The President Obama Thread: "Election Year" Edition II

[DACrowe]

Well Trump is at it again on CNN and Romney went to the Trump fundraiser tonight without denouncing the birther ****. Instead, he gave a wishy-washy, "Well, he believes one thing, I believe another" BS answer that has become his signature.

I hope this backfires on him spectacularly and the Dems paint him as endorsing birtherism. Maybe someone can get a recording of that dinner with Trump saying something stupid. Shouldn't be hard, just press record at any point tonight and it will work.

 

[hippie_hunter]

Le sigh. While I don't see the Democrats trying to paint Romney as a birther to be a successful tactic, this is just some stupid bullcrap that Romney doesn't need that he could have easily avoided.

 

[SV Fan]

Le sigh. While I don't see the Democrats trying to paint Romney as a birther to be a successful tactic, this is just some stupid bullcrap that Romney doesn't need that he could have easily avoided.

I don't think they are trying to paint Romney as a birther, it's more a case trying to paint the Republican party as alot of far right radicals and that's what Romney has to deal with to try make happy.

The more people on the far right fringe that Romney just sits there and says nothing about makes him look like he has no backbone basically.

 

[DACrowe]

Well can you think of a single time Romney has shown a spine and stood up to his base on anything?

When Romney says he cares most about getting "50.1 percent," he's saying he'll say or stand by anybody if they can get him votes or money.

Also, Trump is now demanding after their dinner that he wants to see Obama's transcripts to see where he says he was born.

Here we go again.

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

This birther nonsense is going to get Obama re-elected if it keeps up.

 

[hippie_hunter]

The more people on the far right fringe that Romney just sits there and says nothing about makes him look like he has no backbone basically.

Agreed.

 

[Paradoxium]

The only people who care are birthers or people who are nuthugging Obama. The ones in the middle don't give a damn. Everyone can tell Romney doesn't believe it and is ****ing out to get a vote/demographic. Something he has done ALL the time. Hence the joke, Romney will be anything you want him to be: a midget, NBA player, butch lesbian, lumberjack badass... whatever the hell you want him to be. Romney's plastic insincerity might actually work in his favor this time.

 

[Mrs. Sawyer]

This birther nonsense is still going on? I wanna ask how dumb these people are, but I know the answer.

 

[Schlosser85]

Trump needs to just shut up and go away. He's a circus sideshow.

 

[Mrs. Sawyer]

Donald Trump must be bored with getting rich and doing things just for attention.

 

[DACrowe]

The only people who care are birthers or people who are nuthugging Obama. The ones in the middle don't give a damn. Everyone can tell Romney doesn't believe it and is ****ing out to get a vote/demographic. Something he has done ALL the time. Hence the joke, Romney will be anything you want him to be: a midget, NBA player, butch lesbian, lumberjack badass... whatever the hell you want him to be. Romney's plastic insincerity might actually work in his favor this time.

And the longer he is defined as that to the middle the more unappealing he becomes. Hence, why he should have stayed away from Trump or strongly denounced this. Instead, he is being the "plastic insincerity" you describe. That is unappealing to those who vote on personality which is a lot of the middle.

 

[Matt]

I think you overestimate how much it will matter. Like Dox said, the only ones who care are Obama's most adamant defenders and birthers. Hell, if the polls are any indication (two polls released today showing a dead heat) this is having absolutely no effect.

 

[redfirebird2008]

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0512/76849.html

The most expensive election ever by a long shot. Both "sides" will spend at least $1 billion. Unbelievable amount of cash for something that should be about ideas.

 

[DACrowe]

I think you overestimate how much it will matter. Like Dox said, the only ones who care are Obama's most adamant defenders and birthers. Hell, if the polls are any indication (two polls released today showing a dead heat) this is having absolutely no effect.

Do I think independents will vote against Romney on the birther issue? Nope. That's ridiculous. But this feeds into narrative and perception. And that narrative perception is that Romney is weak, spineless and will say anything to be elected.

That's not a good perception to have going into an election.

 

[Superman]

Do I think independents will vote against Romney on the birther issue? Nope. That's ridiculous. But this feeds into narrative and perception. And that narrative perception is that Romney is weak, spineless and will say anything to be elected.

That's not a good perception to have going into an election.

Yeah but it's just what the GOP wants in a candidate, Someone they can control, Someone who will say and do anything they want as long as they back him.

Kinda like the last Republican they had in the White House and we all know how well that worked out for the country.

 

[Victarion]

Arizona declared the President to be a U.S. citizen by birth. That should be enough to end the birther debate.

 

[Matt]

Do I think independents will vote against Romney on the birther issue? Nope. That's ridiculous. But this feeds into narrative and perception. And that narrative perception is that Romney is weak, spineless and will say anything to be elected.

That's not a good perception to have going into an election.

I think that you see what you want to see and like many of these artificial issues that present themselves before the conventions (before campaigns really kick into high gear) it will be forgotten and really have no effect.

Yeah but it's just what the GOP wants in a candidate, Someone they can control, Someone who will say and do anything they want as long as they back him.

Kinda like the last Republican they had in the White House and we all know how well that worked out for the country.

Is amuses me that you think that the Democratic Party is so much more pure when Obama barely hides the hand of corporate America shoved up his ass.

 

[Czar Colossus]

Very well said....our current leader is as phony as the rest; maybe even more so, since he fits in so well with the Hollywood elite.

 

[Paradoxium]

Narrative perception? Are you kidding me. Dude have you been living under a rock. That's how he won the god damn primary. That's his schtick! It's like the gold standard is to Ron Paul, Rush Hour to Chris Tucker, Weed to Joe Rogan, as a spineless weasel is to Romney.

There is literally nothing new, there is no more revelations. He swung to the left when he unofficially won in a speech, it was comical as hell. Him actually having a little spine is more shocking.

You're treating a pond like an lake or ocean man. This is so classic Romney it is boring.

 

[Superman]

I think that you see what you want to see and like many of these artificial issues that present themselves before the conventions (before campaigns really kick into high gear) it will be forgotten and really have no effect.



Is amuses me that you think that the Democratic Party is so much more pure when Obama barely hides the hand of corporate America shoved up his ass.

Where in the hell did I say anything like that? Show me because I don't remember saying anything of the sort.

This crap you keep doing of putting words in others mouths is getting old and rediculous.

 

[Marx]

Well can you think of a single time Romney has shown a spine and stood up to his base on anything?

No, I honestly can't.

 

[Paradoxium]

My point is, Romney has nowhere to go but up in terms of perception of resolve and integrity. He has absolutely none. So how the hell does Trump do any damage at all? It's already a smoldering crater of epic fail. You can't destroy something that is completely vaporized (in this case Romney's integrity). It's classic Romney.

 

[DACrowe]

Very true.

But I don't want it to go up. I want it to stay at zero. The longer it's at zero, the harder it is to climb up. And if he is going to win in states like Pennsylvania, Ohio and Virginia he needs to climb. All of his own self-inflicted setbacks I welcome.

Just saying.

 

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[hippie_hunter]

Very true.

But I don't want it to go up. I want it to stay at zero. The longer it's at zero, the harder it is to climb up. And if he is going to win in states like Pennsylvania, Ohio and Virginia he needs to climb. All of his own self-inflicted setbacks I welcome.

Just saying.

Why are you rooting during this election like it's a god damn sports event. I mean, I don't want Obama to get re-elected, but I'm not hoping and rooting that he ****s up.