing complex or upsetting about Kick-Ass confronting them other than the violence itself, which wasn't all that shocking, as the movie was to the comic books what Coors Light is to an oatmeal stout. The comics, soaked through as they are with arterial spray, at least on occasion suggest that it's destructive and stupid to go out looking for asses to kick. The movies, not so much, especially the shoddy original, which aspired to be a grim sugar-rush yet posited that teens with self-esteem problems need only survive torture and a couple bloodbaths to land their out-of-their-league high-school crushes. (In the harder-edged comic, that crush tells Kick-Ass to **** off.)

The sequel is better in every way except one: surprise. The original film (directed by Matthew Vaughn) peaked with the arrival of Hit-Girl (Chloë Grace Moretz), a nine-year-old demon moppet whose whirligig slaughter of a roomful of thugs was a high. This was a hilarious, can't-believe-they-filmed-it perversity, the only time Vaughan improved upon Millar's gorgeous, sometimes inexcusable work. But great as it was, that scene made it absolutely clear that the filmmakers had no interest in the source material's interrogation of entertainment violence--instead of any horror at the sight of a pre-tween murdering bad guys who we haven't seen do anything all that bad, Kick-Ass the movie just asked us to get juiced on it.

Kick-Ass 2 doesn't ask for much more, but this time the juice gushes with impressive consistency, usually with such power that you might not mind that director Jeff Wadlow, even more than Vaughn, has made sure that it's only the images that are provocative--never the ideas.

This time, Kick-Ass (Aaron Taylor-Johnson) throws in with a league of misfit crimefighters organized by Jim Carrey's born-again Colonel Stars and Stripes. Carrey is a stolid marvel straight out of a World War II-era comic cover, a gray-stubbled G.I. with a Jack Kirby jaw. With this crew, Kick-Ass takes the time to do the one thing all the other movie superheroes forgot to this year: save some people from problems that weren't a direct consequence of the existence of those superheroes.

Hit-Girl, meanwhile, deepens into a full character as she takes on teen life and high school, facing mean girls, drill-team tryouts, a first date, and her promise to her adoptive father that she'll try to live a normal life. Her scenes are surprisingly tender. Snuffling about with her peer group, plucking up the courage to hang with them even as she tries to hide the steel inside her, she's even more compelling than when she's playing the pixie avenger.

Hit Girl and Kick-Ass, of course, get pulled back into senseless, satisfying battle, this time by new villain the Mother ****er, who is actually just the same rich yutz Christopher Mintz-Plasse played in Kick-Ass. (Thankfully, the original's many joyless scenes of conniving gangsters, all showstoppers in the bad way, are gone.) The Mother ****er hires assassins and MMA types to serve as his own supervillain crew, the Toxic Mega ****s, including former KGB killer Mother Russia, a giantess whose one-on-one with Hit-Girl does not disappoint. In the name of revenge, the Mega ****s do some cop killing and attempt to destroy Kick-Ass's life, one noxious scene from the comic series, a sexual assault, is rewritten into a crowd-pleasing dick joke, almost as if Wadlow (also the screenwriter) were weighing in on that argument Lindy West started at Jezebel: Can rape ever be funny?

The most welcome change is the tone. Wadlow has decided he's making straight-up humor, and he demonstrates a knack for it. There's a lightness even to the beatdowns and head-shots, a punchline timing on the stabbings and severed limbs, and the good sense to hustle through the dark material setting up the climax--a rumble, West Side Story-style, except with a shark tank and a heroine named Night *****. At its dark heart, Kick-Ass 2, like its predecessor, celebrates a worldview awfully close to Ted Nugent's: Wouldn't it be fun to bust the heads of some thugs? That's not great, but it beats ponderous follies like The Wolverine or The Dark Knight Rises, which asked an even less fruitful question: "Wouldn't it be awesomely miserable?"

http://www.villagevoice.com/2013-08-14/film/kick-ass-2-movie-review/
 
Well, Drew at Hitfix liked it, and he and I have been on almost the exact same page for pretty much all of the blockbusters this summer, so that's encouraging for me.
 
It is clearly inferior to the first one. I know that going in. So, here is to hoping that I will at least be entertained by it and not feel like it ruined the characters or my enjoyment of this world.
 
It is clearly inferior to the first one. I know that going in. So, here is to hoping that I will at least be entertained by it and not feel like it ruined the characters or my enjoyment of this world.
My hopes and expectations in a nutshell basically, lol.
 
Well I've enjoyed a lot of films the critics bashed this year ( Man of Steel , Elysium , The Lone Ranger , and Pacific Rim ) so I'm not too worried. I just want to see them wrap up the story between Red Mist and Kick Ass.
 
My embargo has been lifted. Really disappointed. Seems to be unaware of what kind of movie it wants to be or what kind of story it wants to tell.

Most of the characters are pretty much unlikable jerks or *******s.

The direction certain characters have taken were poorly written.

The story isn't really wrapped up either.

What's funny is that Katie becomes the jerk she was in the first comic. And in the sequel comic, Millar altered her to make her more like her first movie character. It's actually kind of lame because Katie is basically written out of the movie and frankly didn't need to be in it at all.

I think the problem is, I don't really like Dave/Kick-Ass. He's kind of a boneheaded idiot in this movie. Peter Parker he is not.
 
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I forgot Katie is even in this movie, do her and Dave break up or something?

If you really want to know:

Katie dumps him in about the first 10 minutes because she thinks he's sleeping with Mindy. Katie then reveals she's been cheating on him with another guy for months and walks out of the movie. Dave isn't too upset about it and starts boffing a 35 year old chick about 2 scenes later.
 
If you really want to know:

Katie dumps him in about the first 10 minutes because she thinks he's sleeping with Mindy. Katie then reveals she's been cheating on him with another guy for months and walks out of the movie. Dave isn't too upset about it and starts boffing a 35 year old chick about 2 scenes later.
Ah, young love.
 
Frankly I think they should've just written Katie out completely.

I think the strongest performance here was McLovin as D'Amico/Mother ****er. Carrey was good for the short amount of screentime he really has.

I'm just not really sure what the movie was trying to say or what it wanted to be. I think if there was some way of showing Dave actually improving as a costumed vigilante but finding conflict through the corrupt police force and trying to overcome the true evils of the world it could've been a better story. Like if the message was, "yes you can be a superhero despite living in the real world with real consequences." It's a message that gets lost throughout the film.

Throughout the film Dave acts like an immature little kid who gets his toys taken away when he can't be Kick-Ass. It's hard for me to really believe he actually wants to be a hero and help people.

I dunno, another comic/manga that tells the same basic story but does it 1,000 times better is History's Strongest Disciple Kenichi.
 
Frankly I think they should've just written Katie out completely.

I think the strongest performance here was McLovin as D'Amico/Mother ****er. Carrey was good for the short amount of screentime he really has.

I'm just not really sure what the movie was trying to say or what it wanted to be. I think if there was some way of showing Dave actually improving as a costumed vigilante but finding conflict through the corrupt police force and trying to overcome the true evils of the world it could've been a better story. Like if the message was, "yes you can be a superhero despite living in the real world with real consequences." It's a message that gets lost throughout the film.

Throughout the film Dave acts like an immature little kid who gets his toys taken away when he can't be Kick-Ass. It's hard for me to really believe he actually wants to be a hero and help people.

I dunno, another comic/manga that tells the same basic story but does it 1,000 times better is History's Strongest Disciple
Kenichi.


That's because the Japanese do everything better :cwink:
 
Frankly I think they should've just written Katie out completely.

I think the strongest performance here was McLovin as D'Amico/Mother ****er. Carrey was good for the short amount of screentime he really has.

I'm just not really sure what the movie was trying to say or what it wanted to be. I think if there was some way of showing Dave actually improving as a costumed vigilante but finding conflict through the corrupt police force and trying to overcome the true evils of the world it could've been a better story. Like if the message was, "yes you can be a superhero despite living in the real world with real consequences." It's a message that gets lost throughout the film.

Throughout the film Dave acts like an immature little kid who gets his toys taken away when he can't be Kick-Ass. It's hard for me to really believe he actually wants to be a hero and help people.

I dunno, another comic/manga that tells the same basic story but does it 1,000 times better is History's Strongest Disciple Kenichi.


I thought these films were supposed to be a parody of people who wish they were superheroes. I thought Hit Girl being a badass was the funniest joke they had going in the first film. The message should be that these heroes can't exist because they would immediately be hurt , killed , or do more harm than good.
 
Saw this last night. I would suggest that anyone who goes in with 'probably not gonna live up to the first one' type expectations will likely be pleasantly surprised. I can only speak for myself and 7 friends that I saw it with but we all went in expecting it to be a let down and every one of us came out laughing and saying how awesome it was.

I think the mistake the critics are making here is that they found the film's characters to be either unlikeable, schizoid or just uninteresting but to me that's kind of the point. This is a film about 'real' people who want to be superheroes; the film is realistic in that there are some reasonably well adjusted people, average Joes acting out a fantasy, and borderline nutjobs who genuinely want to bust some heads. I found Kick Ass and especially Hit Girl to be very sympathetic characters at different stages and was surprised by the character development Mindy goes through.

I feel like the critics, and many fans alike are looking at this movie through a reviewers lens too much instead of just kicking back and enjoying what is a funny and genuinely entertaining movie. Sure there's some questionable green screen, CGI blood (that isn't nearly as blatant as people on here would have you believe) and a kind of uneven tone but it's not soooo in your face that it ruins the film in my opinion. Just relax people and HAVE FUN. It seems like a lot of people have forgotten to allow themselves to enjoy a night at the movies this year.

All in all, this movie is anything but joyless. Myself and my friends left the cinema feeling good and having seen a really fun movie so, if you liked Kick Ass, and you aren't entirely worried about a movie displaying technical perfection on all levels then you'll probably have a great time, as I did.
 
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