Smoking scenes to be cut from classic cartoons

True, videogames, cartoons, movies... give your kids the credit of a bit of inteligence to tell the difference between fact and fiction, and realise that if you raised a murderer/psychopath/smoker (there pretty much viewed as being as bad as each other these days :p), maybe you as a parent had something to do with it.
 
http://www.ofcom.org.uk/tv/obb/prog_cb/obb67/issue67.pdf


Rule 1.10 of Ofcom’s Broadcasting Code states:
The use of illegal drugs, the abuse of drugs, smoking, solvent abuse and the misuse
of alcohol:
• must not be featured in programmes made primarily for children unless there
is strong editorial justification;
• must generally be avoided and in any case must not be condoned,
encouraged or glamorised in other programmes broadcast before the
watershed, or when children are particularly likely to be listening, unless there
is editorial justification;
• must not be condoned, encouraged or glamorised in other programmes likely
to be widely seen or heard by under eighteens unless there is editorial
justification.
We are not aware of evidence from research in the UK that shows a direct correlation
between children who see smoking on television with a greater propensity to take up
smoking. However, broadcasters and Ofcom are required to protect those under
eighteen and that protection is particularly important where the youngest children are
concerned. There are concerns that smoking on television may normalise smoking.
For precautionary reasons Ofcom expects broadcasters to generally avoid smoking
in pre-watershed programmes. Research published in September 2005 by Ofcom
indicates that broadcasters are very aware and responsible in the way they include
smoking pre-watershed.
Boomerang is a channel that attracts a large number of children – 56% of its
audience are aged 4-14 years. Although historic cartoons such as these may have been made originally for family audiences they are now primarily viewed by children,
including very young children, who may be viewing on their own.
Stylised and comic actions in cartoons are not intrinsically a concern in themselves -
including violence and other activity which in a different context would be
unacceptable. However it depends on treatment and context. We recognise that
these are historic cartoons, most of them having been produced in the 40s, 50s and
60s at a time when smoking was more generally accepted. Depictions of smoking
may not be problematic given the context, but broadcasters need to make a
judgement about the extent to which they believe a particular scene may or may not
genuinely influence children. We note that in Tom and Jerry, smoking usually
appears in a stylised manner and is frequently not condoned.
However while we appreciate the historic integrity of the animation, the level of
editorial justification required for the inclusion of smoking in such cartoons is
necessarily high. We will look at all such cases individually.
Given Turner's commitment to adopt a precautionary approach, we welcome its
review of archive material and action taken to minimise the possibility of harm.
Resolved
 
So they're being changed in the UK? I'm in the States so **** it
 
yes and why don't we just tell people what there allowed to think as well while we're at it...:rolleyes:
 
sigh...I hate the anti-tobacco lobby.
 
Matt said:
sigh...I hate the anti-tobacco lobby.

They're as bad as the tobacco lobby, and that's coming from an ex-smoker who absolutely can't stand the habit any longer.

jag
 
It's like they want to erase history. This is like when they erased the black shoe shining scene from Fantasia.
 
Black shoe shining scene :confused: I thought it was the black Pegasus
 
i am not a smoker but they are vintage cartoons and should be left as is .. this world has become tooooo PC
 
Addendum said:
Black shoe shining scene :confused: I thought it was the black Pegasus
There's this part when these things that kind of look like people are dancing around. There are these black ones and they are shining the shoes of the white ones.

Yeah, it's messed up, but it is apart of history and it's a slap in the face of those who've gone through racism or prejudice to just take it out and pretend it never happened.
 
im glad they're taking them out... smoking is a nasty habbit, and should never be in cartoons as a positive thing.
 
kakarot069 said:
im glad they're taking them out... smoking is a nasty habbit, and should never be in cartoons as a positive thing.
It's a part of our history. Instead of pretending cartoons never smoked, we should use it as a way to show kids that tobacco industries used to target them.
 
kakarot069 said:
im glad they're taking them out... smoking is a nasty habbit, and should never be in cartoons as a positive thing.

I really dislike all of your high school photos, so we're just going to erase all of those pictures of you from that time period, okay? :)

jag
 
you can do that through the use of truth.com... it doesn't need to be advertised on cartoons mostly watched by children. It's immoral and irresponsible.
 
kakarot069 said:
you can do that through the use of truth.com... it doesn't need to be advertised on cartoons mostly watched by children. It's immoral and irresponsible.
I don't think you understand. It's not smoking in current cartoons. It's characters from classic cartoons smoking. Cartoons from 50 some years ago. Those cartoons are apart of us all.
Those cartoons are apart of us all.
apart of us all.
apart of us all.
 
RogueLDN, any art from the past is a document of it's time. it doesn't matter if it's a Tony the Tiger commercial from the early days of television.
We get to look back and learn something about the culture then, especially when compared with the culture now.
The fact that they're historic doesn't mean that they're necessarily as significant as other relics from the past, just that they were created in the past.
If they went back and drew in cell phones and computers in old cartoons from the 30's and 40's, yeah, I think that would be criminally defacing an historic piece of art.

snob:down
 
kakarot069 said:
you can do that through the use of truth.com... it doesn't need to be advertised on cartoons mostly watched by children. It's immoral and irresponsible.

Actually parents allowing their children to be educated by tv is immoral and irresponsible. Parents who require such a great safety net that their children can never see anything they don't want them to do, because they can't be arsed to spend a decent ammount of time educating them about life are immoral and irresponsible. Parents like that shouldn't be allowed to breed.

I saw smoking in cartoons when I was a kid and still hated it. I later tried out of curiosity and found I liked them. You see I have a brain and can make decisions for myself
 
now that is wrong but they're selling the product, simply smoking is fine
 
This is stupid, lame sacrilege.
 
This is wrong plain and simple. It's a part of history like or not, and during the time frame these were created smoking wasnt considered the social problem it is now. People need to grow up and just tell their kids not to smoke if they dont want them too.
 

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