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Pigeons' toll on Minn. bridge documented
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070822...1&printer=1;_ylt=ArKFi5FKJOQ55a3SiFd_B_pH2ocA
By MARTIGA LOHN, Associated Press WriterWed Aug 22, 2:58 PM ET



Pounded and strained by heavy traffic and weakened by missing bolts and cracking steel, the failed Interstate 35W bridge over the Mississippi River also faced a less obvious enemy: Birds, specifically pigeons.Inspectors began documenting the buildup of pigeon dung on the span near downtown Minneapolis two decades ago. Experts say the corrosive guano deposited all over the span's framework helped the steel beams rust faster.

Although investigators have yet to identify the cause of the bridge's Aug. 1 collapse, which killed at least 13 people and injured about 100, the pigeon problem is one of many factors that dogged the structure.
"There is a coating of pigeon dung on steel with nest and heavy buildup on the inside hollow box sections," inspectors wrote in a 1987-1989 report.

In 1996, screens were installed over openings in the bridge's beams to keep pigeons from nesting there, but that didn't prevent the building of droppings elsewhere. Pigeon droppings contain ammonia and acids, said chemist Neal Langerman, an officer with the health and safety division of the American Chemical Society. If the dung isn't washed away, it dries out and turns into a concentrated salt. When water gets in and combines with the salt and ammonia, it creates small electrochemical reactions that rust the steel underneath.

"Every time you get a little bit of moisture there, you wind up having a little bit of electrochemistry occurring and you wind up with corrosion," said Langerman. "Over a long term, it might in fact cause structural weaknesses." Langerman emphasized that he wasn't saying pigeon dung factored into the collapse of the 40-year-old bridge. "Let's let the highway transportation and safety people do their job," he said.
The problem is familiar to bridge inspectors everywhere.

The Colorado Department of Transportation spent so much time cleaning pigeon manure off bridges that it is embarking on a two-year research project looking for ways to keep pigeons away from its spans.
"It can be damaging to our structures because it's slightly acidic and it has other compounds in it that can dissolve especially things like concrete," said Patricia Martinek, the agency's environmental research manager.

Pigeon guano isn't just a danger to the bridges.In the Denver area, the Colorado DOT pays outside environmental specialists to clean bridges wearing full biohazard suits with respirators because of heightened fears about bird flu and other diseases, said Rob Haines, who supervises maintenance there.

Keeping pigeons off bridges usually requires a multi-pronged strategy that can include netting to block holes and surfaces, spikes to keep them from landing, and sometimes poisoning, shooting or trapping the birds, said John Hart, a Grand Rapids, Minn.-based wildlife biologist with the U.S. Department of Agriculture.

The problem is that pigeons are naturally drawn to bridges and tall buildings since they're descended from cliff-dwellers, said Karen Purcell, who heads Project PigeonWatch at the Cornell Lab of Ornithology. Bridges offer shelter from predators and flat surfaces for nesting and roosting.
"It's a nice fit for them," Purcell said.
 
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Oh, good Christ. Shoddy engineering and a lack of upkeep/service on the bridge are what took it down. Blaming pigeons...hah! :down

jag
 
OH HO!!!!!! I see Bush starting a war with the birdies!
 
Blaming Pigeons....seriously, that's in bad taste considering what happened. :down
 
OH HO!!!!!! I see Bush starting a war with the birdies!

I can see the press conference:

"We have evidence that shows that pigeons everywhere are harboring Weapons Of Ass Destruction and are intent on using them against the free world. We must act now to stop these terrorists before they strike again, possibly on our own soil. That's why we are launching Operation Sh1t Storm; to combat these terrorists in their own lands, before they can destroy ours."



jag
 
I can see the press conference:

"We have evidence that shows that pigeons everywhere are harboring Weapons Of Ass Destruction and are intent on using them against the free world. We must act now to stop these terrorists before they strike again, possibly on our own soil. That's why we are launching Operation Sh1t Storm; to combat these terrorists in their own lands, before they can destroy ours."





jag

:woot:
 
I heard about this while i was getting dressed...I did a double take..."wtf pigeon crap"
 
Pigeons' toll on Minn. bridge documented
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070822...1&printer=1;_ylt=ArKFi5FKJOQ55a3SiFd_B_pH2ocA
By MARTIGA LOHN, Associated Press WriterWed Aug 22, 2:58 PM ET



Pounded and strained by heavy traffic and weakened by missing bolts and cracking steel, the failed Interstate 35W bridge over the Mississippi River also faced a less obvious enemy: Birds, specifically pigeons.Inspectors began documenting the buildup of pigeon dung on the span near downtown Minneapolis two decades ago. Experts say the corrosive guano deposited all over the span's framework helped the steel beams rust faster.

Although investigators have yet to identify the cause of the bridge's Aug. 1 collapse, which killed at least 13 people and injured about 100, the pigeon problem is one of many factors that dogged the structure.
"There is a coating of pigeon dung on steel with nest and heavy buildup on the inside hollow box sections," inspectors wrote in a 1987-1989 report.

In 1996, screens were installed over openings in the bridge's beams to keep pigeons from nesting there, but that didn't prevent the building of droppings elsewhere. Pigeon droppings contain ammonia and acids, said chemist Neal Langerman, an officer with the health and safety division of the American Chemical Society. If the dung isn't washed away, it dries out and turns into a concentrated salt. When water gets in and combines with the salt and ammonia, it creates small electrochemical reactions that rust the steel underneath.

"Every time you get a little bit of moisture there, you wind up having a little bit of electrochemistry occurring and you wind up with corrosion," said Langerman. "Over a long term, it might in fact cause structural weaknesses." Langerman emphasized that he wasn't saying pigeon dung factored into the collapse of the 40-year-old bridge. "Let's let the highway transportation and safety people do their job," he said.
The problem is familiar to bridge inspectors everywhere.

The Colorado Department of Transportation spent so much time cleaning pigeon manure off bridges that it is embarking on a two-year research project looking for ways to keep pigeons away from its spans.
"It can be damaging to our structures because it's slightly acidic and it has other compounds in it that can dissolve especially things like concrete," said Patricia Martinek, the agency's environmental research manager.

Pigeon guano isn't just a danger to the bridges.In the Denver area, the Colorado DOT pays outside environmental specialists to clean bridges wearing full biohazard suits with respirators because of heightened fears about bird flu and other diseases, said Rob Haines, who supervises maintenance there.

Keeping pigeons off bridges usually requires a multi-pronged strategy that can include netting to block holes and surfaces, spikes to keep them from landing, and sometimes poisoning, shooting or trapping the birds, said John Hart, a Grand Rapids, Minn.-based wildlife biologist with the U.S. Department of Agriculture.

The problem is that pigeons are naturally drawn to bridges and tall buildings since they're descended from cliff-dwellers, said Karen Purcell, who heads Project PigeonWatch at the Cornell Lab of Ornithology. Bridges offer shelter from predators and flat surfaces for nesting and roosting.
"It's a nice fit for them," Purcell said.

Man, that's B.S. . .

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. . .I mean P.S.
 
I can see the press conference:

"We have evidence that shows that pigeons everywhere are harboring Weapons Of Ass Destruction and are intent on using them against the free world. We must act now to stop these terrorists before they strike again, possibly on our own soil. That's why we are launching Operation Sh1t Storm; to combat these terrorists in their own lands, before they can destroy ours."



jag

You're awesome. :woot:
 
I swear to god, this country is getting so f'ing stupid it's scary. Something unexpected and tragic happens (I35 bridge collapse, 9/11, Katrina) and people lose all sense of logic.
 
And so begins the pigeon genocide of 2007.
 
I can see the press conference:

"We have evidence that shows that pigeons everywhere are harboring Weapons Of Ass Destruction and are intent on using them against the free world. We must act now to stop these terrorists before they strike again, possibly on our own soil. That's why we are launching Operation Sh1t Storm; to combat these terrorists in their own lands, before they can destroy ours."



jag
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Hes already been marked for death!!:ninja:
 
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There are now reports flooding in from all over the world, from Italy to Hong Kong, Giant Pigeons have arrived. What this means, God only knows.
 
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Hes already been marked for death!!:ninja:

I have to question the sincerity of the Secret Service in being truly committed to keeping President Bush alive to let such a close attempt on his life to be made like that. :down

jag
 
I have to question the sincerity of the Secret Service in being truly committed to keeping President Bush alive to let such a close attempt on his life to be made like that. :down

jag
The 3 agents on duty that day were taken out by ninja pigeons 3 minutes before he was hit.
 
I have to question the sincerity of the Secret Service in being truly committed to keeping President Bush alive to let such a close attempt on his life to be made like that. :down

jag

Just keep an eye on the skies!

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