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Movie Trailers: Are They Spoiling the Surprise?

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I feel as if this has become somewhat of a hot topic lately, not just with comic book films but films in general. Are trailers showing too much nowadays? Are they spoiling the movies' best surprises? I guess its kind of complicated. On the one hand, its the marketing team's job of selling the movie to the audience and that of course entails showing some of the movie's best and most appealing aspects. For example, the buzz for Civil War went through the roof when we got the peek at Spider-man. But what if...what if Marvel had shown restraint and kept him a secret until the movie's premiere? Or Doomsday in BvS? Or Wolverine in Xmen Apocalypse, or a certain character's demise in Jason Bourne? I'm sure you all could think of tons of other examples.

Are trailers showing too much or are they just doing their job? in this day or and age of social media, maybe its inevitable and unavoidable to hide surprises anymore? What are your thoughts?
 
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Doomsday was spoiled because of the studio not having enough confidence and jumping the gun due to anxiety. Spider-Man was shamelessly spoiled purely for that $$$ and it was a big reason why a billion dollars was made. I don't know why the f*** they spoiled the death in the Jason Bourne trailers and spots.

This is why I love it when directors are overly secretive to the point of paranoia or when studios actually have faith in their product. In the age where we can watch a trailer whenever we please and analyze every frame, it's disrespectful to the art of film to spoil it in the trailers to lure people in. Unless it's a case like Spider-Man in the Civil War trailer, it just seems so counterproductive.
 
Are that really that many surprises left in movies today?
 
For me personally, I love being surprised. But there are many (on the internet and on these very forums) that enjoy being spoiled. Just sitting there having discussions about spoilers months before the movie comes out. I don't understand that whatsoever, but whatever floats their boats I guess.
 
Even though it was impossible to hide Spider-Man from Civil War, Ant-Man's moment sure came as a surprise.
 
Spider-man was there to make money, there was no way he wasn't going to show up in a trailer

My bigger spoiler issue, in terms of Civil War, was them showing the final 3 way battle between IM, Cap, and Bucky.

While rewatching the film, it was really clear that the Russos and M&M intended on creating a serious red herring out of the other Winter Soldiers, and were teasing that the heroes were going to get back together and fight the bad guys and yayy happy ending time.

But because we all saw the awesome shot of the threeway fight in the trailer, the audience was waiting for the big fight instead of expecting a more standard ending. It almost made the 'other winter soldiers' plot feel out-of-place and jarring, rather than being the misdirect it was intended as.
 
I can say from a writing perspective it's very frustratingly difficult because it cuts short so many twists and turns that were once possible. For example, the beginning of 'Psycho' it would be impossible to keep secret with the way trailers are cut today.

I can say the BEST viewing experiences I've had were at screenings where I saw none of the trailers at all beforehand because it was too early for trailers to even be out. Those were the best experiences.
 
old trailers from the 90's and 80's spoiled a lot. but since i didnt have internet i didnt rewatch trailers and i couldnt visit forums to read about movies. i maybe saw the trailer in theater or ....maybe maybe on TV.

think about it. trailers show a lot clips very fast. if you watch a tv show and then out of nowhere you see a trailer to a movie. would you noticed that they spoiled the ending in 5 seconds?
 
This goes into the pile of standard fanboy/girl complaints that I am 100% in agreement with. Far too many films give us almost the entirety of the story in less than three minutes. Surprises, money shots, plot twists, everything. Now, for some films it's just impossible to do that by their nature. Say a Christopher Nolan film like INCEPTION or THE PRESTIGE. The trailers for those films did what good trailers are supposed to do: Give a primer on the the plot and characters, a taste of the tone and a look at the one or two visual flourishes that may occur.

But these days, even for dramas, they give away everything. In fact... Let's look at some examples right now. The aforementioned trailers for INCEPTION and THE PRESTIGE.

THE PRESTIGE:
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INCEPTION:
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What did we learn in terms of plot in those two trailers? The basics of what to expect. The consumer sees just enough to decide if this film is something he or she wants to see. It's not a beat for beat replaying of those films as anyone who has seen them can attest.

Now... Here are the trailers to films where it was given all away in three minutes.

SOUTHPAW:
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CASTAWAY:
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We find out WAY too much of these film's plots and character arcs. Hell, Castaway has one lone character and guess what... We learn he gets back home before seeing the film.


The worst part is... I don't know what sort of focus group testing tells them these sort of things work but... For myself they really don't. I don't want to know everything about a film beforehand. Granted, especially for genre works, it doesn't always matter. Spie films, super heroes, action films... we know what we are getting into mostly. But must they show us every money shot? Every moment that is supposed to be fist pumping? These don't ruin the film in it's entirety always but c'mon Hollywood... Don't any of you remember when Mr. Orange shot Mr. Blond in RESERVOIR DOGS? When Bishop showed up to rescue Ripley but then the Alien queen shows up out of nowhere in ALIENS? These were important surprises that imprint themselves on the audience and make for memorable and therefor PROFITABLE films, in both the long and short term. Today I understand there are outfits out there that do nothing but cut trailers. Often the directors and producers are not involved in the process... they really ought to be though. The trailer is the first contact people have with a particular film. You would think that the directors would understand that and want something that intrigues but doesn't give away the essence and experience of the film for free.
 
This goes into the pile of standard fanboy/girl complaints that I am 100% in agreement with. Far too many films give us almost the entirety of the story in less than three minutes. Surprises, money shots, plot twists, everything. Now, for some films it's just impossible to do that by their nature. Say a Christopher Nolan film like INCEPTION or THE PRESTIGE. The trailers for those films did what good trailers are supposed to do: Give a primer on the the plot and characters, a taste of the tone and a look at the one or two visual flourishes that may occur.

But these days, even for dramas, they give away everything. In fact... Let's look at some examples right now. The aforementioned trailers for INCEPTION and THE PRESTIGE.

THE PRESTIGE:
[YT]ijXruSzfGEc[/YT]

INCEPTION:
[YT]YoHD9XEInc0[/YT]

What did we learn in terms of plot in those two trailers? The basics of what to expect. The consumer sees just enough to decide if this film is something he or she wants to see. It's not a beat for beat replaying of those films as anyone who has seen them can attest.

Now... Here are the trailers to films where it was given all away in three minutes.

SOUTHPAW:
[YT]Mh2ebPxhoLs[/YT]

CASTAWAY:
[YT]4tVklCz2jcI[/YT]

We find out WAY too much of these film's plots and character arcs. Hell, Castaway has one lone character and guess what... We learn he gets back home before seeing the film.


The worst part is... I don't know what sort of focus group testing tells them these sort of things work but... For myself they really don't. I don't want to know everything about a film beforehand. Granted, especially for genre works, it doesn't always matter. Spie films, super heroes, action films... we know what we are getting into mostly. But must they show us every money shot? Every moment that is supposed to be fist pumping? These don't ruin the film in it's entirety always but c'mon Hollywood... Don't any of you remember when Mr. Orange shot Mr. Blond in RESERVOIR DOGS? When Bishop showed up to rescue Ripley but then the Alien queen shows up out of nowhere in ALIENS? These were important surprises that imprint themselves on the audience and make for memorable and therefor PROFITABLE films, in both the long and short term. Today I understand there are outfits out there that do nothing but cut trailers. Often the directors and producers are not involved in the process... they really ought to be though. The trailer is the first contact people have with a particular film. You would think that the directors would understand that and want something that intrigues but doesn't give away the essence and experience of the film for free.
All good points, but it makes me wonder when did this current trend with trailers start?
What were the first trailers that started giving away more?
 
I personally avoid many 2nd trailers and promos for the movies I am going to watch in cinema. Specially if 1st trailer is good enough to hype me. I found myself enjoying movies and footage alot more in those cases.


Hollywood is trying recent years showcase a lot and lot more footage they can. So they can bring audience into cinema. They act like cheap ***ore who will sell anything they can to get your money.

And you know I am kind of guy who wants wife material.
 
All good points, but it makes me wonder when did this current trend with trailers start?

The dawn of cinema, most likely. Tons of older movies have trailers that are literally just rundowns of the entire plot. This is not a new problem.

Fact of the matter is, the general audience doesn't care and they're the biggest demographic.
 
The dawn of cinema, most likely. Tons of older movies have trailers that are literally just rundowns of the entire plot. This is not a new problem.

Fact of the matter is, the general audience doesn't care and they're the biggest demographic.

Yep. Watch old trailers from the 50s and 60s. They spoil all kinds of stuff.
 
Yep. Watch old trailers from the 50s and 60s. They spoil all kinds of stuff.

I would venture to say that more thought is put into making a good trailer these days. If you watch some of those old trailers they're just montages with narration. No build-up, no excitement. Compare that to any of the Mad Max: Fury Road trailers, or the modern Star Wars trailers, or the TDK trilogy trailers. They're separate pieces of art.
 
Yeah most film trailers today do spoil a lot in the trailers there are only some films today where the trailers don't spoil much.
 
I personally avoid many 2nd trailers and promos for the movies I am going to watch in cinema. Specially if 1st trailer is good enough to hype me. I found myself enjoying movies and footage alot more in those cases.


Hollywood is trying recent years showcase a lot and lot more footage they can. So they can bring audience into cinema. They act like cheap ***ore who will sell anything they can to get your money.

And you know I am kind of guy who wants wife material.

I definitely agree with the part about avoiding second trailers for a lot of films. I watched the first like teaser for The Force Awakens, but then went on lockdown where I didn't watch any trailers, read any articles, look at any promotional material, etc.

I figured with so many of the big comic book films, even if I don't know the exact storyline, I have a general idea where the franchises will head, based on the comics. With Star Wars, I knew they could literally go anywhere with it. I'll probably need to do the same with episode 8 eventually.
 
Good thing I don't pay attention to toys. I just watch the main theatrical trailers, so I don't get as many spoilers as other people.
 
I'm surprised Interstellar's trailers didn't give away Matt Damon.

Nope. I have Entertainment Weekly to thank for spoiling that one for me. :o
 
I liked Nocturnal Animals trailer. Haven't read the book it's based on so I have no idea what to expect.
 

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