Liam Neeson sparks outrage over remarks regarding revenge against blacks for rape victim

[terry78]

Opinion: What does Liam Neeson’s desire to avenge a woman raped by a black man tell us about society and race?


Wow. Honesty, but wow. It's apparently all over social media.

 

[Teelie]

If you read the story, see the context and stop looking for a fight, you will see Neeson did not act on it and was ashamed, realizing how wrong he was. Also that this was not a recent thing.

But then this is social media we are talking about. Looking past the initial outrage to find revenge on someone is ironically exactly the same thing they are doing to Neeson, who at least held back and examined himself before going off on someone who did not deserve it.

From another report on his interview.

Neeson said it took him about a week or a week and a half to process what had happened.

“It was horrible, horrible, when I think back, that I did that,” he said. “And I’ve never admitted that, and I’m saying it to a journalist. God forbid.”

He added: “It’s awful. But I did learn a lesson from it, when I eventually thought, ‘What the **** are you doing’, you know?

 

[Pink Ranger]

Liam is telling us how enraged he was, and how ashamed he was of the thoughts he had back then (which, presumably, never actually manifested themselves into direct and concrete action with actual consequences). Anybody who would label him as a racist because of this needs to take a long hard look in the mirror at themselves.

 

[terry78]

It's a social media thing, somebody obviously dug it up for some reason.

 

[Lily Adler]

It's a social media thing, somebody obviously dug it up for some reason.

They wanted to be the one who took a celebrity down thus becoming a celebrity themselves?

 

[Boom]

I'm sure woke Twitter is working furiously to destroy his career.

 

[MadVillainy]

Anti PC culture and *****ing is becoming just as annoying as PC culture

Anywho, Neeson is wildin out. Not sure why he would reveal this. Or the racial aspect of it all

I read the context and it still makes him look like a creep. I mean it's not recent, but people really don't seem to grasp the idea of the past can affect your present

He knows it was wrong and it was in his past, but that doesn't mean cant side eye him

I'm gonna like his movies the same

 

[Pink Ranger]

Woke Twitter may try, but Woke Twitter will fail.

 

[Sithborg]

Yeah, it really puts a different shade on his Taken and other similar movies.

It is extremely disturbing.

 

[Teelie]

This is a good place to question if someone has something like this in their past, something they clearly regret, is it never enough to accept they made a mistake? Or must they be forever branded as being racist (or homophobic or mysognistic, etc)? Because no matter how long ago or how much different they are now some people are just never going to forgive them.

It makes it seem pointless to try and reason or convert people from a hateful belief system if all that society will do is give them hell for it even after renouncing it. Perhaps if we want people to not be something, don't hold what they used to be over their heads like this for the rest of their lives.

To me that isn't productive.

 

[MadVillainy]

This is a good place to question if someone has something like this in their past, something they clearly regret, is it never enough to accept they made a mistake? Or must they be forever branded as being racist (or homophobic or mysognistic, etc)? Because no matter how long ago or how much different they are now some people are just never going to forgive them.

It makes it seem pointless to try and reason or convert people from a hateful belief system if all that society will do is give them hell for it even after renouncing it. Perhaps if we want people to not be something, don't hold what they used to be over their heads like this for the rest of their lives.

To me that isn't productive.

Again your past can haunt you. No one is obligated to accept your apologies. If you do something or say something weird and someone still doesn't want to accept your apology that's their prerogative. We all make mistakes and we all have to figure out how to deal with the fall out from them

People put way to much stock in apologies anyway. Both sides.
People who are mad and demand an apology and people who think "Well I apologized so everything is OK"

 

[MadVillainy]

Yeah, it really puts a different shade on his Taken and other similar movies.

I wouldn't say all that personally. It's not like for example it comes out that Gerard Butler doesn't like Far East Asians and then made Olympus Has Fallen where he tears through them

 

[Donner]

To be honest, I think this is something that happens to a lot of people. Not necessarily wanting to kill, but having a bad experience with someone of a different race and then experiencing a physiological reaction whenever you would see someone of that race. I think those feelings do eventually subside when logic and reason take over, but for some it may take longer (or never go away depending on how deep their prejudices are).

I know I've muttered things under my breath when I see a stereotypical action from someone. It's not right, it just happens.

 

[Pink Ranger]

Harbouring hateful thoughts alone is not racism. If you've never had a visceral and negative thought about someone because of their race, gender or sexual orientation, you're lying. It becomes racism when you put your thoughts into action (including words), particularly in the exercise of unequal power. Granted, Liam came close to doing that, walking around randomly in the streets hoping someone would start a fight with him. Presumably he never used that cosh on anybody. His words, though perhaps inelegant, represent a teachable moment for all of us about the nature of violence and prejudice, I feel.

 

[AResistor]

Woke Twitter may try, but Woke Twitter will fail.

Twitter is more making fun of him.

"The same week people unite against Northam, I'll come out saying I once tried to randomly kill black people - that'll put butts in the seats for my film!"

His publicist AND the studio/company behind 'Cold Pursuit' are going crazy right now.

Not to mention, Liam was really dumb on the uptake to not clarify what he's regretting - going out searching for random people to pick fights with and kill OR looking for black people in particular. Not specifying lets people spin it any way they want to.

This had to be spur of the moment - why would somebody shoot themselves in the foot? Also, does this mean he's psychologically self-destructing?

 

[Pink Ranger]

The SJWs are just going to give themselves an even worse reputation if THIS is the hill they choose to fight on. People seem to have forgiven Mark Wahlberg for committing ACTUAL hate crimes against Asians when he was young and stupid. Or is it that hate crimes against Asian men are more forgiveable according to liberal progressives? Which is 100% true, by the way, but that's a topic for another day.

 

[samsnee]

I missed the part where he said he actually killed someone or beat someone up.

 

[Pink Ranger]

I missed the part where he said he actually killed someone or beat someone up.

He thought about it, and tried to become a better man since then. Apparently that's enough to put him on the same spectrum as the KKK.

 

[Pink Ranger]

I know I've muttered things under my breath when I see a stereotypical action from someone. It's not right, it just happens.

Your prejudice against British Columbians is well known, don't deny it.

 

[AResistor]

The SJWs are just going to give themselves an even worse reputation if THIS is the hill they choose to fight on. People seem to have forgiven Mark Wahlberg for committing ACTUAL hate crimes against Asians when he was young and stupid. Or is it that hate crimes against Asian men are more forgiveable according to liberal progressives? Which is 100% true, by the way, but that's a topic for another day.

Comically the only people who seem to be taking "offense" are the people who whine about "offense" culture.

Most on twitter are laughing about it - even black people are more "wtf" than angry. It could be my aspergers - but everyone is being really too sarcastic to perceive them as taking it seriously.



Etc. As said, it might be aspergers but most tweets are sarcastic as heck - especially when compared to Northam.

 

[Sithborg]

Honestly, the race part is the least worrisome bit of this. He was trolling to murder someone. And this isn't a situation where he he would get caught up in mob mentality. Did he hurt anyone, apparently not. And he says he learned from it and is ashamed. That is important. Very important.

But you can't expect people to look at him the same way again.

 

[chamber-music]

I mean being angry that someone you know was raped is fair enough. Going around looking to get into a confrontation with any black dude so that you have an excuse to take out your anger on them is despicable but at least he admitted to himself that he was wrong and learned from that negative prejudice mind set which is more than can be said for a lot of people.

 

[AResistor]

I mean being angry that someone you know was raped is fair enough. Going around looking to get into a confrontation with any black dude so that you have an excuse to take out your anger on them is despicable but at least he admitted to himself that he was wrong and learned from that negative prejudice mind set which is more than can be said for a lot of people.

*Cough* Northam, I love Michael Jackson so I'll do black face *Cough*

 

[MadVillainy]

Harbouring hateful thoughts alone is not racism. If you've never had a visceral and negative thought about someone because of their race, gender or sexual orientation, you're lying. It becomes racism when you put your thoughts into action (including words), particularly in the exercise of unequal power. Granted, Liam came close to doing that, walking around randomly in the streets hoping someone would start a fight with him. Presumably he never used that cosh on anybody. His words, though perhaps inelegant, represent a teachable moment for all of us about the nature of violence and prejudice, I feel.

This is really silly. Like really really silly.
Thinking or saying I hate Mexicans isn't racism? It's only racist if I do something about it?
Or saying I don't feel bad when women get raped isn't sexist?
Or thinking "a black person hurt my friend so now let me walk around hoping one of them tries me so I can hurt them"
It's only prejudice if you act on it? That's just wrong

Everyone has opinions but that's just false.

 

[MadVillainy]

Comically the only people who seem to be taking "offense" are the people who whine about "offense" culture.

Most on twitter are laughing about it - even black people are more "wtf" than angry. It could be my aspergers - but everyone is being really too sarcastic to perceive them as taking it seriously.

Of course that's how it is. As I said, the anti PC people have become just as bad as the PC people.