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Marvel Television Marvel Studios' Wonder Man

Sigh. So whatever happened to just now releasing 2 live action mcu shows per year? Yet they managed to squeeze this one more for the end of 2025... so we are looking at 6 mcu projects for next year (w/o counting the animated shows).
 
Sigh. So whatever happened to just now releasing 2 live action mcu shows per year? Yet they managed to squeeze this one more for the end of 2025... so we are looking at 6 mcu projects for next year (w/o counting the animated shows).

I am assuming they had made all these things during the Bob Chapek era and now they want to get them out and done with.
 
I am assuming they had made all these things during the Bob Chapek era and now they want to get them out and done with.
Maybe, but it looks like they are being released in a rapid pace which is the opposite of what they've said about "slowing down". If the X-Men 97 debacle with the fired writer didn't happen, it could have been included in the line up.

I can't see them limiting their releases in 2026 with only X-Men 97 season 2 and Vision Quest. There must be other projects ready to start production next year for 2026/2027.
 
Daredevil, Iron Heart, Wonder Man. What else?
Fantastic 4
Thunderbolts
Captain America

9, if we include the cartoons. The three movies would be out in Disney+ in two to three months after their theaterical release.
 
Maybe, but it looks like they are being released in a rapid pace which is the opposite of what they've said about "slowing down". If the X-Men 97 debacle with the fired writer didn't happen, it could have been included in the line up.

I can't see them limiting their releases in 2026 with only X-Men 97 season 2 and Vision Quest. There must be other projects ready to start production next year for 2026/2027.

I think they want to slow down, but they have this backlog of **** they've already filmed. Ironheart was already completed filming wise awhile back, and has been sitting on the shelf ever since.
 
I think they also view the animated content differently. Would it really make a difference of Wonder Man came out in January or February instead of December? Any meaningful difference? I don't think so
 
Sigh. So whatever happened to just now releasing 2 live action mcu shows per year? Yet they managed to squeeze this one more for the end of 2025... so we are looking at 6 mcu projects for next year (w/o counting the animated shows).

There was no way they could maintain that schedule with all the projects they had in the pipeline.
 
I think they want to slow down, but they have this backlog of **** they've already filmed. Ironheart was already completed filming wise awhile back, and has been sitting on the shelf ever since.
I was actually surprised its out in June.

I thought it would have been closer to this -
March - Daredevil
Fall 2025 - Ironheart (post 2025 MCU movies)
Early 2026 - Wonder Man
Fall 2025 - Vision

Airing them sooner, because they want to get rid of their backlog isn't really smart. That sounds they are just tossing them as soon as they can, without putting much thought about the short gap between releases.

Dec - What If?
Jan - Spider-Man cartoon
Feb - Captain America
Mar - Daredevil
May - Thunderbolts
Jun - Ironheart
Jul - Fantastic 4
? - Eyes
? - Zombies
Dec - Wonder Man

There's no downtime.
 
There's nothing intrinsically worse about having a short gap. It's only worse if pushing out too much content too fast causes an overall drop in quality.

If Wonder Man is already filmed then its quality is what it is. Hopefully it's good. But sitting on it for a couple extra months won't change how good it is.
 
Its all part of the Marvel brand. They would cannibalize each other's hype and only the most appealing project is going to breakout.

And Disney should be concerned by next year's box office. I don't think any of those 3 films are safe yet from flopping and if there's another mcu flop, that won't encourage more people to check out these six new shows.
 
Its all part of the Marvel brand. They would cannibalize each other's hype and only the most appealing project is going to breakout.

And Disney should be concerned by next year's box office. I don't think any of those 3 films are safe yet from flopping and if there's another mcu flop, that won't encourage more people to check out these six new shows.
How is this any different than how Marvel Television and Animation acted pre-Disney Plus? You're biggest issues that you keep bringing up is that there's too many projects coming out. Let's look at 2018, we had

Agents of SHIELD
Luke Cage
Iron Fist
Daredevil
Runaways
Cloak & Dagger
Avengers Assemble (cartoon)
Guardians of the Galaxy (cartoon)

That's 8 shows right there, not even including Legion or The Gifted since that was Fox. Not to mention the episode count for these shows are much bigger than we current get. Yet, without looking, I have a feeling you and many other people weren't complaining about the amount of Marvel content that was out there at the time. Feige oversees TV now yes but since there intial TV fumble the majority of people working on these shows now are not the same people working on the movies. And as mentioned sitting on these shows for years when they are complete/near complete isn't anyone favors.

We're at a transition point with Marvel Television trying to actually do what it should have done from the begining. So only releasing 2 shows just prolongs that transition.
 
Yeah back then we had a ton of TV content. The biggest differences is that back then it was much more disconnected from the movies, the movies never had any blatant gaps in the meta narrative where a TV show clearly took place.

I don't think Wonder Man or DD Born Again will have a significant narrative connection to the films, so for all intents and purposes the may as well not be MCU as far as non-nerds are concerned. Ironheart and VisionQuest are the only upcoming shows that strongly connect to the narrative of the films. Marvel needs to keep shows like that to a minimum and focus more on making shows that are like the Netflix MCU shows (which I assume they are probably doing).
 
Part of me thinks what if these tv shows were just straight to streaming movies for Disney+, instead of a 6 to 9 episode commitment.

I know they wanna keep their subscribers by having a new episode weekly. I still don't think Marvel Studios have the right formula for their live action tv shows. A straight to streaming movie could be quickly forgotten as these shows, but having to watch in 1 sitting rather than splicing the story to 6 to 9 episodes might have led to a better experience when it comes to these MCU Disney+ originals. Werewolf the Night and GOTG X-Mas left me wanting for more because it was over in less than 90 minutes. These shows gave me the opposite feeling.
 
Part of me thinks what if these tv shows were just straight to streaming movies for Disney+, instead of a 6 to 9 episode commitment.

I know they wanna keep their subscribers by having a new episode weekly. I still don't think Marvel Studios have the right formula for their live action tv shows. A straight to streaming movie could be quickly forgotten as these shows, but having to watch in 1 sitting rather than splicing the story to 6 to 9 episodes might have led to a better experience when it comes to these MCU Disney+ originals. Werewolf the Night and GOTG X-Mas left me wanting for more because it was over in less than 90 minutes. These shows gave me the opposite feeling.
You'd have more of a point if this we we're back in 2022. Both She-Hulk and Agatha worked well in tv format. Each episode was episodic and neither felt like a movie cut in pieces. And every indication so far is they are doing the same with Daredevil and Wonder Man. So regardless of quality, Marvel has pivoted to actually making shows this time around.
 
She Hulk was very much a TV show. Unlike everything else Marvel released on the service.

I question how episodic Daredevil will be with the loss of episodes.
 

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