Rocky spin-off "Creed". Michael B. Jordan. Sylvester Stallone.

[Slade W]

I just seen this recently. It is a very good movie and I thought Michael B Jordan was great in it. The fight scenes were very well done. Every time Adonis landed a punch, I was happy for him and felt a bit of adrenaline pumping. They made me care about the character and want him to succeed. Overall, I give the film 9/10.

 

[TheVileOne]

isn't that what rocky did in the first movie.. remember apollo just picked him at random not because he was a fighter of note.

He was still a working fighter with actual pro fights to his record more than likely. And he was also probably younger than Adonis in this movie. Also, Balboa was a last minute replacement for Creed's fight in the first movie.

 

[hellified]

He was still a working fighter with actual pro fights to his record more than likely. And he was also probably younger than Adonis in this movie. Also, Balboa was a last minute replacement for Creed's fight in the first movie.

so was adonis for the champ in his fight..he broke that guys jaw and was going to jail soon so his manager threw together that fight with adonis based on name recognition alone.

adonis was rocky 2.0..which gives it lower marks to me since I was expecting a different story.

 

[Drz]

My review:

[FONT=&quot]Creed is a reboot of the boxing saga Rocky. Introducing Adonis Creed, the son of the infamous Apollo Creed, with Sylvester Stallone returning as Rocky Balboa. This is the boxing drama for the millennials, which digs deep into self-discovery, family relations and finding your passion in life.[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]Adonis Creed (Played by Michael B. Jordan) is your modern day Hollywood millennial, who’s already going places with his financial advisor career, but he is still an rōnin. Who’s searching a greater purpose for himself. He’s always fought and therefore he wants to become a boxer, but without getting the easy joy ride with his family name.[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]This is the contrast between Balboa and Creed, Balboa was a poor Italian-American who created the American dream (and Sylvester Stallone himself created his American Dream through Rocky) by becoming a champion at boxing and earning the necessary monetary funds to support his family. Creed doesn’t have to cope with these issues, which reflects the same on millennials as well, so the motivation to go from a high-end luxury job that is a guaranteed fund of money, is truly to seek the clan where Creed truly belongs to: the boxing world.[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]The boxing matches are adrenaline fuelled, the shots are done third person with over the shoulder view of the boxers. The music hits the right moment and the theatre enhances the audio, the big screen creates the spectacular simulation that you, the audience member are in the ring and you are the protagonist. I still can’t shake the feeling of excitement off from the big fights Creed goes through: pure, visceral, raw masculinity.[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]Directed by Ryan Googler and written with Aaron Covington. Googler honours the past Rocky movies with cute Easter eggs and familiar tropes, incredibly loyal to the first three Rocky Movies. [/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]The highest give away the movie has by far is Sylvester Stallone’s charming performance as the loving father figure and mentor to Adonis, finding a new sense of purpose and thus, we are reminded that it is the journey in life that matters truly.[/FONT]

 

[superboy13]

I saw the movie opening day and came out of it completely indifferent to the whole thing. It wasn't bad nor good, just meh. The whole Rocky finding out half way through the film that has cancer felt like a cliché I've seen a thousand times in film to create conflict.

I don't think you know what cliché means. In any case, Rocky has to fight through something that he's never faced before with no real drive to do it. Rocky is alone. He had always been, until he found Adrian, and now she left. So did Paulie. Rocky just exists now, but when he crosses paths with Adonis, he finds that fire again. And he fights.

Adonis doing the Rocky montage had no impact because he ran up a street for 30 seconds and then stopped out front of Rocky's house throwing his hands in the air like he achieved something lol. So cringe worthy.

I think you shouldn't text while watching movies, because that montage was like 10 minutes long and had Adonis training both inside the gym and in the hospital while looking after Rocky (runnning up and down the hospital stairs, shadow boxing in the room). And he didn't stop in front of Rocky's house, it was the gym. Remember at the beginning of the first act, when Adonis barely made it there when they started training? Well, this time he did it effortlessly, so he did achieve something. It's no different than Rocky running through Philly in the original movie and throwing his hands up when he climbed those final steps.

I also find it hilarious that Rocky says Apollo won their third fight considering by that point Apollo was not fighting and hadn't fought in years and Rocky proved he was the better fighter. it felt to me that it was only made that way because the movie was about the creed family so they had to make Apollo look like the hero.

You're making assumptions about the film's intentions without context. Apollo was at least in as good shape as Rocky was back in Rocky III - they trained alongside for Rocky's fight against Clubber. Rocky was a great fighter, but he had no more tricks up his sleeve (like going orthodox against him in Rocky II or his speed against Lang) and Apollo was clearly always a superior fighter.

I also did not care for the rap music scattered throughout. I don't understand why African Americans feel the need to be a cliché. Rap isn't the only music an African American can like.

Again, I think you should look up the word "cliché". If anything, the thing you're looking for is "stereotype". That said, the soundtrack was perfectly appropriate for a modern-day Philly. I recommend you give this a read.

I also don't buy why Adonis was so cut about Rocky being sick when up till a month or whatever is was ago he had never even met the guy. It felt rushed.

So? Even before they'd met, Adonis obviously felt a connection to Rocky (calling him "Unk" and shadow boxing along his and Apollo's fights - look carefully, he emulates both fighters). Adonis found in Rocky the father figure he was rejecting his whole life. Part of his arc is accepting where he comes from through Rocky.

Nowhere in this movie did I see an award nomination performance from stallone. I thought his performance in Balboa was 10 times better. The speech he gave to his son alone was better than anything I saw in Creed. I could go on but I feel I've given more than my two cents.

The Golden Globes (and potentially Oscars) seem to disagree with that one.

6/10

9/10.

 

[Iron_Stark]

so was adonis for the champ in his fight..he broke that guys jaw and was going to jail soon so his manager threw together that fight with adonis based on name recognition alone.

adonis was rocky 2.0..which gives it lower marks to me since I was expecting a different story.

It was still a good movie. Just not very believable how he got the title shot.

At his age, fighting in Mexico every few weeks, he should've had about a 45-50 pro fight record. That would've been more believable, him Canelo-ing (current Mexican champ Saul "Canelo Alvarez) his way to a more legit record and a title match.

The most believable fight he had was when he sparred with Andre Ward, got beat and lost his Mustang.

Still a good movie. One of my favorites of the year.

 

[RockSP]

isn't that what rocky did in the first movie.. remember apollo just picked him at random not because he was a fighter of note.

Exactly.

He was still a working fighter with actual pro fights to his record more than likely. And he was also probably younger than Adonis in this movie. Also, Balboa was a last minute replacement for Creed's fight in the first movie.

Conlan's manager: "You've been down in Mexico doing pro fights. Nobody needs to know they were in some hole in the wall."

And Rocky was 30 in the first movie.

If people are fine with the unrealistic events of Rocky they should be fine with them here

 

[Fallen Angel]

'Creed' sequel could reunite Rocky and Apollo (EXCLUSIVE) http://bit.ly/1myWL2q

After a successful comeback in “Creed,” which has grossed $103 million at the U.S. box office, Sylvester Stallone revealed in a new interview with Variety that he’s already getting ready to step back in the ring for another sequel where he’ll play Rocky Balboa.
MGM, which financed the Warner Bros. release with New Line, is onboard. “There’s no doubt that we’re making a ‘Creed 2,’” says MGM CEO Gary Barber.


It’s not clear if Ryan Coogler, who is in negotiations for Marvel’s “Black Panther,” will return as director of the next “Creed.” “I know Ryan is probably going to be gone for a couple years,” Stallone says. “So there will be a quandary on: Do we work with another director and have Ryan produce, or do we wait? There’s a diminishing time acceptance of a sequel. Now they are cranking them out in a year.”




Coogler and Stallone have already developed ideas for the new “Creed.” One version of the story would take place in the past, which would mean — in a surprise that would energize the franchise’s fans — bringing back Carl Weathers to play Apollo Creed, who died in 1985’s “Rocky IV.”



“Ryan has some ideas of going forward and backward and actually seeing Rocky and Apollo together,” Stallone revealed. “Think of ‘The Godfather 2.’ That’s what he was thinking of, which was kind of ambitious.” Stallone said he’d recently bumped into Weathers, who looked like he was still in good shape. “I can’t believe I got in the ring with him,” he says. “Even if it was play fighting.”


Coogler is startled to hear that Stallone has already let the cat out of the bag about their plan. “Oh no!” he says with a sigh. “There are no secrets with Sly.” Jordan sounds more skeptical. “So it’s going to be a CGI-version of Sly?” he teases, adding that he’d like to be in the next film. “I’m trying to think about it. Knowing Ryan, he’ll find a clever way to make that work.”
Another option would be a linear story with Apollo’s son Adonis (Michael B. Jordan) taking on another challenger. “You’ll have him face a different opponent, which I would say is a more ferocious, big Russian,” Stallone says. “You can start to meld my experiences and then you start to bring different cultures into it. And you can see what’s happening with the Russians today in America. The complication will come with the girl’s ambition, because she’s not Adrian. She has places to go, things to see, the clock is running on her hearing.”

 

[Roose Bolton]

I think there's a story to be told about what happened to Ivan Drago after Rocky IV. Maybe Stallone will incorporate that into the next one.

 

[Fallen Angel]

With Sly mentioning the possibility of a more ferocious Russian. Drago Jr is a certainty. Wouldn't be surprised if Drago was training his son and that's how he get's redemption in Creed 2 as he feels sorry to what he did to Apollo.

 

[RockSP]

Hopefully none of that stuff happens. Apollo coming back is stupid (unless it's a dream sequence) as is returning to the Russian well. I hope Coogler and his co-writer return so they can keep the movies focused on Adonis and give him his own opponents without doing complete retreads from the Rocky movies.

 

[Iron_Stark]

If they're going to use a scary Russian and keep with using real life boxers, then they need to get either Gennady Golovkin(he's from Kazakhstan but close enough) or Sergey Kovalev. They're pretty much the scariest boxers on the planet right now.

 

[CaptainWagner]

I wouldn't want just a straight retread, but I think Drago should play a role in a sequel.

 

[superboy13]

I wouldn't want just a straight retread, but I think Drago should play a role in a sequel.

Yup. He did, after all, kill Donnie's father, which set his whole journey in motion. It'd be interesting if Rocky were to pass away and Drago shows up at his funeral and confronts Donnie. Maybe taking the role of Donnie's trainer later on.

 

[Slushy]

Adonis Creed Vs. Mason Dixon I would have loved to see.

 

[OcStat]

I agree that from here on out they need to focus on more original additions to this new franchise. Drago showing up at some point may be nice but I don't think it would really provide much to Aldonis' story. If they don't wait for Coogler I will be very disappointed. He is filming his next movie now I believe, and should have plenty of time before Black Panther to hopefully make Creed II.

This movie is formulaic but it is has the formula for this whole franchise, a smart move when bookending Rocky Balboa's story and charting the course for our new lead. It had enough originality in it's characters and style to even out the film. I've seen it 4 times, went yesterday with my mom who was a huge fan of the Rocky series.

Might be my favorite movie this year, the sequence where Creed is knocked down in the final round and jumps awake after seeing his father is just to damn awesome.

 

[Roose Bolton]

With Drago I think one needs to actually look at the reality of his situation after Rocky IV. He had the hopes of his whole country on his shoulders, and he failed them.

His government had basically crafted him into being this powerhouse boxer who could near beat someone to death and not care, but then he lost. The crushing humiliation of his defeat and the embarrassment it would have caused for the Russian government must have been unbearable and they surely would have discarded him after his loss. So you've got this guy who very likely became a pariah within his own nation who probably doesn't have any experience doing anything other boxing...that in itself could support its own film, but then you work in the fact that this guy killed Apollo and you've got a very real and tangible connection to the Creed series.

 

[TheCommissioner]

With Drago I think one needs to actually look at the reality of his situation after Rocky IV. He had the hopes of his whole country on his shoulders, and he failed them.

His government had basically crafted him into being this powerhouse boxer who could near beat someone to death and not care, but then he lost. The crushing humiliation of his defeat and the embarrassment it would have caused for the Russian government must have been unbearable and they surely would have discarded him after his loss. So you've got this guy who very likely became a pariah within his own nation who probably doesn't have any experience doing anything other boxing...that in itself could support its own film, but then you work in the fact that this guy killed Apollo and you've got a very real and tangible connection to the Creed series.

id be down for that....what happened to Drago after the fight, and then after the Soviet Union fell?

 

[Fallen Angel]

He became and expendable guy.

 

[hellified]

I have to say as a full piece sylvester stallone is brilliant with the way he's done Rocky.

the first movie was a straight drama/character study on a down and out boxer/strong arm for a loan shark loser Rocky Balboa. Who gets one shot to fight the champ and is simultaneously excited and scared for the opportunity. Excited because this is the biggest payday he'll ever have but more scared because deep down he's always comforted his loser status by saying he never had a chance and now that he does and theres a good chance he could be proven a loser by getting KO'd in the first round. Rocky ultimately lost the fight but he stood toe to toe with the champ and survived for 15 rounds and that was the best anyone could hope for...a moral victory. The film was dour and played for straight drama.

Rocky II was the sequel no one really asked for but it worked as a continuation of the story. It starts directly after the end of the first fight and we see Rocky struggle to adapt to being a name and flavor of the month. Even tho he lost to Apollo, the fact that he didn't lose decisively sticks in the champs craw and he demands a rematch to prove that the no name fighter's performance was a fluke. This fight is as bloody as the first and the only reason Rocky won was because he got to feet first after a (somewhat ridiculous) double knock down late in the fight. This one is played pretty much straight drama as well.

Here's where the cartoon begins. BUT theres a reason for that. Now Rocky is the champ and hes knocking challengers out left and right This movie looks much slicker than the first two because now Rocky's world is slicker. He's a celebrity and rich and so everything around him is exaggerated, hell the first time we see him in the ring its at an exibition match again a behemoth..

and his biggest challenge, Clubber Lang, is a massive display of walking rage. Everything about this movie is inflated and overdone particularly the final fight scenes but if your pulling for Rocky it hits all the notes.

Rocky IV is even more ridiculous because now Rocky finds himself in the middle of the cold war. The American champ vs the Russian challenger who's more like a cyborg on steroids. The stakes are over-inflated in that the champ not only has to avenge his friend Apollo's death but defeat the symbol of evil communism for the free world as well and the drama has thoroughly become melodrama but thats in keeping with the crazy celebrity world that Rocky lives in.

In typical fashion for a boxer we find out that Rocky's accountant was crooked and steals all of his money and the champ ends up back where he started. This movie is played much more serious than the last two and Rocky finds himself lost. On the verge of brain damage from all the punishment, he can't fight or at least shouldn't so he tries to manage a boxer and finds that difficult to deal with. In this story we see more of Rocky's family life and find his son who was born into riches has the hardest time adjusting to their new status and even tho Rocky WANTS to be a good father, his preoccupation with his sport is eroding the bond with his kid if there ever really was one. Rocky may not be as good a father as he thinks he is. There isn't even an official fight in this movie just a street brawl for pride because thats pretty much all he has left in his career. Now we're back to the dramatic tone of the second movie.

Rocky VI happens over a decade later with Rocky's biggest supporter, Adrian, gone. Having settled in on a living thats better than being a bookie's thug but not the heights of his champ career we see the ex-champ running a restaurant and living off his former celeb status. We also see his relationship with his now adult son is still strained and Rocky has no answers for it. A "who would win" hypothetical scenario between him and and the current champ, Mason Dixon, reignites an old flame and Balboa dusts off the gloves for just one more shot at the best. While the set up is ridiculous (no champ would ever fight a retired boxer as theres no upside) Stallone is very adept at pushing those root for the underdog buttons so we find ourselves drawn into the movie to see if the old man still has it. He doesn't but in true Rocky style we saw him give it his best shot and thats good enough for us.

Contrary to the singular title, Creed is only partly about Apollo's son, its also about Rocky Balboa coming full circle. The student has become the master and we find Rocky in his former trainer Mickey's position guiding a young hungry fighter who is scared about what he may find out about himself. Creed plays out exactly like the first film but the titular character isn't the real story, the real story is about the guy we saw 30 years ago trying to find the will to go on after losing literally everything. His wife, his friends, his son who pretty much grew up to be a prick but thats pretty consistent considering his upbringing. All of Rocky's touchstones to his life are gone and he's content to fade away until his old rival and ally Apollo's illegitimate son shows up. After some convincing we see the old boxer come back to life this time fully in the Mickey role. Like Rocky 30 years ago, Adonis loses his fight but has a moral victory showing heart by literally getting up off the canvas after getting knocked out for a few seconds. This film carries all the emotional weight of the first film. The recurring themes of redemption and fortitude are as vibrant here as they were in 1976.

We see Rocky develop and age as the actor got older himself over the course of 30 years in seven separate films. And if the Oscar buzz is real, its possible that the series could sport bookend academy awards for the 1st and seventh films. Thats unprecedented as far as I know in film history. He tried to do the same thing with Rambo but the results weren't as good. What could have been an interesting statement on American War Veterans in First Blood swerved into super soldier cartoonville by Rambos 2 and 3 and really couldn't pull out. But you have to give Stallone major credit for cobbling this franchise together. From one stand alone film, Sylvester Stallone was able to get create the full life and times of a fictional boxer in real time.

 

[Apollo]

'Creed' sequel could reunite Rocky and Apollo (EXCLUSIVE) http://bit.ly/1myWL2q

But I'm dead...

 

[Marvel Spider]

This was unfortunately the worst theater experience of my life. Not because of the film, but because of the audience, which was made up of a large bulk of children and teens who apparently weren't taught how to act during a movie. Kids walking in and out of the theater until someone had to kick them out, cellphones (complete with flickering lights), loud front row which laughed among themselves basically anytime Rocky and Creed had a conversation, in addition to girls in the front arguing loudly with each other over who took who's seat, crying babies, and a guy next to me Snapchatting the final fight. When the movie was over, I was just mad. The environment overshadowed the movie for me. Definitely planning on watching it again when I can minus all the distractions.

 

[DlAMONDZ]

I enjoyed it except for the commentating during Adonis vs Conlan. Really bugged the **** out of me

 

[titansupes]

This was unfortunately the worst theater experience of my life. Not because of the film, but because of the audience, which was made up of a large bulk of children and teens who apparently weren't taught how to act during a movie. Kids walking in and out of the theater until someone had to kick them out, cellphones (complete with flickering lights), loud front row which laughed among themselves basically anytime Rocky and Creed had a conversation, in addition to girls in the front arguing loudly with each other over who took who's seat, crying babies, and a guy next to me Snapchatting the final fight. When the movie was over, I was just mad. The environment overshadowed the movie for me. Definitely planning on watching it again when I can minus all the distractions.

Man, that sucks.

 

[Quasimod0]

Yeah that sounds awful. That would ruin any theater experience for me.