10 Reasons Why You Should Eat Less Meat:

[Schlosser85]

I had 75% of a hamburger for breakfast today. The other 25% went to one of my mom's dogs when it fell off my cheap, unstable foam plate onto the floor as I was getting up from the table.

 

[ThePowerCosmic]

Let me think about that...

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Nah, meat GOOD.

 

[Duke]

Sue me. I'm a carnivore.

 

[Zanham]

If we didn't eat them you can be sure a few of them would be dining on humans more regularly.

There's nothing wrong with eating meat.
There's nothing wrong with eating vegetation.
There's nothing wrong with eating sweets.
There's nothing wrong with eating junk foods.

THERE IS something wrong with clinging to any one of those or other eating beliefs. Clinging, that's sickness, that's weakness.

 

[Thebumwhowalks]

If we didn't eat them you can be sure a few of them would be dining on humans more regularly.

There's nothing wrong with eating meat.
There's nothing wrong with eating vegetation.
There's nothing wrong with eating sweets.
There's nothing wrong with eating junk foods.

THERE IS something wrong with clinging to any one of those or other eating beliefs. Clinging, that's sickness, that's weakness.

Please explain why there is something wrong with being a vegeterian, I would love to hear your argument on that.

edit: you're off to a great start with that argument at the beginning of your post, , aye, thank god for hamburgers, there are far less cases of people being chased down the street and eaten by cattle.

 

[Colossal Spoons]

Please explain why there is something wrong with being a vegeterian

The snooty superiority complex that often* comes with it.


*Emphasis on the word often, there are loads of normal vegetarians

 

[Thebumwhowalks]

The snooty superiority complex that often* comes with it.


*Emphasis on the word often, there are loads of normal vegetarians

Well, such a person would be like that anyway, the vegeterian aspect of their lifestyle doesn't actually cause that type of personality trait.

edit: and I yet to encounter a vegeterian with such an attitude, although I have of course heard such types of veggies being spoken of.

 

[Mandalore464]

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[Thebumwhowalks]

Even if it WERE true (and it isn't) that being vegetarian means you're healthier than your meat-loving neighbour, eating meat is one of the things that's looked into as a probable reason why we've become humans.

We used to be stupid monkeys feeding off insects and fruitsd, then came fire and thus the ability to consume more meat safely, which in turn made our brains grow bigger and our bodies stronger. Therefore, meat is the best thing that ever happened (or fire, depending on how you look at it) to us as a species.

And why on Earth would you refrain from eating such wonderful delicacies? A doctor could come up with evidence that eating a pound of meat would kill me instantly and I still would have it. At least I'd die happy, which is hardly a given in this world. Especially if you're a veggie.

Plus, you probably own a cell phone anyway, and thus will die of brain cancer before meat even had a chance to take aim at your cells. Like the rest of us.

Meat is unhealthier than vegetables, red meat in particular is bad for your heart, and I hear it raises your cholesterol, whoch of course can lead to high blood presssure.
It's not as good for your internal processing either, your liver has a much more difficult job processing meat.
I am practically a vegeterian now, I only eat meat occasionally. I was 100% vegeterian a couple of years ago, and when I went back to eating meat, I ate it regularly, and I felt the difference eventually. After eating regular meat based meals, you don't feel as good, your body is burning up much more, processing the meat, more strain on your liver.
Whereas after a vegeterian meal, it's like bubbles going through your system by comparison.
A lot of people who eat meat regularly probably don't know the difference, because they have never went full vegeterian.

and the beginnings of mankind...fine, but that's not relevant to this discussion here, fossil fuels were relevant to civilisation getting going, but they are not gonna last forever.

and i don't own a cell phone, haha.

 

[Mandalore464]

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[Schlosser85]

Considering pretty much the only vegetables I like are corn and lettuce, I don't think I'd last very long as a vegetarian.

I like me some meat.

 

[Speedball]

Mandalore64, just give up. You'll end up going in circles with him.

 

[El Payaso]

Hello, I'm El Payaso, pleased to MEAT you.

 

[Thebumwhowalks]

Even if it's true, it's only true for a certain type of population, who eat meat in certain amounts, over certain periods of time, etc etc.

My point is we're all different, like Anita18 already said. I know of chain smokers who died well into their 80s, having started smoking at age 16. Did it kill them? No. Did it kill their wife who never smoked a single cigarette in her life and still died of lung cancer? Yes.

We're not equals. We're only equals when it comes to political correctness, but no we're really not.

Another example : I pride myself on being a huge meat-eater. Actually I'm a huge eater period. Never cared about what I ate, I go through meals twice as big as the next guy, in half the time (cause I also eat super fast). The last time I went to see my doctor, she looked at my file and told me we hadn't seen each other in 6 years, and it was only because I wanted to do some blood test, out of curiosity. Then she ran those tests, and when the results came, they were outstanding. I could have gone probably another couple of years, or maybe 10 (who knows?) without going to my doctor.

That doesn't mean I'm not gonna get ran over by a 10-wheeler on my way home tonight. But I like to indulge in every possible pleasure while I'm here, and I wish everyone would do the same (if being a vegetarian or semi-vegetarian makes you happy, then I'm very happy for you. If it's something that you do because you read somewhere that meat was bad for your health, I pity you).

Now like I said (but I see you quoted my post pre-edit) my post contained humour and was certainly not to be taken seriously.

But let's face it, even if meat's not that good (and like others have said before, there's no evidence, just symptoms that were observed on certain people, with a certain way of life, etc etc, for all you know, we may hear tomorrow that fast food is actually good for your health cause scientists change opinion every fews years about everything) it still is a pleasure that's 100 times less dangerous than thousand of other activities we indulge in every day.

Am I criticizing veggies? Certainly not. What happens in your backgarden is your business and yours only. But no one will ever convince me that meat is a danger that should be avoided. It is my pleasure, and if it does kill me someday, well, whatever.

Aye, that is a fair point about cirucumstaces being different for different people, body size and weight, as well as your speed of metabolism all playing a factor in how you process certain foods.

But, in regards to what you were saying about smoking, I wasn't talking about meat killing you faster, i was talking about how eating meat regularly would most likely put your health into a lower bracket than it would be if you only ate vegetables and fruit.

Same as with smoking, I mean, moreso for sure, no matter how healthy the rest of your lifestyle is, smoking is gonna have an adverse effect, you will be shorter of breath than you would be if you didn't smoke, your stamina would be less powerful if you smoked regularly, you might live to be 100, but you wouldn't be able to run as fast or for as long during the course of those years.

Sure, you might hit the deathbed at the exact same time as you would've if you had not eaten meat, or smoked, but i dare say that your internal organs would be of the more comfortable variety during the course of your life.

edit: and as for your doctor visit, the doc may have given you a reading confriming that you felt like a million bucks, but if you followed a vegeterian lifestyle, you would probably feel like a couple of million bucks, haha, as your liver would not be as pressed to burning through processing the meat. But, as you only ever eat meat, you will never know that difference. I do, as I have followed both lifestyles.

 

[Manic]

I understand that vegetarians have their reasons for refusing to eat meat, and I can respect that. However, if your goal is to convince me to stop eating meat, I have only one counter-argument:

 

[Speedball]

 

[Anita18]

Every body is different. I can't actually do a raw vegan diet (which some people swear by) because I have a sensitive stomach and it cramps for hours when I have a raw vegan meal. So it's not very good for me personally, but again, some people swear by it.

Try different diets with varying balances if meat and veggies and see how you feel. That's really the only way to know.

 

[Thebumwhowalks]

Every body is different. I can't actually do a raw vegan diet (which some people swear by) because I have a sensitive stomach and it cramps for hours when I have a raw vegan meal. So it's not very good for me personally, but again, some people swear by it.

Try different diets with varying balances if meat and veggies and see how you feel. That's really the only way to know.

Yeah, a 'raw veggie' diet sounds like an extreme diet, so of course it is not going to be for everyone. but every human being should be able to eat cooked vegetables and fresh fruit without any adverse effects.

 

[Asteroid-Man]

Well, such a person would be like that anyway, the vegeterian aspect of their lifestyle doesn't actually cause that type of personality trait.

edit: and I yet to encounter a vegeterian with such an attitude, although I have of course heard such types of veggies being spoken of.

I'm not the only seeing the irony here, am I?

 

[Thebumwhowalks]

I'm not the only seeing the irony here, am I?

Nope, i'm not saying that it makes me superior to eat veggie, and i'm not saying that it's even a superior way of living...hell, some people think that drinking and drugging it up all the time is a better way of life than that, we all have our own opnions on what is the best way to be happy in life, and that is not even what I was talking about!
...all I was saying is that, in my experience, you feel healthier eating cooked vegetables, because your body processes them easier, so it is less taxing on your system.

 

[Asteroid-Man]

Nope, i'm not saying that it makes me superior to eat veggie, and i'm not saying that it's even a superior way of living...hell, some people think that drinking and drugging it up all the time is a better way of life than that, we all have our own opnions on what is the best way to be happy in life, and that is not even what I was talking about!
...all I was saying is that, in my experience, you feel healthier eating cooked vegetables, because your body processes them easier, so it is less taxing on your system.

I'm glad you proved yourself a good person to me. That's exactly what I was asking for.

 

[Thebumwhowalks]

I'm glad you proved yourself a good person to me. That's exactly what I was asking for.

You're one of those guys that eat paper arn't you? I don't know if it is something that is in the paper(I didn't read it anyway), but you always end up saying and doing the exact opposite of everyone else.
That happened to me when I tried eating paper, I kept getting mixed up and was wiping my bum with what I was supposed to be wiping away from my bum in the first place. I was in there for quite a while.

 

[Asteroid-Man]

You're one of those guys that eat paper arn't you? I don't know if it is something that is in the paper(I didn't read it anyway), but you always end up saying and doing the exact opposite of everyone else.
That happened to me when I tried eating paper, I kept getting mixed up and was wiping my bum with what I was supposed to be wiping away from my bum in the first place. I was in there for quite a while.

 

[Thebumwhowalks]

haha, eh, it was just funny to me that you said something that was the opposite of what I usually hear around here, so I wanted to express that and try to improvise a little humour out of that.
and...you were pretty decent to me a couple of months ago when I typed up something in your poetry thread, so I believe you when you say this.
Because, there are some attitudes to me that have very recently been toned down, or 'adusted', due to the new influx of viewers to the site.

 

[El Payaso]

I understand that vegetarians have their reasons for refusing to eat meat, and I can respect that. However, if your goal is to convince me to stop eating meat, I have only one counter-argument:

One of the very best (maybe the best) barbequew I have ever tasted was made by a friend of mine. When I asked her her secret, she told me 'I'm a vegetarian.' WTF, I said, how could you do such excellent barbeque and be a vegetarian. She told me she learnt and didn't make many people's mistake of overcooking or try to make it faster than it should.