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Show me Da Cheese - Raimi Style

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OK. I do not HATE Raimi's version of Spider-Man. I enjoyed all 3 movies we got from him, but I think so much potential was lost, and so much was mucked up by Raimi's need/want for cheesy moments.

Moments that make you roll your eyes, groan uncontrolably, or simpy shift in your viewing seat as such akward and unneeded moments are played out on the big screen.

So... Let us Count Da Cheese. *looks around for anyone "cutting da cheese*... NOT THAT!!! :cwink:

Starting with SM1:

SM1.1 - Norman during an important moment of SM1, the birth of the Green Goblin.. gives the ad lib of "oooo.. that's cold" as the clamps holding him to the gurney are applied. Way to go Raimi, take me out of the moment with stupid stuff. :down: I know it was Dafoe's ad lib, but as the Director, Raimi had control and could of reshot and/or took it out.
 
The people on the bridge throwing garbage at the Goblin. "You mess with Spidey, you mess with New York", "You mess with one of us, you mess with all of us".
 
SM1.2 - FINISH IT!!! .... "DELIVER US FROM... EVILLLLLLLLLLLLL" :whatever:

STILL.. makes me cringe just thinking about it. :woot:
 
I don't see the problem with that scene honestly. The worst scene for me was in Spider-man 1. Why couldn't he detect that GG was gonna gass him? WHERE WAS HIS SPIDER-SENSE??!?!?!?! AGGGGH!
 
The people on the bridge throwing garbage at the Goblin. "You mess with Spidey, you mess with New York", "You mess with one of us, you mess with all of us".

Good one. I especially "liked" how simple garbage being thrown at someone in armor had such an effect on him (Goblin). And like you have stated, the Goblin I know and love would of toasted them with a pumpkin bomb.
 
I don't see the problem with that scene honestly. The worst scene for me was in Spider-man 1. Why couldn't he detect that GG was gonna gass him? WHERE WAS HIS SPIDER-SENSE??!?!?!?! AGGGGH!

Another good one!!! In the bad sense.. I hated the "Sleeeeeeeeeep" :whatever: still makes me cringe.

And... it lead us to the stupid speech scene on the building top too. :whatever:
 
Da Cheese

Spider-Man 1

Spider-Man 2

Spider-Man 3

Done.
 
I also thought the bus driver being involved in the whole pick on Peter Parker thing was going too far, the way he was laughing with the other kids while Peter was trying to get on the bus. Like the pea shooting bullies in Peter's COLLEGE class in Spider-Man 3. And that idiot reflecting the mirror light in Peter's face.

THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN IN COLLEGE!
 
I also thought the bus driver being involved in the whole pick on Peter Parker thing was going too far, the way he was laughing with the other kids while Peter was trying to get on the bus. Like the pea shooting bullies in Peter's COLLEGE class in Spider-Man 3. And that idiot reflecting the mirror light in Peter's face.

THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN IN COLLEGE!


Agreed. It seems that is Raimi's style to hit you over the head with something to make it VERY BLOODY obvious. It's almost an insult to the intelligence of the viewing audience when he does that, and is the overall point. He is aiming at a very low common denominator audience level in some of his directing.
 
This is what I mean when I say that the Spider-Man movies were directed by adult film makers with children brains. If this thread is for Marc Webb in telling him what to avoid at all cost, I say go for it. And if they attempt to cater to children, write dialogue for Special Ed 4th graders, and have characters with no depth or complexity to them, it will be another creatively dead franchise in the making.

Marc Webb needs to direct the Spider-Man movie for older teens and adults ONLY. Children will still love it (case in point: Lord of the Rings and The Dark Knight) both made a billion bucks worldwide, in which neither Spider-Man film has yet to accomplish with one film. So no BS excuses about it not attracting a massive audience, if you have to bring your brain along with you when watching the film this time.
 
Agreed Kaw. And along that line of thought...

The scene in SM1 in the hospital where Peter and MJ have their "share a Hallmark card moment"... with "when you look into her eyes you're not sure.. but you know what kind of man (Wuz) you want to be..." *Gags*

That moment I always skip over as quickly as I can... sheesh... They should of had smurfs and little ponies dancin in the background. :woot:
 
Starting with SM1:

SM1.1 - Norman during an important moment of SM1, the birth of the Green Goblin.. gives the ad lib of "oooo.. that's cold" as the clamps holding him to the gurney are applied. Way to go Raimi, take me out of the moment with stupid stuff. :down: I know it was Dafoe's ad lib, but as the Director, Raimi had control and could of reshot and/or took it out.

I actually liked that moment. It humanized him a little bit. He seemed kind of scared in that moment.
 
©KAW;19109930 said:
This is what I mean when I say that the Spider-Man movies were directed by adult film makers with children brains. If this thread is for Marc Webb in telling him what to avoid at all cost, I say go for it. And if they attempt to cater to children, write dialogue for Special Ed 4th graders, and have characters with no depth or complexity to them, it will be another creatively dead franchise in the making.

Marc Webb needs to direct the Spider-Man movie for older teens and adults ONLY. Children will still love it (case in point: Lord of the Rings and The Dark Knight) both made a billion bucks worldwide, in which neither Spider-Man film has yet to accomplish with one film. So no BS excuses about it not attracting a massive audience, if you have to bring your brain along with you when watching the film this time.


This quote should be plastered over every wall of every movie studio. Easily one of the smartest things I've ever read about films or even narratives in general.
 
Oh God where do I start?:woot:

SM1 my favorite of the bunch and actually, the one with less cheese I think..):
- The bus scene;
- Goblin singing "Itsy-bitsy Spider bla bla bla";
- People coming to defend Spidey and throwing stuff at GG lol!
- some more scenes, which aren't that significant.

SM2:
- Right in the very beginning, when Peter delivers those Pizzas and he tries to arrange the stuff in that building's closet (the mop etc), come on, is he that much of a n00b? No, it's just another typical "trying to be funny, but epically fails" Raimi moments.
- Peter's "raindrops keep falling on my head" scene;
- The elevator scene with Hal Sparks. I can understand why it was shorter in SM2 since there's a long one in 2.1.:dry:;
- The scene in the train with the citizens of NY and also them standing up to Ock. pfft!

SM3:
- That idiot reflecting the mirror light in Peter's face, at a course! lol Like Joker mentioned, things like these don't happen in college, maybe in high school. Not to mention, it wasn't funny or anything.
- JJJ's scenes, most of them. Especially the first one with his meds. Way too cheesy.
- At the parade: Peter singing and dancing along + the kid acting weird before and when he kissed Gwen
- Bruce Campbell's scene in the restaurant was a bit over the top. Too cheesy and not that funny.
- The whole emo Parker sharade was cheesy, unfunny and definetly not dark;
- "I wanna kill the spider, You wanna kill the spider....";
- Spider-Man swinging in front of that american flag. What does patriotism or whatever have to do with such a personal battle anyway?:dry:
- All the kids in the final battle took away some of the feeling (haha in the end you'd think I hate kids, but no I don't. It's just that most of those scenes were cheesy and ruined certain moments for me). They were not funny, they were not needed. Silly cheese;
- The giant cookie...er I mean Sandman. Was just cheesy.

SM1 & SM2 had their typical Raimi moments of cheese, which should have and could have been avoided, but in SM3, he went over the top, so overal, his trilogy belongs here:
cheese_cellar.jpg


©KAW;19109930 said:
This is what I mean when I say that the Spider-Man movies were directed by adult film makers with children brains. If this thread is for Marc Webb in telling him what to avoid at all cost, I say go for it. And if they attempt to cater to children, write dialogue for Special Ed 4th graders, and have characters with no depth or complexity to them, it will be another creatively dead franchise in the making.

Marc Webb needs to direct the Spider-Man movie for older teens and adults ONLY. Children will still love it (case in point: Lord of the Rings and The Dark Knight) both made a billion bucks worldwide, in which neither Spider-Man film has yet to accomplish with one film. So no BS excuses about it not attracting a massive audience, if you have to bring your brain along with you when watching the film this time.
+1.

And people actually complain when TDK is given as an example, but it is a great example of how well Nolan handled Batman! Spider-Man should be handled that great as well (and no, by this I don't mean it should be like TDK before any of you jump to conclusions, Spider-Man is totally different! What I mean is that it should be handled that good!).
 
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Anytime someone screams into the camera... I think there was a woman in Spider-man 2
 
Spiderman 1=The talk between Peter and MJ in Aunt Mays Hospital Room....pure Cheese.

Spiderman 2=Doc Octavius giving Peter Parker Love lessons:doh:
and the whole Raindrops Keep Fallin' on My Head scene:whatever:

Spiderman 3=The whole Parade scene.


There are so much more.....Raimi never really understood the Charackter of Spiderman,he is and ever was a B-Director.

I hope Webb will hit the Nail with his Reboot,i don´t wanna be disappointed in Spiderman movies anymore.
 
"Who am I? I'm Spider-man!"

Both cheesy and awesome at the same time
 
So... Green Goblin has Spiderman gassed. And he didn't even think of removing his mask??? Doesn't he know that people with masks - like himself - have secrets, and secrets are the way to get them? Well, he finds out later because... well, just because. But he had Spiderman there and apparently he patiently waited for Spiderman to wake up instead of having a peek at his real face.

Lame villiain mentality!
 
So... Green Goblin has Spiderman gassed. And he didn't even think of removing his mask??? Doesn't he know that people with masks - like himself - have secrets, and secrets are the way to get them? Well, he finds out later because... well, just because. But he had Spiderman there and apparently he patiently waited for Spiderman to wake up instead of having a peek at his real face.

Lame villiain mentality!
Haha, I agree, but I would say this is more of a flaw and not really cheese!;)
 
He thought that Spider-Man was a real Spider-Man
 
The people on the bridge throwing garbage at the Goblin. "You mess with Spidey, you mess with New York", "You mess with one of us, you mess with all of us".

OT, but I love your new avy. :up:
 

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