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Should bullies be charged with crimes?

Should bullies be treated like criminals

  • Yes, what they do should be considered unlawful

  • No, it's a natural part of growing up


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Bullying is part of growing up. So is juvie for a lot of people. I don't think that there need to be special "bully" laws I just think that children should be held to the same laws as adults when it comes to bullying and be charged accordingly.

A lot of what people consider "normal" bullying is harassment and should be reported as such. And word to the wise, contrary to what your child's school might say you do not have to go to through them to report incidents of harassment or assault. If your child is the victim of a crime you can report it to the police. If you are a minor and you're the victim of a crime you can report it to the police (although if it turns out to be ******** you're gonna be in deep **** so you should probably tell your parents first).
 
My opinion on this situation would be considered harsh and cruel, so I'll merely state that I voted that it is a normal part of growing up.
 
You can only do so much to stop people from being jerks. The truth is that you're never going to eliminate bullying from schools completely. Hell, even grown adults get bullied. It is a part of life.

I think that pretty much everyone has experienced some form of bullying at one point or another. Of course it is wrong and should be punished, but how you react to being bullied is entirely your own doing. Not everyone who gets picked on commits suicide. And to be brutally honest, when I hear of people taking their own lives over bullying, I have to wonder how they would have made it in the real world.
 
This young girl is dead because of the actions of these kids. I don't care if they didn't pull a trigger, they should be held responsible.
 
Eh... I dont know if there should be any special bully laws, but I do think that the bullied should get carte blanche to respond in any way they choose (obviously there is a limit. I'm not sanctioning murder here). Too often are kids afraid to respond to bullying and those that do often get in trouble because parents of bullies defend them to the death "Oh, my little darling would never do such a thing! How could you say that? That other kid is the one with the problems!" Enough. Just.. enough. If a bullied kid wants to slam a bully's face into a steel table with the force of a mountain lion.... so be it.
 
And to be brutally honest, when I hear of people taking their own lives over bullying, I have to wonder how they would have made it in the real world.
Yeah. Because it's not like those people are in the middle of growing up into adults who will eventually face the real world whose social development is getting ****ed over horribly by a bunch of other brats who probably had an easier time about it. They're clearly all rational adults from the get go. :whatever:
 
Not all people are bullied equally so I don't see how being bullied can be considered a rite of passage. A rite of passage should mean everyone goes through the same trail. Meaning all people should get bullied with the same voracity. Obviously that doesn't happen. Some get terribly physical and emotional humiliation and other get a relative tickle. So it's not a rite of passage but simply an abuse some people are forced to suffer through.

If an adult is harassed and assaulted they are automatically asked if they want to press charged but when it happens to a kid they're simply told to toughen up. Shouldn't it be the other way around?

I mean doesn't this double standard reek of hypocrisy?
 
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Back when I was bullied growing up, I responding by giving them a black eye. Then they found another kid to mess with.
 
You can only do so much to stop people from being jerks. The truth is that you're never going to eliminate bullying from schools completely. Hell, even grown adults get bullied. It is a part of life.
You're never going to eliminate alot of crimes including theft and rape yet we don't stop prosecuting people for these crimes. The goal of making something a crime isn't to eliminate the crime itself but rather deter most people from considering the crime and for the most part it works. If prosecution deters most people from stealing couldn't it work to deter most teens from bullying. The acceptance of bullying possibly causes countless kids to be bullied. What makes their suffering so acceptable?

I think that pretty much everyone has experienced some form of bullying at one point or another. Of course it is wrong and should be punished, but how you react to being bullied is entirely your own doing. Not everyone who gets picked on commits suicide. And to be brutally honest, when I hear of people taking their own lives over bullying, I have to wonder how they would have made it in the real world.
Some people are born sensitive and others are born with thick skin. If you're born sensitive you should be allowed to co-exist with others without being driven to suicide. Yes some girls would laugh off having an older boyfriend who openly mocked your sex life in front highly esteemed peers who join in to taunt and humiliate you in very personal way while your heart was broken from a break up during a time in your life when your social standing means the world to you. Sure most girls would laugh it off.:whatever:

If someone is sensitive it shouldn't be open season on them. They should be protected the same way weak people are protected from rape and theft from stronger people. This isn't a Spartan society. The goal in life isn't some unyielding display of strength. It's the pursuit of happiness and the many ways that can manifest. No one should be harrassed or humiliated as a test of future durability. We're living souls not crash test dummies.
 
Why are harassment and assault considered crimes unless it's in the context of bullying?

I think it's because deep down people think that victims deserve to be bullied and bring it on themselves. It's the acceptable price a person pays for not adjusting to society correctly.
 
No, I side with the notion of "standing up for oneself". Don't want to be bullied? Stand your ground and strike back.
 
No, I side with the notion of "standing up for oneself". Don't want to be bullied? Stand your ground and strike back.
and what happens when a bully twice your size breaks your teeth in?

when a old man is carjacked we don't say, "hey guy, why didn't you take some karate lessons". Instead we say, "are you okay? lets go find the scumbag who assulted you".

This aint the movies where every bully victim can learn from Mr. Miyagi and get the girl after winning the tournament. Most bullies carefully select victims they know they can easily defeat. It's called cowardice and I see no reason to award them by allowing open season on the weak.

Some bully victims can't win without resorting to weapon use. Then when they do everyone cries "tragedy" damn well knowing bullying is accepted or ignored by adults and the authorities.
 
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When that old man is carjacked, that's between him and the police.

As for bullies, of course they're cowards. Those who strike the bully back don't get picked on. If another person fails to do so, that's their problem.
 
When that old man is carjacked, that's between him and the police.

As for bullies, of course they're cowards. Those who strike the bully back don't get picked on. If another person fails to do so, that's their problem.
So if McLovin gets picked on by Mike Tyson he should try and outfight him?

What part of "carefully chooses victims" didn't you understand.
 
There's no difference between an elderly car jack victim and weak kid constantly humiliated by far stronger kids. Both are victims of being abused by criminal behavior.

These are not cases where evenly matched opponents face one another.
 
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The part that feels sorry for those who fail to strike back
What if the the victim strikes back and still loses.

Can we treat it like a crime yet?

Sometimes it's like a child fighting an adult. The bullied is simply outmatched and cannot get a clear victory no matter how hard they try.
 
What if the the victim strikes back and still loses.

Can we treat it like a crime yet?

I'm not part of this "we", so treat it however you want

Sometimes it's like a child fighting an adult. The bullied is simply outmatched and cannot get a clear victory no matter how hard they try.
Sucks for them.
 
If prosecution deters most people from stealing couldn't it work to deter most teens from bullying. The acceptance of bullying possibly causes countless kids to be bullied.
In all reality, prosecution is supposed to be a deterrent, but it isn't always effective as one. And note that I do agree that schools should make an effort to stop bullying. But making laws specifically against bullying? I don't really see the need.
What makes their suffering so acceptable?
The fact that suffering is part of the human condition.
Some people are born sensitive and others are born with thick skin. If you're born sensitive you should be allowed to co-exist with others without being driven to suicide. Yes some girls would laugh off having an older boyfriend who openly mocked your sex life in front highly esteemed peers who join in to taunt and humiliate you in very personal way while your heart was broken from a break up during a time in your life when your social standing means the world to you. Sure most girls would laugh it off.:whatever:
Again: Yes! That was totally my argument. I totally said that most girls would laugh off bullying!

If you'd read what I was saying, you would know that I am not arguing that people should laugh off bullying. Naturally no one would laugh off such a thing in high school. But there is a difference between crying/feeling upset about it and taking your life. A huge difference in fact.

I would also like to point out that no one is born with a thick skin. You learn to have a thick skin by dealing with things like being picked on. And that is why I say that in a way bullying has its own place as a part of development into an adult. It teaches you to toughen up. It teaches you how to deal with the nasty side of life.
If someone is sensitive it shouldn't be open season on them. They should be protected the same way weak people are protected from rape and theft from stronger people. This isn't a Spartan society. The goal in life isn't some unyielding display of strength. It's the pursuit of happiness and the many ways that can manifest. No one should be harrassed or humiliated as a test of future durability. We're living souls not crash test dummies.
Yes. Ideally the world would be a quest for happiness where people are protected from evils. But that isn't the reality. The world is full of dumb jocks and mean girls. You don't stand much of a chance in it if you don't learn to toughen up and accept that you won't always like what people have to say about you.

Also, as a sensitive person myself, I take exception to your equating sensitivity with weakness. There is definitely a difference between being sensitive and being emotionally weak.
 
There are different levels of bullying. And from the sounds of things, the evil *******s who drove this girl to suicide really brought their bullying to a whole new level. I mean, they were a few years older than her, its my understanding two of them slept with her, they made fun of her for it, threw things at her, and constantly tormented her.

They broke the law, plain and simple. Statutory rape. Harrasment.

That's exactly what they did so of course criminal charges are warrented.

In other cases, it really depends.

If a school can step in and end things then thats fine. If the victim can put an end to it their way thats fine.

But if niether of these things happens, if the school is inadequate for ending the bullying, if the bullying is a constant thing, then yeah, bring in the police. The bullies are breaking the law by their continious harrassment of another person.

Bullies can really make someones life hell, without even having to lay a hand on their victim. There are other breeds of bullies too, where they also get physical.

I've personally had to deal with a school that just didn't want to know about their bullying problems and refused to do anything about it.

That's the point, I think, where you bring in the police.
 
Bullies charged with crime? No.

They should all be slapped upside the heads with big, comedy sized fish!
 
No, I side with the notion of "standing up for oneself". Don't want to be bullied? Stand your ground and strike back.

You do realize that the girl was 15, and several of her bullies were male, and most of the bullies were several years older than her?

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And to be brutally honest, when I hear of people taking their own lives over bullying, I have to wonder how they would have made it in the real world.


There is a HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGE difference between the emotional maturity of a child, and the emotional maturity of an adult.
 
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