The Dark Knight The TRUTH about Dark Knight

[Wams]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbgLapRAloQ



Im sure the next movie will be more of the same.^

 

[Mr. Earle]

God the song was hilarious and Alfred's voice was spot on!
Thanks man!

 

[Saint]

Haha, awesome. The best part is Batman playing guitar on top of a building.

 

[TheBatman072]

It's funny that you posted this in the Dark Knight Sequel forum. To try and get as many people as possible to watch it and to see you troll the forum and the people who like this movie.

And I like Dark Knight parodies. As long as they're funny.

 

[ChrisB]

It's funny that you posted this in the Dark Knight Sequel forum. To try and get as many people as possible to watch it and to see you troll the forum and the people who like this movie.

And I like Dark Knight parodies. As long as they're funny.

Seems like you're the only one in here who doesn't think its funny...

They talk about The Dark Knights plot holes in more detail here in the behind the scenes video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQ9kDr4z9bc

 

[firstclassclown]

Pretty funny but what does this have to do with a sequel to TDK?

 

[TheBatman072]

Seems like you're the only one in here who doesn't think its funny...

They talk about The Dark Knights plot holes in more detail here in the behind the scenes video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQ9kDr4z9bc

Seems like I don't care.

 

[BatmanGoesToRio]

Thanks for posting this. That video is awesome. Those guys put together all the complaints I have about "The Dark Knight". (Besides the Joker's scars who were not gross enough IMHO).

 

[Sonic1002]

wrong thread... heh

 

[Sloth7d]

Pretty sure everything in that song had an explanation that was blatant or strongly implied.

 

[Brother Jack]

Pretty sure everything in that song had an explanation that was blatant or strongly implied.

It does. The story really isn't as complicated as they make it out to be.

 

[BestGirl]

Someone should direct those guys to this board, where all their questions will be answered.

 

[Saint]

I think you guys are taking this a little two seriously.

 

[Sloth7d]

Saint, are you asking us, "Why so serious?"

 

[MAN O STEEL]

I love how in the comments section of that video, ppl are arguing that Harvey Dent had no reason to lose his sanity, because the guy seemed to have no prior history in Nolans universe of Mental Disturbancy. I had no choice but to point out to them the scene where Harvey kidnaps one of Jokers men & toyed with his life if he didn't get answers, while also coming off agressive & unhinged, thereby hinting that Harvey was slightly deranged before ever losing Rachel or becoming Two face. The Joker as he said, just gave him a little push. Seems ppl just don't watch movies properly anymore.







Steve

 

[Pfeiffer-Pfan]

That was fantastic...comedy gold lol.

 

[RustyCage]

I certainly wouldn't call it the 'TRUTH' about The Dark Knight, but it's a funny parody and I find it impressive that the same guy is playing all three characters so enthusiastically. His Alfred impression is excellent.

Also, for the record: Just because someone is too dense to make sense of something pretty straight forward doesn't mean that the movie's full of plotholes. Like others have said, send 'em to these boards for answers. Shame that answers need to be given though, really.

 

[Two-Face]

Joker: Talking like that doesn't that hurt your throat?

Batman: Least we get rid of Joel Schumacher

Alfred: Joker you putting white make up on the floor

Joker: Sorry.

 

[Bathead]

I love how in the comments section of that video, ppl are arguing that Harvey Dent had no reason to lose his sanity, because the guy seemed to have no prior history in Nolans universe of Mental Disturbancy. I had no choice but to point out to them the scene where Harvey kidnaps one of Jokers men & toyed with his life if he didn't get answers, while also coming off agressive & unhinged, thereby hinting that Harvey was slightly deranged before ever losing Rachel or becoming Two face. The Joker as he said, just gave him a little push. Seems ppl just don't watch movies properly anymore.
Steve

Just because any supposed mental issues of Dents aren't shown in the movie doesn't mean they don't exist. It's not as if the movie showed any details of his life before he showed up in Gotham. Anything could have happened in Dent's life outside the parameters of the movie.

 

[H.A.R.D.A.C.]

That video is very funny and well done.

There is "truth" to part of that parody, Gordon's speech. All Gordon's son, Jimmy, states is that "he (Batman) didn't do anything wrong" while he's watching Batman run off from the pursuing cops.

Then Gordon just belts out this inappopriate speech (well inappopriate for his son, but appopriate for us) about how Batman is the hero gotham deserves but not the one it needs right now and how they have to chase him. Uhhh, all Jimmy said was that he didn't do anything wrong, not "hey dad how do you sum up all of Batman's awesome actions in one sentence?!?"

The first time I watched the movie, yeah it is uplifting and powerful, but once you over anaylze it like we all have done it really doesn't make a damn bit of sense. On my repeated viewings I almost wanted Jimmy to look up and say, "lol wut?". Since when did Gordon become all philosophical ?

Other things like the Joker's actions are pretty far fetched but it's a movie after all and one that I love. And I do scratch my head at the notion of Batman taking the blame for Two-Face's actions. Batman isn't a martyr and doesn't respect killers, period. Yet he feels sorry for Dent and feels partially responsible even when it was mostly Dent and Jokers fault. I thought Dent "knew the risks when he took the job"?

Maybe if Batman and Gordon explained to Dent that Joker switched the ****ing addresses he would have realized the mistake he was making. But nope, dumbass Gordon states that he "tried to save her" when he originally thought he was going for Dent and Batman was going after Rachel.

The movies final act would have been so much better if Dent/Two-Face came gunning for Batman, not Gordon.

Joker is ****ing unstoppable and made all three of them look like *****es in the end. He is clearly the real hero of the film and the only one I have respect for.

 

[BestGirl]

I certainly wouldn't call it the 'TRUTH' about The Dark Knight, but it's a funny parody and I find it impressive that the same guy is playing all three characters so enthusiastically. His Alfred impression is excellent.

If something should happen to Caine before B3 I know who ought to take his place.

 

[RustyCage]

If something should happen to Caine before B3 I know who ought to take his place.

There is "truth" to part of that parody, Gordon's speech.

But yeah, that's the thing, it was supposed to mystify the kid as to what happened, while making perfect sense to us. But honestly the kid himself was quite involved so he probably could make a reasonable assumption based on his dad's poetic summary.

Frankly, I would have thought it was awesome if my dad did that. Imagine what it made his son think and feel about Batman after that, you know? It's like the perfect way to view a personal hero. It's like after an old western when a guy remarks to his soon about the lone nameless cowboy riding off into the sunset after saving the day, and his son is like 'wow..'. He was telling his son that Batman's still the hero, no matter what anyone says or how they treat him.

So yeah, while it's arguably true, it's also sort of a silly thing to seriously complain about because it does end up making sense. Pretty sweet sense, I say.

And about Gordon 'suddenly being philosophical', I would say that he's just been deeply involved with this and clearly has strong feelings about what's going on, and certainly has a crapton of respect for Batman. Of course he would have something weighty to say to commemorate what Batman's doing, just like he would at the funeral of a close friend. Gordon's an appreciative guy, and anyone would understand why after what he's been through. Not just in TDK, but also his entire career.

And I do scratch my head at the notion of Batman taking the blame for Two-Face's actions. Batman isn't a martyr and doesn't respect killers, period. Yet he feels sorry for Dent and feels partially responsible even when it was mostly Dent and Jokers fault. I thought Dent "knew the risks when he took the job"?

How on earth did you miss the point of Batman taking the blame for that? It was because Gotham needed to think Harvey died a hero, that he was incorruptible, that there was hope and inspiration in the form of ordinary human beings without masks that simply act because they care. I mean, Batman and Gordon explain it perfectly, in detail.

It's not about 'feeling sorry' for Dent and it's not about respecting killers. It's about the bigger picture, about Batman's mission.

The movies final act would have been so much better if Dent/Two-Face came gunning for Batman, not Gordon.

For starters, he had no connections to get at Batman EXCEPT for Gordon (who he did have connections to get at, because Gordon is a cop and not a masked vigilante, thus he's far more vulnerable and easy to track down or threaten). So anyway, he got Gordon, and getting Gordon means he's also got Batman. Voila! He has them both!

Surely I don't have to explain why getting Gordon gets him Batman, do I?

Also, Gordon wasn't inaccurate in saying they tried to save her, it doesn't matter if they didn't know which address was which, Batman and Gordon were a team, and they were attempting to save both Harvey and Rachel at the same time by splitting up.

Further, do you really think it's a good idea to reveal the address switch thing to a guy who's clearly lost his mind and is about to shoot your family and you? With the possibility that it may incriminate you worse in his eyes, if not just piss him off more period to hear about it? Do you really think Harvey could have been talked down at that point? He was there to do what he was there to do. He wanted to die too.

But anyway, Gordon said the quickest and easiest thing he could to try to defend himself and his family. It wasn't a lie, either. It was just vague, to get the point across to Dent.

 

[H.A.R.D.A.C.]

How on earth did you miss the point of Batman taking the blame for that? It was because Gotham needed to think Harvey died a hero, that he was incorruptible, that there was hope and inspiration in the form of ordinary human beings without masks that simply act because they care. I mean, Batman and Gordon explain it perfectly, in detail.

That's the thing Rusty my boy, I DIDN'T MISS IT. I know the plot all too well.

"Ohhhh Batman takes the blame because if the people of Gotham find out that Dent murdered corrupt police officers, mob members and attempted to kill a child all of those he convicted would be allowed out of jail".

I'm not an idiot and I understand it completely. It's corny as hell when you think about it and overanalyze it like so many people on here do. The film tries it's hardest to make Batman something MORE than he really is. If Alfred didn't expain this enough through his cockney dialogue I don't know how else to explain it to you.

Batman is a ****ing Dark Knight, everything Gordon says in that speech is true. An unnecessary martyr though? No. Incorruptible, UNLIKE Dent, you bet. That's why Two-Face/Harvey Dent has always been the villian.

Dent was in the wrong. Joker didn't break Batman or Gordon (he almost did) but it was Dent who was the ***** all along. He tried to kill an innocent kid, that's unforgivable and something that shouldn't just be "swept" under the table.

The fact that Gordon went along with this after Two-Face just threatened his family with DEATH is just baffling.

Regardless, we both know what's going to become of this. THE TRUTH WILL BE TOLD. It'll make Batman and Gordon look like idiots for not just putting the blame on Two-Face and The Joker in the first place.

Who's going to pay for Batman and Jim's "righteous" lies, huh? The City. The one thing they're tying to protect.

Alfred lying to Bruce about Rachel is one thing, lying to the whole city because of a monster? That's another.

**** is going to fly in the sequel.

Also, Gordon wasn't inaccurate in saying they tried to save her, it doesn't matter if they didn't know which address was which, Batman and Gordon were a team, and they were attempting to save both Harvey and Rachel at the same time by splitting up.

Nope, nope, nope. Joker changed the addresses, THE JOKER. Dent was foolish enough to believe the Joker.

If Gordon were to have just told him that THE JOKER switched the addresses as part of his plan then who knows what could have happened. You and me could sit here and try and think it all out, but you know what, it DIDN'T.

Frankly it would have been GENIUS if he just blew Jimmy's brains out. I kid, but it was all pretty predictable though.

Further, do you really think it's a good idea to reveal the address switch thing to a guy who's clearly lost his mind and is about to shoot your family and you? With the possibility that it may incriminate you worse in his eyes, if not just piss him off more period to hear about it? Do you really think Harvey could have been talked down at that point? He was there to do what he was there to do. He wanted to die too.

Of course not. Two-Face might have done what I just stated above and maybe more with the rest of Gordon's family. Two-Face was a threat and needed to be dealt with.

Everything Dent stood for is going to come "undone" anyway. That's the point.

Don't try to act so all knowing and make it seem like I don't know what I'm talking about. There are plot holes. Your attempts at being superior in a petty disagreement such as this is pointless considering we have very different views.

Do we know in The Dark Knight how Gordon is going to put the blame on Batman who just hours before Dent's death saved the city from the Joker? No. Is Maroni dead, one of two people who could possibly testify against Dent, what about Rameriez? No.

If the story isn't wrapped up and we have to make our own assumptions it's not a fulfilling ending, hence plotholes. As nice as that end montage is and as much as we love the fillm it isn't flawless.

But damn with all of it's flaws I still love the movie.

 

[Brother Jack]

Do we know in The Dark Knight how Gordon is going to put the blame on Batman who just hours before Dent's death saved the city from the Joker? No. Is Maroni dead, the one of two people who could possibly testify against Dent, what about Rameriez? No.

Gordon's the commissioner, it's obvious that he called in the manhunt on Batman, if nothing else based on the fact that he had just killed Harvey Dent. There is no evidence to suggest Batman didn't kill the others, and Bats being an unknown vigilante he won't be taken in for question. You can pin almost anything on him with the "he is clearly insane" reasoning and it will fly. Also, Maroni is dead and Batman was too late to save the city from Joker (which by the way, did not happen hours before). Sure he took him down, but it was after the damage had been done.

 

[H.A.R.D.A.C.]

Also, Maroni is dead and Batman was too late to save the city from Joker (which by the way, did not happen hours before). Sure he took him down, but it was after the damage had been done.

Oh, OH, Maroni is dead?

I don't like having the things on screen spelled out for me but there is NO way you can tell me that the film gave any indication that Maroni died.

The car flipped? So what? People have survived car crashes without seatbelts and have died in them WITH them on.

The time frame wasn't days or months between the time Batman apprehends Joker to the point where Batman "supposedly" threatned and killed Dent. It was that night (or morning after 12 if you want to get technical, which you do). It could be a few hours (like I stated), an hour, or minutes.

What about Dent's gun? The one thing that could link and trace these murders? I don't recall Batman and Gordon taking and/or hiding it. Or did the gun that Dent killed/threatned those people with disappear off screen just like Maroni died?

Maybe Rust was right, maybe I did miss alot.

What about Rameriez? Do we know for sure that she's just going to listen to Gordon after getting bashed in the head by the butt of a pistol and always being singled out?

This is the perfect chance for her to finally tell the truth, to redeem herself. She's REALLY going to risk it all just to save Dent's butt (which is dead afterall, and rightfully so)?

There are more involved than just Batman and Gordon. I want to see them tell their greek tragedy ******** to the likes of the Joker who could probably give reasonable proof as to what happened.

It's funny that the Joker is the only one who really makes sense in this film. It really is.