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http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070423/music_nm/usa_hiphop_dc

Hip-hop's Simmons wants to remove offensive words


By Daniel Trotta
Mon Apr 23, 2:27 PM ET

NEW YORK (Reuters) - Prominent U.S. hip-hop executive Russell Simmons on Monday recommended eliminating the words "*****," "ho" and "******" from the recording industry, considering them "extreme curse words."

The call comes less than two weeks after radio personality Don Imus' nationally syndicated and televised radio show was canceled amid public outcry over Imus calling a women's basketball team "nappy-headed hos."

Simmons, co-founder of the Def Jam label and a driving force behind hip-hop's huge commercial success, called for voluntary restrictions on the words and setting up an industry watchdog to recommend guidelines for lyrical and visual standards.

"We recommend that the recording and broadcast industries voluntarily remove/bleep/delete the misogynistic words '*****' and 'ho' and the racially offensive word '******'," Simmons and Benjamin Chavis, co-chairmen of the advocacy group Hip-Hop Summit Action Network, said in a statement.

"These three words should be considered with the same objections to obscenity as 'extreme curse words'," it said.

Ho is slang for ****e and commonly used in hip-hop music while ******, a derogatory term for blacks, is among the most highly charged insults in American culture. The slur "nappy," used by Imus, describes the tightly curled hair of many African Americans.

CHANGING STANCE

Monday's statement changed course from another one by Simmons and Chavis dated April 13, a day after Imus' show was canceled, in which they said offensive references in hip-hop "may be uncomfortable for some to hear, but our job is not to silence or censor that expression."

The Imus controversy stoked a debate in the United States about how to deal with inflammatory words that are widely considered highly offensive but at the same time commonly and casually used in youth culture.

U.S. black leaders such as Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson have led the charge to suppress offensive words while many artists have argued for freedom of expression. New York City declared a symbolic moratorium on the so-called N-word in February.

"Our internal discussions with industry leaders are not about censorship. Our discussions are about the corporate social responsibility of the industry to voluntarily show respect to African Americans and other people of color, African American women and to all women in lyrics and images," the statement from Simmons and Chavis said on Monday.

The network recommended the formation of a Coalition on Broadcast Standards that would consist of leading executives from music, radio and television.
 
I think this is the same guy who does the same thing on my newspaper for the past couple of years now.
 
It will neva work...young rappers won't listen to people like Russell.
 
I don't see why these words have a place in music anyway. Especially used in such an aggressive context.
 
It's a great idea, but it won't work.

Especially when you have those "get rich quick" rappers. You know who I'm talking about! Those people with no talent who see this as an easy way to make money. *coughcashmoneycough*
 
Not gonna happen. "Ho" is as common as "the" in most rap songs nowadays, and habits have always been hard to break.
 
Russell will try to put up a valiant effort with this, but it's rather futile. Cats ain't gonna listen. He's essentially trying to stop something that's borderline inbred into an entire culture. That'd be like.....*insert famous white rocker* telling musicians to stop writing songs about angst. Ain't gonna happen.
 
Especially when you have those "get rich quick" rappers. You know who I'm talking about! Those people with no talent who see this as an easy way to make money. *coughcashmoneycough*

Exactly.

As far as I'm concerned, rap music died the day Biggie died. After that, it was all over.
 
Why would I agree with it? I'm more than supportive of freedom of expression. Throwing my name around like you out your goddamn mind. :o :p
 
As far as I'm concerned, rap music died the day Biggie died. After that, it was all over.

Why do you have to be an Eminem hater? :cmad: Plus, what about Dre's 2001 album? What about Outkast? What about Nas' Hip Hop Is Dead album?

What about, um, Kanye West?! :o

Why would I agree with it?

I guess I got it the other way around! :huh:
 
Small steps...

It's only possible by educating the kids today ensuring that the language they speak is progressive instead of detrimental.
 
Small steps...

It's only possible by educating the kids today ensuring that the language they speak is progressive instead of detrimental.

Young black kids today are hard headed and get on my damn nerves.
 
I love Russell, but I think that by making a big stink about any word, you only give it more power than it deserves.
 
Yeah... Good luck with that Russ. This coming from a man who made his money fame and success promoting artists and comedians who have long used these words in their lyrics and stand up. Russel Simmons Def comedy jam anyone?
 
I'm on the fense on this--on one hand, it would be nice to listen to rap that actually has a point to say, rather than talking about their Benz's and their hos; but, I'm really venomously for freedom of expression, and that is expressing one's self, no matter how shallow or insipid said expression is.

I doubt Russell will get anywhere with this thing, but hell, at least he's trying to change things in the rap genre.

But, you'd think it would be easier to just find more underground rappers with genuine things to say and showing them to the mainstream...
 
I grew up loving rapp in the 90's but as I have gotten older and much more mature I have definitely begun to lose touch with what most of these young cats are saying. It all sounds repititious, nothing original. There are a few guys out there I still like but for the most part how many different ways can one rapp about his car and the rims, his bank account, his many women, his huge house. Heard it all before. I miss the old school rapp.
 
i think its noble what he's trying to do....the problem is, the words shouldnt be censored, rather they should be used appropriately/responsibly.
 

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