The Amazing Spider-Man Reboot Origin of Powers

[Ken-Kaniff]

I voted for the radioactive spider. It's the way it happened in the comics and it was a cool idea, so why change it?

But those other options in the poll... seriously, Goblin formula, raw Hulk formula?!? No comment...

 

[Ajendo]

Spider-Man's origin doesn't need to be retold. We all know who he is and how he got his powers, just get on with the movie. Remember, this is a reboot and NOT a remake.

 

[The Slang]

The problem is the suspension of disbelief. Yeah I know its a super hero movie and all but due to most people knowing the true effects of radiation on the body thanks to chernobyl and the WW2 A bombs then the whole radiation thing ain't gonna fly. Anything exposed to high enough radiation to change ones genetic structure is also gonna fry the poor sod alive. Its common knowledge. It just depends on if people can stretch their disbelief. I personally can't (though I accept it in the comics cause whats done is done and its kinda works in a kooky way but in a movie it would kinda fall flat)

Are you fine with the fantastic four getting their powers through radiation? or the hulk?
Some evolutionists consider the possibility that cosmic radiation could have caused the mutations which led to the beginning of complex life. There is a giant photon belt that our solar system passes through every 30 thousand years or so which is getting some interest. photonic and UV radiation, although deadly at high levels are pretty different to the radiation surrounding chernobyl. Gamma radiation is different still. Radiowaves behave like radiation. Do not think of radiation as a SINGLE energy which always behaves the same in high levels. There is ultra high frequency radiation which will not cause any negative effects.
Nikola Tesla had the idea that we may one day be able to manipulate radioactive decay in such a way, that we could produce free energy as a direct byproduct. That is, we would alter the frequency of the energy (radiation) released until it behaves differently. Tesla was also under the impression that with absolute control over Electro-magnetic frequencies, we could make matter behave anyway we want.

 

[the amazing fro]

Are you fine with the fantastic four getting their powers through radiation? or the hulk?

The fantastic four is fine as its sort of cosmic radiation that isn't fully understood yet. It depends how they handle hulk. If its like his 60's origin with a gamma bomb going off like a mile behind him then no. Gamma radiation is far more understood than you think and I believe they know quite well what the effects would be of high contamination to a human. Which is they would be probably either get cancer of the entire body or get burnt to a crisp. Or maybe live long enough to sire a child with one eye and five penises.

It worked in the 60's where people knew jack all about radiation so the idea of an A bomb giving you superpowers was fair game for comic writers. Now it just wouldn't sit well with a lot of moviegoers me included.

 

[Immortalfire]

I don't think they need to redo the origin at all, except maybe a short flashback.

But yeah, radioactive spider.

 

[Young Superman]

I don't think they need to redo the origin at all, except maybe a short flashback.

But yeah, radioactive spider.

Agreed

 

[The Slang]

The fantastic four is fine as its sort of cosmic radiation that isn't fully understood yet. It depends how they handle hulk. If its like his 60's origin with a gamma bomb going off like a mile behind him then no. Gamma radiation is far more understood than you think and I believe they know quite well what the effects would be of high contamination to a human. Which is they would be probably either get cancer of the entire body or get burnt to a crisp. Or maybe live long enough to sire a child with one eye and five penises.

It worked in the 60's where people knew jack all about radiation so the idea of an A bomb giving you superpowers was fair game for comic writers. Now it just wouldn't sit well with a lot of moviegoers me included.

? I never said anything about how much we understand gamma rays. We use them in microwaves. And If I'm not mistaken, a scientist walking around a room where gamma rays were being emitted, and noticing chocolate in his pocket melting, led to the creation of the microwave.
I agree that the fantatic four origin is easier to accept than the hulk. But what I'm suggesting, is that the spider that bit peter parker was exposed to radiation similar to the cosmic radiation in fantastic four.
The fantastic four were in amazing spider-man #1. Scientists of parkers time would have been experimenting with replicating the cosmic radiation which gave them powers.
I don't really think it's necessary to re-do the origin, I'm just saying that a radioactive spider is fine. Aslong as the spider isn't exposed to gamma radiation or atomic bomb radiation, but imaginary artifical sci fi radiation. Which is no different than cosmic radiation. Get me?

 

[Alex_Spider]

You know at first i loughed at the idea of a radioactive spider concept for the movie. But Slang made a good point that it doesn't have to be the same kind like Chernobyl radiation. Just with a diferent tech behind but still radioactive origin. I like it. By the way Slang, are you familiar with Tesla's work? He was truly revolutionary for his time. It sucks tha big corporations got him out of the way like that.

 

[The Slang]

Indeed. He was clearly an inspiration to many comic writers of the era. With his 'crazy' ideas about death rays and matter transporters etc.

 

[the amazing fro]

? I never said anything about how much we understand gamma rays. We use them in microwaves. And If I'm not mistaken, a scientist walking around a room where gamma rays were being emitted, and noticing chocolate in his pocket melting, led to the creation of the microwave.
I agree that the fantatic four origin is easier to accept than the hulk. But what I'm suggesting, is that the spider that bit peter parker was exposed to radiation similar to the cosmic radiation in fantastic four.
The fantastic four were in amazing spider-man #1. Scientists of parkers time would have been experimenting with replicating the cosmic radiation which gave them powers.
I don't really think it's necessary to re-do the origin, I'm just saying that a radioactive spider is fine. Aslong as the spider isn't exposed to gamma radiation or atomic bomb radiation, but imaginary artifical sci fi radiation. Which is no different than cosmic radiation. Get me?

Ahh then I concur

 

[Mace Bloodstone]

I thought this was interesting:

Several biologists on the History Channel’s Spider-Man Tech stated the effect of a radioactive spider bite (if any) would not be nearly enough to cause a mutation in a human body. However, they said the use of "genetically engineered" spiders from the live-action movie and the Ultimate continuity was more plausible. Instead of radioactive venom, the bite would have to carry a powerful retro virus (similar to HIV) that would spread through the body by taking over neighboring cells and actually becoming ingrained in the person’s DNA.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spider-Man's_powers_and_equipment#Wall-crawling

 

[socool]

I thought this was interesting:



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spider-Man's_powers_and_equipment#Wall-crawling

That is interesting but, like Chris Wallace says, superheroes aren't about relaism, they're about idealism.

 

[The Slang]

I just don't see the reason to remove the radioactive spider element. If you keep an explanation vague and mysterious enough... science can't refute it. Which is why there are so many cults.

I find that retro virus concept very interesting. But I'd still include radiation in the mix. example: spider-man gets his powers from this new virus, which originates in the body of a spider when it's exposed to a new experimental radiation generator.

This would mean that an actual spider virus, when exposed to extreme environmental changes, mutates (or evolves) into a strain that was able to infect a person. Somewhat like swine flu.