Religion of the Apes

[psychocheeseman]

Just because they look a bit like humans,like all mamals( apes look a lot like us though). Doesn't mean they are Inteligent as in early human inteligent.

You're right, it doesn't. We are amazingly more intelligent than the great apes - we learn in totally diffferent ways, an evolutionary advantage that helps us to become the dominant species on this planet.

This is smart by the way, promoting the idea of us only being evolved monkeys makes us scared of death leading to us looking for satisfaction from material gains as we have nothing else to look forward to. Material gains means consuming more, and buying things we don't need...this leads ultimately to companies getting easy money for producing things useless to us.

That's awesome dude! you just basically said that "evolution is a lie to benefit big business".... awesome. Totally bogus but still an awesome conspiracy theory!

I'm an atheist and way less of a consumer wh*re than many of my religious friends. But then again, i do know some very religious monkeys who don't fall for any of those tricks of the nasty capitalists.

 

[Danalys]

they actually use tests like the famous spot of paint on the forehead test to assess animal intelligence and awareness. i don't think looks has anything to do with it other than comparitive morphology, but now they use genetics as a stronger indicator of similarity.

as for materialism i don't really see how a fear of death has anything to do with it.

 

[J-Sentius]

You're right, it doesn't. We are amazingly more intelligent than the great apes - we learn in totally diffferent ways, an evolutionary advantage that helps us to become the dominant species on this planet.



That's awesome dude! you just basically said that "evolution is a lie to benefit big business".... awesome. Totally bogus but still an awesome conspiracy theory!

I'm an atheist and way less of a consumer wh*re than many of my religious friends. But then again, i do know some very religious monkeys who don't fall for any of those tricks of the nasty capitalists.

Theory of Evolution is true to some aspects and other aspects need more research before it can be made into " The FACT of Evolution"

We human's go through a sort of"speedy" evolutionary period in the womb that's true. Just think about it, we have more in common (when we're in the womb) with fish then apes. This should give us more insight into how we came into being.

C'mon man, why does everything have to black and white?

You don't have to be an atheist to know evolution.

 

[Knightsaber Priss]

Blasphemy!!!

Yeah, he should have been using a still image from the far superior 60's movie with Charleton Heston.

 

[SuperFerret]

You're right, it doesn't. We are amazingly more intelligent than the great apes - we learn in totally diffferent ways, an evolutionary advantage that helps us to become the dominant species on this planet.

We also think in very different ways and thus we can't accurately judge intelligence across species. Most of the animals that humans consider intelligent display a type of intelligence that is close to human intelligence, and thus we recognize it as such. However, an animal's ability to be "smart" when it comes to "human stuff", doesn't necessarily indicate their level of intelligence.

For example, I can do long division (I hate it, but I can do it), but a gorilla cannot. Of course, I wouldn't be able to survive too well out in the wilderness, and I'd likely starve to death in situations where the same gorilla would thrive. Does that make the gorilla smarter than me? Or do my long division skills boost my brainpower to a higher level than his?

Intelligence is relative, and most species are designed to be intelligent in their own way.

 

[C.F. Kane]

Theory of Evolution is true to some aspects and other aspects need more research before it can be made into " The FACT of Evolution"

We human's go through a sort of"speedy" evolutionary period in the womb that's true. Just think about it, we have more in common (when we're in the womb) with fish then apes. This should give us more insight into how we came into being.

C'mon man, why does everything have to black and white?

You don't have to be an atheist to know evolution.

*sigh* A THEORY is a logically self-consistent model or framework for describing the behavior of a related set of natural or social phenomena. is a systematic and formalized expression of all previous observations, and is predictive, logical, and testable.

It is not a GUESS.

It just really bugs me so many people don't make this distinction because it's one of the main misguided attack methods used by creationists and the like to "disprove" evolution.

 

[Superhobo]

We also think in very different ways and thus we can't accurately judge intelligence across species. Most of the animals that humans consider intelligent display a type of intelligence that is close to human intelligence, and thus we recognize it as such. However, an animal's ability to be "smart" when it comes to "human stuff", doesn't necessarily indicate their level of intelligence.

For example, I can do long division (I hate it, but I can do it), but a gorilla cannot. Of course, I wouldn't be able to survive too well out in the wilderness, and I'd likely starve to death in situations where the same gorilla would thrive. Does that make the gorilla smarter than me? Or do my long division skills boost my brainpower to a higher level than his?

Intelligence is relative, and most species are designed to be intelligent in their own way.

Excellent post.

 

[Aristotle]

Apes have religion? Uh-oh. Wilhelm-Scream hates them now.

 

[Superhobo]

You're right, it doesn't. We are amazingly more intelligent than the great apes - we learn in totally diffferent ways, an evolutionary advantage that helps us to become the dominant species on this planet.

SuperFerret's post kind of deals with this, but this really doesn't have to do with how we learn. The Great Apes, the ones that we've trained and taught, show a remarkable understanding of human concepts, as I've posted before. And, the ones in their native habitat show a similar understanding, but - as some have noted - in different ways. I'd go into it a lot further, but I think Agent Smith said it best, that they've achieved a *folds hands* natural equilibrium with their surrounding environment.

 

[sithgoblin]

We also think in very different ways and thus we can't accurately judge intelligence across species. Most of the animals that humans consider intelligent display a type of intelligence that is close to human intelligence, and thus we recognize it as such. However, an animal's ability to be "smart" when it comes to "human stuff", doesn't necessarily indicate their level of intelligence.

For example, I can do long division (I hate it, but I can do it), but a gorilla cannot. Of course, I wouldn't be able to survive too well out in the wilderness, and I'd likely starve to death in situations where the same gorilla would thrive. Does that make the gorilla smarter than me? Or do my long division skills boost my brainpower to a higher level than his?

Intelligence is relative, and most species are designed to be intelligent in their own way.

That comes down to how they're reared though. Baby Gorillas are reared by their parents, and are taught/observe how to survive. If a baby human were reared in the wild, they wouldn't have any problem surviving either. Heck, we did it for thousands of years, and some people still do.