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Didn't see one of these specifically although, willing to merge with the 'Just saw it' thread.
So I came back from watching Wanted Yesterday and I am in two minds about it. One mind about it as an individual film and another mind about how the characters are adapted from the comics and how true they are to their intended forms.
Firstly, as a stand alone movie, it's awesome truelly great. Gibson was awesome, fox was awesome and sloan was awesome as well as Gibson's father as well (although i wished his pretend father did have a moustache though). I could see the twist coming slightly earlier than the average viewer but i did enjoy watching the cinema gasp at the revelation of it all. I liked the way gibson manned up to take them all down (not sure about all the rat stuff though but meh). I also liked the subtle reveal at the end that while they felt they were doing good work, ultimately fate had decided they were the bad guys after all. I only wish more people would have been in on this and fox was none the wiser. I'm glad she had the moral fibre to put herself down as well but then again, i don't know why she wouldn't also put gibson's name down unless his was completely manufactured as well by sloan.
Personally i thought the whole cloth idea was slightly too far fetched for my liking, i was half expecting wesley to go 'are you ****ing serious?'
Gibson made a great change from purposeless man to a man with some goals, great film overall.
Now my issues are with the comic book translation.
In the comics, the themes are about a person who doesn't believe he is capable of anything who ultimately realises he can do anything he wants. in the film I believe, this is somewhat removed slightly and it simply shows he has gifts and now with his attachment to his father, he has something to work towards. Now in the comics, it was his mother who was the catalyst for keeping him pretty downbeat and it was his father who wanted to set him free, while in the film it was his father who wanted to keep him away from the fraternity (with the fraternity messing with him by putting cash into his account).
Now I don't mind about his dad going rogue but he still should have played a part into trying to get gibson to grow a pair and there should have been more insight into his relationship with his mother and their relationship. I'm also not sure wesley's life was down trodden enough for him to truelly embrace his new found abilities and exploit them thoroughly. His aim was more to get back at those who were against his father rather than those against him personally.
Now this may have been a factor of having them simply as assassins of fate rather than supervillains who seized control of the way things are, however i'm not sure if they felt if the audience will feel sympathetic towards folks who have been removed of all senses of moral fibre. I still think some scenes with him getting beaten up and robbed on the way home by hispanics and then beating them up would have been cool.
I still think gibson should have suited up in his high tech gear at least at one point in the film and also should have revelled more in the killing. I do believe the whole chair torture scenes weren't done well enough to show that gibson a soft man had become completely unhinged with taking severe amounts of punishment and also with killing an ally BUT that wouldn't have helped scenes later on when he speaks to fox about her reasons for joining.
One great thing about this film is that they don't uncover everything from the book, it's only six issues long, yet i recon you could squeeze another two films out of it based on how much of it they really used so far. I mean they mentioned other gangs and an international organisation is certainly not out of the question. I mean since sloan is dead, gibson may well be entitled to his own branch as a somewhat crimelord, you could easily write that sloan was just about to become one and then start that whole different lifestlye again. It's also not past them showing fox may have been placed in a regeneration tank or maybe she has 'powers/skills' not shown already in the film.
same goes for mister rictus, the scenes were he dies is when he may truelly realise there is no life after death and starts getting ruthless.
With one film based around the villains taking over and another based on his relationship with his mother, then I don't think this is a bad thing. I still dont really believe the two men shown to be gibson's fathers are actually him, i believe its the grey haired dude and i'd love to see that unravel in the next few films with gibson ultimately killing him in the last one.
As a continuing franchise, I am very very very happy with the product and I think Wanted can go on to do great things. Movie of the summer so far for me and also best character development. I also mention going after the dude who killed the fox's dad (not sure he finally got hit yet) but that would be some cool plot device as well.
oh, and the franternity gun fight is clearly nothing short of insane....
So I came back from watching Wanted Yesterday and I am in two minds about it. One mind about it as an individual film and another mind about how the characters are adapted from the comics and how true they are to their intended forms.
Firstly, as a stand alone movie, it's awesome truelly great. Gibson was awesome, fox was awesome and sloan was awesome as well as Gibson's father as well (although i wished his pretend father did have a moustache though). I could see the twist coming slightly earlier than the average viewer but i did enjoy watching the cinema gasp at the revelation of it all. I liked the way gibson manned up to take them all down (not sure about all the rat stuff though but meh). I also liked the subtle reveal at the end that while they felt they were doing good work, ultimately fate had decided they were the bad guys after all. I only wish more people would have been in on this and fox was none the wiser. I'm glad she had the moral fibre to put herself down as well but then again, i don't know why she wouldn't also put gibson's name down unless his was completely manufactured as well by sloan.
Personally i thought the whole cloth idea was slightly too far fetched for my liking, i was half expecting wesley to go 'are you ****ing serious?'
Gibson made a great change from purposeless man to a man with some goals, great film overall.
Now my issues are with the comic book translation.
In the comics, the themes are about a person who doesn't believe he is capable of anything who ultimately realises he can do anything he wants. in the film I believe, this is somewhat removed slightly and it simply shows he has gifts and now with his attachment to his father, he has something to work towards. Now in the comics, it was his mother who was the catalyst for keeping him pretty downbeat and it was his father who wanted to set him free, while in the film it was his father who wanted to keep him away from the fraternity (with the fraternity messing with him by putting cash into his account).
Now I don't mind about his dad going rogue but he still should have played a part into trying to get gibson to grow a pair and there should have been more insight into his relationship with his mother and their relationship. I'm also not sure wesley's life was down trodden enough for him to truelly embrace his new found abilities and exploit them thoroughly. His aim was more to get back at those who were against his father rather than those against him personally.
Now this may have been a factor of having them simply as assassins of fate rather than supervillains who seized control of the way things are, however i'm not sure if they felt if the audience will feel sympathetic towards folks who have been removed of all senses of moral fibre. I still think some scenes with him getting beaten up and robbed on the way home by hispanics and then beating them up would have been cool.
I still think gibson should have suited up in his high tech gear at least at one point in the film and also should have revelled more in the killing. I do believe the whole chair torture scenes weren't done well enough to show that gibson a soft man had become completely unhinged with taking severe amounts of punishment and also with killing an ally BUT that wouldn't have helped scenes later on when he speaks to fox about her reasons for joining.
One great thing about this film is that they don't uncover everything from the book, it's only six issues long, yet i recon you could squeeze another two films out of it based on how much of it they really used so far. I mean they mentioned other gangs and an international organisation is certainly not out of the question. I mean since sloan is dead, gibson may well be entitled to his own branch as a somewhat crimelord, you could easily write that sloan was just about to become one and then start that whole different lifestlye again. It's also not past them showing fox may have been placed in a regeneration tank or maybe she has 'powers/skills' not shown already in the film.
same goes for mister rictus, the scenes were he dies is when he may truelly realise there is no life after death and starts getting ruthless.
With one film based around the villains taking over and another based on his relationship with his mother, then I don't think this is a bad thing. I still dont really believe the two men shown to be gibson's fathers are actually him, i believe its the grey haired dude and i'd love to see that unravel in the next few films with gibson ultimately killing him in the last one.
As a continuing franchise, I am very very very happy with the product and I think Wanted can go on to do great things. Movie of the summer so far for me and also best character development. I also mention going after the dude who killed the fox's dad (not sure he finally got hit yet) but that would be some cool plot device as well.
oh, and the franternity gun fight is clearly nothing short of insane....
t: But maybe it was all in the comic and the author is the one to blame 
I have no knowledge of the source material.
