No Country for Old Men

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Watched this on a flight home from Australia, really good movie IMO, 9/10 for me, really enjoyed it.
 
I saw it again the other day for the first time since theatres. It is an excellent movie, but I'm not blown away. Beautiful to look at, great cinematography, acting, an iconic villain and a direction/pace that has confidence and bemusement.

But I still am cold about the movie. It is distant, the suspense is gone on repeat viewings so I'm just appreciating it from an aesthetic level as it is so distant and removed. As good as the acting is, the movie is just a drag when Anton is ont on screen and the ending is still unsatisfying not because SPOILER the hero died END SPOILER but because it has no catharsis. Unconventional does not mean better, especially when 2/3 of the movie is modeled after a cat and mouse movie. What works on the page does not necessarily work on the screen.

A very good movie, but I just don't find it to be the Coen masterpiece people claim it to be and there were a number of better movies last year.
 
The ending was perfectly fine for me, unsupected but fine. Tommy's story about his dream wherein the guy that will just keep going and going no matter what the situation and that one day he would eventually run into him. So, he retired. He can't stop Anton because he is sort of unreal/out of ordinary. The fire in the horn symbolized Anton's hate that he keeps near and the horn symbolized war. Wherever Anton goes, he takes that and 'starts a fire'.
 
I loved the ending. Unconventional, unpredictable, and cerebral. Watching this movie is like being hit in the back of a head with a 2x4. A very tense ride.
 
Unconventional, maybe. Unpredictable, my ass. The movie broadcasts it. Cerebral...that's up for debate.
 
The Guard said:
Unconventional, maybe. Unpredictable, my ass. The movie broadcasts it. Cerebral...that's up for debate.
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Oh come on, everyone...that didn't read spoilers...had to have thought he would be captured or killed, especially at the end when he gets in the wreck.
 
I just watched this move again, the last time being in the movie theaters, and I think it's still a wonderful film! I have no problems whatsoever with the ending either.
 
Oh come on, everyone...that didn't read spoilers...had to have thought he would be captured or killed, especially at the end when he gets in the wreck.
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The entire movie is spent with people telling us how unstoppable he is...and with us being told just how much Llewelyn is up against.
 
I really enjoyed the scenes where Josh Brolin's character was being chased. It also had one of the best hitmen on film . I was kind of put off by the ending and not so sure that i bought it . Other than that it's a good movie and excellent perfomances from Bardem , Brolin , Harrelson , and Tommy Lee Jones.
 
I saw the ending for what it was: It broke some of the "conventional" rules of cinema, and the Coens stood by it. When I saw it for the second time, I got it.

The characters that you were investing in...were never the main characters. It was Tommy Lee's story the entire time...for that, it made me think.
 
Just got this on DVD...

... can't... stop... watching... !
 
Octoberist said:
The characters that you were investing in...were never the main characters. It was Tommy Lee's story the entire time...for that, it made me think.
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Makes me think. Great film.

I'll have to read the book. Is it written as if its Tommy's character telling the story.
 
chaseter said:
Oh come on, everyone...that didn't read spoilers...had to have thought he would be captured or killed, especially at the end when he gets in the wreck.
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No the trailer and tone of the movie (especially the "You know how this is going to end") tells you point blank that MOss is going to die and Anton will get away with it.

The real (and only surprise) is that the Mexican drug dealers kill him instead of Anton. While i admit I like the irony in that it is not a showdown or satisfying climax, but hte randomness of life of these bastards finding out where he was because his mother-in-law talks too much. However, him being killed off screen gives the audience no catharsis and is very jarring and frustrating. NOt in the enlightening sense. Even if it is close to the book, it actually is more removed from a sense of action than the book (at least the book allows Moss to see it coming before switching to the sheriff's point of view). It was done ot be intentionally "unconventional," but what it was trying to d was be clever.

It wasn't. It was pretentious and hurt the movie. I don't mind the ending about Jones quitting, Anton getting away, the "hero" dying (and not by the main villain's hands) and the wife getting killed on the villain's stupid theories on pre-destination (that are squashed about 5 seconds later). I get all that and do not mind, but the ending outside of Jones' visit to the farm and the brilliant scene between Bardem and MacDonald was cold, IMO. The final scene reiterated what this one note character has been saying the whole movie and was said better many times before (ex. Morgan Freeman in Seven) and putting the death off-screen is bar storytelling in a visual medium. Unconventional? Yes. but when you have built the audience around 2/3 of a cat-and-mouse thriller, it doesn't matter if you are trying to be profound in not giving them satisfaction of the ending (or a final confrontation), but putting the climax off-screen just has an air of ridiculousness.

I liked the movie, but I think people drool over it far too much. It was beautiful to look at and well made all around, but it is certainly not near the Coens' best movie and will only be remembered for Bardem's performance in the future. But anyone who walked in thinking Anton was going to be arrested must have missed the entire tone and point of the trailer and the movie if they thought the car accident was it.
 
Really? Before everyone in the world knew the ending was different from news media and magazines, etc...it was a complete shock to me. I knew Brolin would die...stubborn/greedy men die. But, I never saw that ending coming with no resolution...it was very unorthodox but fine to me. I sincerely thought Anton would die or be arrested or at least go out in a gunfight. Woody also being killed that quick was unexpected to. I love this movie and it deserved all the praise it got.
 
chaseter said:
Really? Before everyone in the world knew the ending was different from news media and magazines, etc...it was a complete shock to me. I knew Brolin would die...stubborn/greedy men die. But, I never saw that ending coming with no resolution...it was very unorthodox but fine to me. I sincerely thought Anton would die or be arrested or at least go out in a gunfight. Woody also being killed that quick was unexpected to. I love this movie and it deserved all the praise it got.
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Agreed 100% Loved every minute of it.
 
Agreed here as well.

Despite the film which i love, I'm just glad Javier Bardem received his Oscar.

He truly deserved it bringing probably one of the most memorable characters on screen to life. I truly adore his performance in that film. Not to say that everything else isnt great although slow at times. I will admit the film lost steam near the end. But a great film and a 10/10 from me.
 
meh...it was ok...wasn't as good as i thought it was going to be...the first half of the movie was really great, then it got slow, and the ending just ruined it for me....i was going to give it an 8/10...but i didn't like the ending,so it brought it down to a 7/10

so i gave it 7/10
 
The ending was unconventional and pure brilliance, but you're entitled to your opinion. :D
 
So I just ordered this movie on netflix, is it any good. I've been hearing things like "its the best movie of 2007" "it's too predictable" or "it's kinda boring". So i don't know what to expect really.
 
Darkly Dexter said:
unconventional = good? :huh:



Not really.
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coonventional = good?:huh:



Not really.:o:yay:

It was different, unexpected, and something new. Tommy Lee's story had everything for an ending you could wish for with its beautiful allegories and symbolism if you pay close attention. My dad hated the ending but he knows nothing of cinema. Those that really appreciate cinema didn't really have a problem with it. It was mostly the casual audience.
 
I understand if you dont like the movie, but i dont understand the venomous hate. Like people really have it out for this movie. It kept the integrity of the book and tried to be different as a film and included some very fantastic performances. The basic attempt to accomplish any of this warrants some kind of respect.
 
My complaints? No music. We didn't see the shootout with Chigur and Louellen at where Moss dies, and the ending was completely ridiculous. I'm reading the book too. Maybe I'll appreciate this more.
 
Asteroid-Man said:
My complaints? No music.
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There is some music in the film. The point of the lack of score was to show that films can be tense and you could feel it without the aid of a terrific score.
We didn't see the shootout with Chigur and Louellen at where Moss dies,
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Chigurh didn't kill Moss. The mexicans did, and given the intent of the scene, it worked better in the film having Tom drive up. Everything seems perfect and fine, there's a false sense of everything is going to be alright, we knew Tom Bell was going to see Moss and try to help him and we see him driving up, but as he gets closer he hears screams and gunshots and mexicans driving off fast, he pulls in and sees his worst fear realized. Not only was he too late, he a mere couple minutes too late. Which plays into the dream in the end.
and the ending was completely ridiculous.
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How was it ridiculous? It's a perfect ending, not to mention it explains the title of the film.
 
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