2014 Global Ebola Outbreak

[bullets]

They say it's hard to catch Ebola , but we've never had it so close to our doorstep before. I hope we don't underestimate this.

 

[Marvolo]

The CDC reports over one million people could be infected with ebola in four months.

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/09/2...in-4-months-cdc-estimates.html?referrer=&_r=0

Um, how do we stop this thing?

We can't even contain it with "only" a few thousand victims.

The only way to stop it is to adapt and enforce strict hygiene which will take time which means this thing is going to kill a LOT of people before this is over with. But now that its here in the US and in Europe its always going to be a part of life. We arent likely to rid the world of Ebola any time soon. Schools definitely need to be stricter about kids and them spreading their bodily fluids. They are all snotty nosed, drool, and spit and are just generally messy so if this was to get in a school it could kill a lot of children. We cant allow that. People will need to be more hygenic. And people who use the bathroom and dont wash their hands afterwards need to be ostracized!

Air travel in and out of the country needs to be strictly controlled. And all air travel from West Africa has to stop immediately. Honestly, it probably wouldnt be a bad idea to shut down all borders until this is under control.

Oh, and all people who die from the disease should be immediately cremated without embalming them. Throw them in a biohazard bag and into the crematory. Its disrespectful and its not fair to the family, but its better they be mad than more people die.

Second Possible Ebola Case Reported In Texas

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/5954454?utm_hp_ref=tw

For something thats supposed to be so hard to catch its spreading just fine.

 

[Red Mask]

Duncan finally succumbed to the disease. It's sad, but it was inevitable.

 

[Anita18]

But isn't ebola more contagious than HIV?

It is, but it also kills MUCH more quickly so it's less likely to spread without people noticing. You have to be symptomatic to be contagious with Ebola, whereas AIDS (the active disease state of HIV) may not show up for years. You could spread HIV to multiple people without knowing you have it yourself.

For something thats supposed to be so hard to catch its spreading just fine.

This new patient under observation walked through the apartment where the man dying of Ebola had been sweating, puking, and pooping. In regular clothes. He was an idiot.

There were articles describing how the Ebola patient had been sweating through bedsheets. Sweat is a bodily fluid, and people touch sweat much more readily than diarrhea or vomit (or vomit splatter). Maybe he handled the used bedsheets and then ate his lunch without washing his hands.

It is VERY difficult to spread Ebola unless you're in direct contact with those bodily fluids.

 

[IncognitoWalrus]

The only way to stop it is to adapt and enforce strict hygiene which will take time which means this thing is going to kill a LOT of people before this is over with. But now that its here in the US and in Europe its always going to be a part of life. We arent likely to rid the world of Ebola any time soon. Schools definitely need to be stricter about kids and them spreading their bodily fluids. They are all snotty nosed, drool, and spit and are just generally messy so if this was to get in a school it could kill a lot of children. We cant allow that. People will need to be more hygenic. And people who use the bathroom and dont wash their hands afterwards need to be ostracized!

Air travel in and out of the country needs to be strictly controlled. And all air travel from West Africa has to stop immediately. Honestly, it probably wouldnt be a bad idea to shut down all borders until this is under control.

Oh, and all people who die from the disease should be immediately cremated without embalming them. Throw them in a biohazard bag and into the crematory. Its disrespectful and its not fair to the family, but its better they be mad than more people die.

For something thats supposed to be so hard to catch its spreading just fine.

Exactly.

We have to educate people about what exactly is going to happen to them if they aren't sanitary. Scare them straight!

 

[Thundercrack85]

The ironic thing is that ebola might just save a lot of lives because hospital staffs are finally starting to follow basic protocols. Really, only to save themselves, but inadvertently they're saving a lot of people.

1.7 million Americans get infections in hospitals every year, and more than 99,000 die from them.

 

[Marvolo]

It is, but it also kills MUCH more quickly so it's less likely to spread without people noticing. You have to be symptomatic to be contagious with Ebola, whereas AIDS (the active disease state of HIV) may not show up for years. You could spread HIV to multiple people without knowing you have it yourself.


This new patient under observation walked through the apartment where the man dying of Ebola had been sweating, puking, and pooping. In regular clothes. He was an idiot.

There were articles describing how the Ebola patient had been sweating through bedsheets. Sweat is a bodily fluid, and people touch sweat much more readily than diarrhea or vomit (or vomit splatter). Maybe he handled the used bedsheets and then ate his lunch without washing his hands.

It is VERY difficult to spread Ebola unless you're in direct contact with those bodily fluids.

But think about how often people sweat. People sweat and get it on public seats, tables, counters, the floor, door handles, on a busy street or a crowded store you could rub up against someone. This is my point, just because ebola only spreads through fluids doesnt mean only fools can catch it. Humans excrete fluids 24/7. We release spittle when we talk, cough, and sneeze, our noses drip when its extemely cold and when we eat spicy food, we sweat, we wipe our foreheads and then touch stuff, we get our sweat all over the place. And we touch our faces without realizing it multiple times every hour. We kiss and rub up against and exhange bodily fluids with our mates. We hug and shake hands... a lot. Do you wash your hands every time you shake hands? And think of the morons who dont wash their hands after using the bathroom, because in their mind unless they get piss or feces directly on their hands they are clean.

Its very easy to get someones fluids on you and it happens more than any of us probably realize.

On a side note, I wonder if sweat is one of the reasons it runs rampant in Africa? Its a blistering hot environment and people there must sweat a lot. You add on the lack of hygiene and water and soap and youve got the perfect environment to spread Ebola.

 

[Anita18]

The ironic thing is that ebola might just save a lot of lives because hospital staffs are finally starting to follow basic protocols. Really, only to save themselves, but inadvertently they're saving a lot of people.

1.7 million Americans get infections in hospitals every year, and more than 99,000 die from them.

One hopes. Sooo many more medical errors kill people than terrorist attacks, but nobody tracks it.

But think about how often people sweat. People sweat and get it on public seats, tables, counters, the floor, door handles, on a busy street or a crowded store you could rub up against someone. This is my point, just because ebola only spreads through fluids doesnt mean only fools can catch it. Humans excrete fluids 24/7. We release spittle when we talk, cough, and sneeze, our noses drip when its extemely cold and when we eat spicy food, we sweat, we wipe our foreheads and then touch stuff, we get our sweat all over the place. And we touch our faces without realizing it multiple times every hour. We kiss and rub up against and exhange bodily fluids with our mates. We hug and shake hands... a lot. Do you wash your hands every time you shake hands? And think of the morons who dont wash their hands after using the bathroom, because in their mind unless they get piss or feces directly on their hands they are clean.

Its very easy to get someones fluids on you and it happens more than any of us probably realize.

On a side note, I wonder if sweat is one of the reasons it runs rampant in Africa? Its a blistering hot environment and people there must sweat a lot. You add on the lack of hygiene and water and soap and youve got the perfect environment to spread Ebola.

Sweat contains a fairly low viral load compared to blood, vomit, and feces. The guy in Dallas was literally soaking in those sheets, it isn't like shaking someone's hand, ALTHOUGH that is a possible way to get it. Not very probable, though. Just like babies with HIV-positive mothers sometimes get it, and sometimes don't.

Remember, severely ill and contagious Ebola patients also have uncontrollable vomiting and diarrhea, and it's often bloody. Combine that with the relative lack of hygiene in isolated African villages (AND the fact many of their funeral rites involved touching still-contagious bodies), and that part's the disaster.

 

[Marvolo]

One hopes. Sooo many more medical errors kill people than terrorist attacks, but nobody tracks it.


Sweat contains a fairly low viral load compared to blood, vomit, and feces. The guy in Dallas was literally soaking in those sheets, it isn't like shaking someone's hand, ALTHOUGH that is a possible way to get it. Not very probable, though. Just like babies with HIV-positive mothers sometimes get it, and sometimes don't.

Remember, severely ill and contagious Ebola patients also have uncontrollable vomiting and diarrhea, and it's often bloody. Combine that with the relative lack of hygiene in isolated African villages (AND the fact many of their funeral rites involved touching still-contagious bodies), and that part's the disaster.

I cant imagine how painful that vomiting and diarrhea must be. Your body is already getting its ass whooped and on top of that your retching and cramping uncontrollably.

The family of the guy in Texas said they looked at him once on a computer monitor and it was the worst thing theyd ever seen. Like it was something from a nightmare and that they couldnt look at him again. If he looked that bad imagine how he must have felt and then think about the people in Africa who have no pain meds or advanced medical care. I really cant even imagine.

Its times like these that I wish America would allow the terminally ill to choose assisted suicide. No one should have to go through this, and if a patient is beyond hope then its best to just help them move on as quickly and painlessly as possible.

 

[Mike_D202]

A few years ago I used our break room's computer at work, right after I got pink eye.

Don't underestimate the uncleanliness of people.

 

[Pink Ranger]

A few years ago I used our break room's computer at work, right after I got pink eye.

Don't underestimate the uncleanliness of people.

* quietly backs out of the room, whistling to myself *

 

[Breogan]

Sad but LOL! An Ebola related petition at international website change.org which garnered the most support, is one related to save a potentially infected dog, not anything relating to humans.

It is a petition to save Excalibur, the pet dog of Teresa Romero, the Spanish nurse who cared for the dying priest coming back from Liberia.

I get it animals are innocent, no one wants to see them suffer. But really, more than humans? And who is going to take care of it, put on the hazmat suit to play with it?, Clean up after it's poo and pee? Where to dispose of it? Wash/bathe it, or the cage or area it's penned in, then risk going home to their family every day.
Just to keep it alive longer so they(the petintion signers) don't have to be sad thinking about a dog for a day.
They are accusing them of being cruel and uncaring, yet who do they want to do take care of it? A human they could car less about.
And then if that person got sick , they'd be like oh that was dumb.
I get it's sad, Are they hoping it gets the already insanely expensive, scarce drugs? The risky and costly man hr. care and treatment? A blood transfusion? Just what are they delusionally petitioning to keep it for, and at what cost?

The over 300,000 people who signed that petition are clueless careless morons who can't think beyond their completely selfish emotions!

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Edit: Dogs been put down, LOL @ my rant, but damn over 300,000 people who signed are dumb selfish aholes.

 

[ShadowBoxer]

Ebola the beginning of the real world Zombie Apocalypse??!!!

 

[Enriquespy]

Sad but LOL! An Ebola related petition at international website change.org which garnered the most support, is one related to save a potentially infected dog, not anything relating to humans.

It is a petition to save Excalibur, the pet dog of Teresa Romero, the Spanish nurse who cared for the dying priest coming back from Liberia.

In all fairnes they complained because as far as we know dogs cannot infect someone of ebola.

They killed the dog "Just in case" instead of even trying to quarantine him.

It is not the worst thing ever, but it is still kind of sad.

 

[Breogan]

In all fairnes they complained because as far as we know dogs cannot infect someone of ebola.

They killed the dog "Just in case" instead of even trying to quarantine him.

And whose life would you "just in case" put in charge of caring for and maintaining that dog.
Their own? NO!

They killed the dog "Just in case" instead of even trying to quarantine him.

This attitude of putting the dog first over the person who would have to care for it makes me sick.
And it's not even about the dog, it's about their little feelings being hurt while thinking about the dog.
That's what they are petitioning for - to not have hurt feelings -
When the actual people who have to really deal with it they couldn't care less about.
They'd probably be the first to walk away form the dog if they thought it had ebola, and probably walk over the humans who got sick caring for it.
But signing a petition absolves them of cruelty, they can pat themselves for their self-righteous act for a dog. over actual people who actually have to deal with the act of putting a dog down, and actually might get the disease.

Selfish, self-righteous aholes, all 300,000 who signed that petition to protect the dog [their feelings for a dog] over real humans.

Rant!

 

[Enriquespy]

Yeah, rant...

 

[Breogan]

Yeah, rant...

You signed it?
Would you risk your life to test it? Clean it's poo and pee? After playing with/caressing it, go play with your family?
Did you step up volunteer to?

 

[Enriquespy]

I liked a facebook page!!! that makes everything ok!

 

[Bim]

This was all over our paper today. Talk about a horrible joke: http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/en...on-flight-to-dominican-republic-causes-havoc/

Forget bombs: Joke about Ebola on flight to the Dominican Republic causes havoc

A joke by an American passenger traveling to the Dominican Republic caused panic among passengers and the airplane crew and caused authorities to isolate the plane for more than an hour on the tarmac.

An unidentified passenger traveling from Philadelphia to Punta Cana yelled out, “I’ve been to Africa!,” just before US Airways flight 845 landed on the Caribbean island, an airport official told Fox News Latino.

Initial reports by the Dominican press and on social media said the passenger had yelled, "I have Ebola!"

The shout caused major concern and panic among passengers and crew because of the ongoing Ebola outbreak in West Africa that has claimed nearly 4,000 lives.

Once the plane landed at Punta Cana International Airport, precautions were taken quickly to ensure the safety of the travelers.

Emergency personnel wearing blue hazmat suits boarded the plane and the passenger was taken to the airport’s medical center for tests.

The passenger, who officials have only identified as a man from North America, was reportedly coughing during the flight. Medics verified that the passenger did not have a fever – a key early symptom of Ebola.

While airport officials would not identify the passenger, a video taken from the plane and posted online shows emergency personnel escorting an African-American man off the flight as the rest of the plane watches.

In the video, he is heard saying, “I ain’t from Africa.”

Reports from local press said the man appeared to be “unbalanced,” although officials would not elaborate on what that meant.

Paola Rainieri, vice president of marketing and communications for Grupo Punta Cana, which owns the airport, told FNL that the airplane was held on the tarmac for nearly two hours until medical and airline officials determined there was no risk to the 200-plus passengers.

Reached for comment, a US Airways representative confirmed the incident, saying in a statement that the flight was cleared by local authorities.

"We apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused, but the safety of our customers and crews is our main priority," the statement said.

Rainieri described the incident as a “joke of poor taste” by the passenger, who had not traveled to Africa recently. According to Rainieri, the man's passport showed that the last trip he had taken anywhere close to Africa was a 2012 trip to Europe.

“We don’t know why he did it, but he thought it would be a cute joke that would not be so serious,” she said. “Thankfully it was only a scare.”

Rainieri said that while the incident did not end up as being serious as it might have been, airport officials took all precautions. She said they have medic teams on hand for such situations, and this incident proved to them that they are prepared.

She added that several days ago, with the increased threat of Ebola spreading internationally, airport and immigration officials added precautionary steps for travelers – including a questionnaire asking if they have traveled to Africa recently, and if they have any of the symptoms of the disease.

“We have to be responsible,” Rainieri said. “As an airport, we are ready for anything.”

She said the passenger had filled out the questionnaire and noted that he had not been to Africa lately.

“Incidents like these affect the country, it affects people on the island,” Rainieri said when asked about the event's potential affect on tourism. “It scares passengers and would make them not travel to the Dominican Republic.”

Arturo Villanueva, vice president of the Hotel and Tourism Association of the Dominican Republic (ASONAHORES), agreed with Rainieri.

“We have to think about the country and about the population,” he told FNL. “Ebola has become an international problem. That someone has made a joke of this is inexcusable."

He said steps need to be taken so incidents like these don’t happen again.

“We will demand to the appropriate authorities the immediate deportation of this passenger to his home country,” Villanueva said.

There have been no reported cases of Ebola in the Dominican Republic or elsewhere in the Caribbean and the rest of Latin America.

 

[Breogan]

This was all over our paper today. Talk about a horrible joke: http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/en...on-flight-to-dominican-republic-causes-havoc/

Allot of hospitals and airports are being tested and scrutinized for preparedness.
Some have even hired actors to pretend they have Ebola to test how ready they are-.http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/oct/09/us-expand-ebola-precautions-dallas-patient-death
Jobs are on the line. (never-mind lives)
And they are freaking jumpy to get it right. No joke

LOL @ 7:30 - "I a'int from Africa, sh***t!"
[YT]LJhWVsx1U8c[/YT]

 

[Marvolo]

Laguardia Airport employees who clean the planes have went on strike refusing to clean possibly contaminated planes. And polls show that almost 60% of Americans want flights from West Africa stopped.

 

[KevanG]

They thought they had someone with it in a local hospital but turned out to be negative.

 

[Marvolo]

They thought they had someone with it in a local hospital but turned out to be negative.

Thats good to hear.

 

[Marvolo]

Interesting fact: people who contract ebola and survive cant contract that Ebola strain again.

This is a very good thing. Means one day we may be able to make a vaccine to immunize people against the virus.

 

[KevanG]

Another Interesting Fact: Everyone else who contracts Ebola never contract it again either.