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http://www.canmag.com/nw/6673-kevin-munroe-tmnt-violence
February 7, 2007

The Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles are funny action heroes, but they’re still martial arts badasses. They have to take out the bad guys, and that requires violence. Too bad the ratings board won’t allow the best parts of their fights in the new TMNT film.

Animated TMNT Violence
“The biggest enemy is going to be intensity,” said director Kevin Munroe. “It’s not violence. It’s never really glorified. It’s always done with the sort of turtle’s spirit which is cool. It’s not language or blood. It’s sort of just intensity where those fun peaks and valleys come from when you’re telling the story.”

However, the MPAA set a mandate early on that nunchucks to the head will never pass a PG rating. “They still use their weapons, it’s just you’ve got to kinda cut around it. It’s the implication of a lot of stuff. For some reason, it’s a hot button topic with the nunchucks for some reason, but nobody’s really come down about the kitanas. That sort of seems that’s so far out, that it’s not as graspable by kids. You work around it. You push it as much as you can. When you get nailed for it, you try to pull it back a little and still sort of try to maintain what you’re going for.”


Perhaps it’s best for the international marketability of the film. “Nunchucks are absolutely illegal in the UK,” said producer Thom Gray. “You can't even show them being whipped around. You could show them in a belt but you can't show 'em [in use]. And the throwing stars are totally illegal. You get into Germany and Scandanavia and they really say, 'No way, that has to come out.' And you can only positive cut that stuff so it's going to remain to be seen. We had to kind of work around that. It's not going to be that apparent in the fights because there's so much going on and your eyes are not even going to see it. But clearly we were told up front, don't whack anybody over the head with a nunchuck because it's going to come out.”

With animation based in Hong Kong, expect to see some authentic fight animation. “We blocked everything out here so we had the camera setup,” said Munroe. “We certainly knew where it was going and then the animation director would come back and he would say, 'Would you mind if we just opened this shot up just a bit?' I'd be like, 'Give it a shot.' And they would just do this phenomenal move and just adding different fighting styles for all the different characters. We knew we wanted this stuff and I didn't realize just how clearly it would come out, just how very impressive it would look when you see the turtle do the fighting.”

TMNT opens to theatres on March 23rd, 2007.
 
i heard that too, but if you think about it, the old movies never used any kind of nunhuck violence, either... i mean, i don't like it either, but it worked well enough in the movies, so...

... and, speaking of which, why does Leo carry swords, and never slice anything?
 
Great we make all the hit movies about mutant turtles but we've got to take out any shurikens and nunchuck blows out because other countries are gay.
 
Great we make all the hit movies about mutant turtles but we've got to take out any shurikens and nunchuck blows out because other countries are gay.
Agreed. Who cares what other countries think. Just cut it a certain way for them and give us something good.
 
like what the article said, why attack nunchucks when you got the more violent sais and katana swords in plain sight? Please...
 
Based on reviews of the film the lack of nunchuck use is hardly noticeable. Mikey has them in his hands during the fight scenes, swings them around, but only makes contact off camera.

Completely stupid? Yes. But won't seem to ruin the film.
 
Perhaps it’s best for the international marketability of the film. “Nunchucks are absolutely illegal in the UK,” said producer Thom Gray. “You can't even show them being whipped around. You could show them in a belt but you can't show 'em [in use].

That's not true at all! The ban on nunchucks was lifted in 2003. I can't believe they missed that.
 
How are sai "more violent" than nunchaku?
They are defensive and not a sharp weapon!
 
Sais can penetrate. Nunchucks can't. Even a blunt Sai can go through a watermelon.

But yes, I do agree that this is quite ridiculous. Especially since one of them is weilding twin katanas.
 
It's a incredibly stupid ban that you can see nunchucks on screen, but yet if they are being seen hitting someone, all of a sudden it's banned in 5 countries. I heard that the UK edited out a scene from Star Wars with Jango head butting Obi-wan, because they saw that as imitatable behaviour (what, and punching and kicking aren't?)

I mean, why remove them? They show Mikey using his nunchucks and the turtles throwing shurikens in the 2003 cartoon, and from what I heard they don't censor those scenes out in other countries, so why does this have to be different?


Censorship sucks.
 
Kevin Munroe, on the technodrome forums, assured us that Mikey WILL use his nunchucks in this film. Recent reviews of the film have hinted as much as well. So don't fret gang!
 
i heard that too, but if you think about it, the old movies never used any kind of nunhuck violence, either... i mean, i don't like it either, but it worked well enough in the movies, so...

... and, speaking of which, why does Leo carry swords, and never slice anything?

Hardly a true answer but, when I was a wee munchkin, my Dad used to explain it as Leonardo and the other Turtles carrying weapons purely for defence and not for attack.

Which does make some sense, but less when you consider that Mikey isn't ever seen carrying his nunchucks so he's clearly in a lot more danger...especially considering his ninja fighting skills don't always seem on par with the others.

It does seem stupid when you consider Little Benny can go see the film and see Leo and Raph fighting with swords and sais and think "Mummy has sharp knives in the kitchen drawer, I wonder if Little Suzie wants to play slice-up?" or sees Donnie whacking people with his bo staff and thinks "I could smack Little Suzie something chronic over the head with Grandad's walking stick"
 
It's a incredibly stupid ban that you can see nunchucks on screen, but yet if they are being seen hitting someone, all of a sudden it's banned in 5 countries. I heard that the UK edited out a scene from Star Wars with Jango head butting Obi-wan, because they saw that as imitatable behaviour (what, and punching and kicking aren't?)

Absolutely true (I live in England).

But as I say, the nunchuck ban has been removed.
 
Hardly a true answer but, when I was a wee munchkin, my Dad used to explain it as Leonardo and the other Turtles carrying weapons purely for defence and not for attack.

Which does make some sense, but less when you consider that Mikey isn't ever seen carrying his nunchucks so he's clearly in a lot more danger...especially considering his ninja fighting skills don't always seem on par with the others.

It does seem stupid when you consider Little Benny can go see the film and see Leo and Raph fighting with swords and sais and think "Mummy has sharp knives in the kitchen drawer, I wonder if Little Suzie wants to play slice-up?" or sees Donnie whacking people with his bo staff and thinks "I could smack Little Suzie something chronic over the head with Grandad's walking stick"

LOL

Turtles, at it's peak, did lead kids to do stupid things though.

Speaking from my own experience, one ill-judged 'ninja' fight led me to to jump-kick a fellow student in the back. Not especially hard, and I was but eight, but afterwards I had six kids 'telling on me' and I had to make out that 'he started it.' I have no idea how, as it was six against one, but she decided it was six of one and half a dozen of the other. MWAHAHAHAAA! I got away with it!

More serious is the time my friends and I decided to crawl through a river pipe which has dried out in the summer. Very stupid. We used to hang around the connecting ditch, and I made an improvised sword out of a bamboo cane and a BMX handle.
 
I agree. Seeing as how I live in Canada, there's not gonna be any cuts, but why the hell don't we ever get to see some killer nunchaku action.
I was finally looking forward to some great weapons action, especially Raph, but I do agree that katanas are much more of a lethal weapon than nunchaku....they're the only weapon wielded by the turtles capable of cutting stuff; sais are not sharp, they never were, but Hollywood feels the need to make everything more violent. While they may not be sharp, they do have a point and with enough force could definitely kill someone.

It's total BS that we should all have to suffer because of a few stuffy Brits who think that every kid who sees the movie is gonna run out and make some 'chuks for themselves...I remember when I was a kid, we had PLASTIC ones, made of green plastic, whith hollow insides. Kids wanna emulate the turtles? Give em plastic toys and don't cut or restrict a movie based on the minority of countries that have banned them.
 
It's dumb about the chucks, so what if they are illegal in some places etc., they shopuldn't cater to just one country. We wanna' see everything done the right way, including some chucking!
 
also weird considering they got Casey bludgeoning(sp?) people with hockey sticks
 

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