Worst Actor

[DarkSovereignty]

it was a perfectly logical line of reasoning. he was privatizing the "military industrial complex." and it had nothing to do with Stark being mean to him. he was ambitious enough to continue going after being rejected by Stark. Pepper said that he had approached her several times. he was looking for funding. i'd say that his use of the Mandarin was actually clever. no one saw it coming. Stark didn't figure it out until he met Trevor. he played the **** out of the military; managed to capture Rhodey, the President, Pepper, and Stark. i think people overplay the revenge angle. Killian needed Stark to perfect extremis. his real motivation was controlling armed conflict. it's no lamer than any other villain we've seen.

Yes...we've got the "how" of his plans, but we're never given a definitive "why." He's your standard 2-dimensional shady business man. He played it as well as he could because Guy Pearce is a great actor. And I do actually like the movie, particularly the twist surrounding the mandarin, at least conceptually. I just didn't find Aldrich Killian a sufficient replacement for the red herring they had given us.

 

[CyclopsWasRight]

Loki didn't really have much of a "why" in Avengers though.

He wanted to rule people, just because.

 

[Mrs. Sawyer]

Yes...we've got the "how" of his plans, but we're never given a definitive "why." He's your standard 2-dimensional shady business man. He played it as well as he could because Guy Pearce is a great actor. And I do actually like the movie, particularly the twist surrounding the mandarin, at least conceptually. I just didn't find Aldrich Killian a sufficient replacement for the red herring they had given us.

Exactly.

The probem with the logic of the motivation Ant-Manic is that we haven't really seen that struggle. We hadn't seen if that was the reason why he wasn't taken seriously. The only proof we had was a drunk and distracted Stark. That's not a compelling enough catharsis for for Killian for us to emphasize with. More backstory was needed, not "I was rejected by a drunk and horny Stark when I tried to approach him at the most inopportune time."

Loki didn't really have much of a "why" in Avengers though.

He wanted to rule people, just because.

We had a whole movie of the why in Thor, and there were scenes in the Avengers where Loki had shown that spiting his brother was a huge reason for Loki to take Earth, in addition what he had seen after the end of Thor and before Avengers. Not to mention taking over the world is often a simple and easier motivation to pull off also.

 

[Schlosser85]

Yea Loki was a very three-dimensional "villain" (if he could even completely be called that) in Thor.

 

[DarkSovereignty]

Loki had that whole old world, divine right to rule thing going on. He was raised as a prince and felt himself superior to his heir apparent brother. That's his motivation.

 

[Batmannerism]

Dudes,

just scanning this thread I feel very pleased that I managed to avoid a lot of the movies mentioned (didn't see the Host, After Earth, Grown Ups 2, RIPD yayyy, and only saw Die Hard 5 on DVD).

ON the Guy Pearce thing. Totally not his fault. Pearce is great in villainous roles (check out Count of Monte Cristo and Lawless), just wasn't given much to work with in IM3.

If I had to nominate someone, it would be Bruce Willis, just because he's been phoning in performances for the last few years. Here's a guy who can actually act, but in his last 3 or 4 films has played exactly the same character. Maybe he can win the
"Actor in greatest decline" award.

"Least Character development" could go to Hugh Jackman as Wolverine. Although like Pearce, that's a writing issue, not performance.

I thought Charlie Hunnam was okay in PR, a film that was never going to be about performances (other than that of the giant robots and monsters). He was passable, and mildly likeable as a generic action film hero. Besides, he had to compete with Idris Elba for most of his time on screen, and that's a tall order for anyone .

cheers.

 

[Mrs. Sawyer]

Because of computer problems, all the categories will go until this Friday at 3PM and I will tally up all votes during this weekend, and polls will be up Monday at 1PM.